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22 minutes ago, msc said:

 

Just to note that article says the (until recently current) Lord Ogmore has died recently. As he isn't as fame seeking as most of his family, this went completely by this forum and seemingly twitter too.

 

Also I didn't know Aitken is stepfather to Jared Harris off Mad Men.

It's a small world! One of my friends was cruised by Freddie Mercury in a London gay club in the early 1980s, my aunt once chatted with Judy Finnigan and hubby Richard Madeley on a beach in Truro around 2005(Judy was very tongue in cheek with her humour and sarcasm and definitely kept putting Richard back in his box when he tried to dominate the conversation!) and  a relative  used  to work with Wayne Rooneys Mum Jeanette. A woman who liked to tell very dirty foul mouthed jokes on her tea break!:D

Sorry just wanted to illustrate what a small world it is and outclass Aitken with my web of connections!

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On 24/05/2020 at 14:15, Miracle Aligner said:

This may have already been mentioned here but we now have a few more dead parliaments.

 

Following the death of James Ramsden on 29 March 2020 the initial parliament of 1951-1955 is dead as the sole survivor of the entire parliament. John Eden (born 1925), was not elected until a by-election 1954. Not including Eden, Robert Lindsay (b.1927) and Tom Mitchell* (b.1931) are the only survivors of the 1955-59 parliaments although Tom Mitchell was an Irish nat whose elections were overturned.

 

The 1935,1945 and 1950-1951 parliaments are all entirely dead. 

And John Eden just died a few days ago too so the 51-55 Parliament really is totally dead now ! 

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Michel Gauthier, a former Canadian MP and Quebec MNA who served a short-term as interim leader of the Bloc Quebecois party, has died. He was 70.

 

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2020/05/30/deces-de-michel-gauthier-1

(French language obit, awaiting an English one)

 

Edit:  https://montrealgazette.com/news/quebec/former-bloc-quebecois-leader-michel-gauthier-dies-at-70

 

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Some State Leader older than 94 must have died, since Queen Elizabeth is now the 22nd oldest, she was only 23 a few days ago.

Edit: It was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abderrahmane_Youssoufi must have missed it on Friday.

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1 minute ago, YoungWillz said:

Obit for Christopher Brocklebank-Fowler, former Tory MP for Norfolk North West who defected to the SDP: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2020/06/02/christopher-brocklebank-fowler-conservative-mp-crossed-floor/

 

Ah, there we go! Thanks for looking out for this. Sods law all the ex-MPs not on the DDP are the ones going!

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On 01/06/2020 at 21:25, roaming_comrade said:

Some State Leader older than 94 must have died, since Queen Elizabeth is now the 22nd oldest, she was only 23 a few days ago.

Edit: It was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abderrahmane_Youssoufi must have missed it on Friday.

In this case someone had died but sometimes they just remove people from the list for no apparant reason even though they are still alive.

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On 13/06/2017 at 22:34, YoungWillz said:

As it is Ronald Atkins' 101 birthday, I thought I'd update Deathray's list from a few years ago (in bitesize chunks). I've not checked the constituency or dates so any errors remain Deathray's but I have made minor amendments to names and ages.

 

Part One:

90+

Ronald Atkins, 103 (13 June 1916), Labour (Preston North 1966-70, Preston North 1974-79)

Patrick Duffy, 99 (17 June 1920), Labour (Colne Valley 1963-66, Sheffield Attercliffe 1970-92)

Michael Shaw, 99 (9 October 1920), Conservative (Brighouse and Spen 1960-64, Scarborough and Whitby 1966-74, Scarborough 1974-92)

Jack Dunnet, 97 (24 June 1922-6 October 2019), Labour (Nottingham Central 1964-74, Nottingham East 1974-83)

Jill Knight, 96 (9 Jul 1923), Conservative (Birmingham Edgbaston 1966-1997)

Robert Sheldon, 96 (13 Sep 1923-2 February 2020), Labour (Ashton under Lyne 1964-2001)

James Ramsden, 96 (1 Nov 1923-29 March 2020), Conservative (Harrogate 1954-74)

William Howie, 94 (2 Mar 1924-26 May 2018), Labour (Luton 1963-70)

Reginald Eyre, 94 (28 May 1924-27 January 2019), Conservative (Birmingham Hall Green 1965-87)

Edward du Cann 93 (28 May 1924-31 August 2017), Conservative (Taunton 1956-87)

Eric Cockeram, 95 (4 July 1924), Conservative (Bebington 1970-74, Ludlow 1979-87)

Mary Holt, 95 (31 July 1924), Conservative (Preston North 1970-74)

Edward Graham, 94 (26 Mar 1925-21 Mar 2020), Labour (Edmonton 1974-83)

Ben Ford, 95 (1 Apr 1925), Labour (Bradford North 1964-83)

David Myles, 93 (30 May 1925-16 December 2018), Conservative (Banffshire 1979-83)

David Lambie, 94 (13 July 1925-15 December 2019), Labour (Central Ayrshire 1970-83, Cunninghame South 1983-92)

John Eden, 94 (15 Sep 1925-23 May 2020), Conservative (Bournemouth West 1954-83)

Michael McGuire, 92 (3 May 1926-16 August 2018), Labour (Ince 1964-83, Makerfield 1983-87)

David Stoddart, 94 (4 May 1926), Labour (Swindon 1970-83)

Kenneth Warren, 92 (15 Aug 1926-29 June 2019), Conservative (Hastings 1970-83, Hastings and Rye 1983-92)

Ernest Davies, 93 (25 Oct 1926-8 March 2020), Labour (Stretford 1966-70)

James Davidson, 90 (12 Jan 1927-29 June 2017), Liberal (Aberdeenshire West 1966-70)

Jim Callaghan, 91 (28 Jan 1927-29 March 2018), Labour (Middleton and Prestwich 1974-83, Heywood Middleton 1983-97)

Robert Lindsay, 93 (5 Mar 1927), Conservative (Hertford 1955-74, Welwyn and Hatfield 1974-74)

Richard Body, 90 (17 May 1927-26 February 2018), Conservative (Billericay 1955-1959, Holland with Boston 1966-1997, Boston and Skegness 1997-2001)

Hugh Rossi, 92 (21 June 1927-14 April 2020), Conservative (Hornsey 1966-83, Hornsey and Wood Green 1983-92)

Ken Eastham, 92 (11 Aug 1927), Labour (Manchester Blackley 1979-97)

John Lee, 92 (13 Aug 1927-14 April 2020), Labour (Reading 1966-70, Birmingham Handsworth 1974-79)

Terrence Higgins, 92 (18 Jan 1928), Conservative (Worthing 1964-97)

Sally Oppenheim 91 (26 July 1928), Conservative (Gloucester 1970-87)

Robert Howarth, 91 (31 July 1928), Labour (Bolton East 1964-70)

Maureen Colquhoun, 91 (12 Aug 1928), Labour (Northampton North 1974-79)

Peter Jackson, 91 (14 Oct 1928-23 March 2020), Labour (High Peak 1966-70)

Dick Taverne, 91 (18 Oct 1928), Labour, then Independent Democratic Labour (Lincoln 1962-74)

William Rodgers, 91 (28 Oct 1928), Labour then Social Democratic (Stockton-on-Tees 1962-83)

Dennis Walters, 91 (28 Nov 1928), Conservative (Westbury 1964-92)

Stanley Clinton-Davis, 91 (6 December 1928), Labour (Hackney Central 1970-83)

Bill O'Brien, 91 (25 Jan 1929), Labour (Normanton 1983-2005)

Ronald Thomas, 91 (16 Mar 1929), Labour (Bristol North West 1974-79)

Lawrence Cunliffe, 91 (29 Mar 1929), Labour (Leigh 1979-2001)

Peter Horden, 91 (18 Apr 1929), Conservative (Horsham 1964-74, Horsham and Crawley 1974-83, Horsham 1983-97)

Patrick McNair-Wilson, 91 (28 May 1929), Conservative (Lewisham West 1964-66, New Forest 1968-97)

Winnie Ewing, 90 (10 July 1929), SNP (Hamilton 1967-70, Moray and Nairn 1974-79)

John Hannam, 90 (2 Aug 1929), Conservative (Exeter 1970-97)

Roy Roebuck, 90 (25 Sep 1929), Labour (Harrow East 1966-70)

Betty Boothroyd, 90 (8 Oct 1929), Speaker (prev Labour) (West Bromwich 1973-74, West Bromwich West 1974-2000)

Edwin Brooks, 90 (1 Dec 1929), Labour (Bebington 1966-70)

Roger Sims, 90 (27 Jan 1930), Conservative (Chislehurst 1974-97)

Stan Newens, 90 (4 Feb 1930), Labour (Epping 1964-70, Harlow 1974-83)

Doug Hoyle, 90 (17 Feb 1930), Labour (Nelson and Cole 1974-79, Warrington 1981-83, Warrington North 1983-97)

Douglas Hurd, 90 (8 Mar 1930), Conservative (Mid Oxfordshire 1974-83, Witney 1983-97)

By my calculation of the 22 oldest living MPs at the start of this year 8 have died which is quite a fast rate

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Christopher Brocklebank-Fowler, the MP for North West Norfolk who in 1981 became the only sitting Conservative MP to defect to the SDP, has died age 86:

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Just now, CoffinLodger said:

Lord Nicolas Rea has died at 91 .He was a hereditary peer who presumably lost his seat.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Rea,_3rd_Baron_Rea

He definitely lost it now

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2 minutes ago, CoffinLodger said:

Lord Nicolas Rea has died at 91 .He was a hereditary peer who presumably lost his seat.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Rea,_3rd_Baron_Rea

 

Ulitzer posted this an hour ago in The Aristocats thread, and he didn't lose his seat in 1999. O for 2.

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I'm still dubious about whether such people should be in here. They are people rewarded or elevated by political patronage, not politicians.

 

Two words - Floella Benjamin. :lol:

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9 minutes ago, YoungWillz said:

I'm still dubious about whether such people should be in here. They are people rewarded or elevated by political patronage, not politicians.

 

Two words - Floella Benjamin. :lol:

 

Playdays thread?

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16 minutes ago, msc said:

 

Ulitzer posted this an hour ago in The Aristocats thread, and he didn't lose his seat in 1999. O for 2.

My bad :unsure:

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1 hour ago, msc said:

 

Ulitzer posted this an hour ago in The Aristocats thread, and he didn't lose his seat in 1999. O for 2.

 

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8 minutes ago, Toast said:

 

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Was waiting for that one!

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On 24/02/2019 at 19:05, CoffinLodger said:

Former Congo PM Antoine Gizenga dead at 93 https://www.bbc.com/afrique/region-47349030

His son and political heir Lugi (????) Gizenga follows him at 54. 

 

Incredible longevity drop from generation to generation. Dilip Kumar wisely chose not to have any children or they would have died as teens.

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On 06/03/2020 at 13:01, drol said:

Anbazhagan dead at 97. Finally.

A few months later, J Anbazhagan dies from Covid at 62. Better watch out  I Anbazhagan and L Anbazhagan 

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18 hours ago, TomTomTelekom said:

Former Prime minister of Gabon Emmanuel Issoze-Nhondet dead at 59 years:

https://www.gabonmediatime.com/gabon-lancien-premier-ministre-issoze-ngondet-est-mort/

That's the 2nd African ;leader to die in his 50s in the last few days.Just shows that for every leader that reaches their 90s like Mugabe they're still far more likely to die young in Africa.

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People often wonder where the line is for politicians getting Qualifying Obits. Well, Sir Frederick Ballantyne, who retire last year due to ill health, died a few months ago without a single qualifying obit of notice.

 

So you can all safely take all "Queen's Governor-Generals of St Vincent and the Grenadines" off your longlists for future reference. I don't know how your 2021 DDP teams will survive this stunning news.

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On 06/03/2020 at 21:01, drol said:

Anbazhagan dead at 97. Finally.

K. Anbazhagan's daughter Manamalli dead. It's a curse!

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