Heef 166 Posted April 22, 2018 As the Birthing Pool didn't seem to go very well, I've thought of another idea. Basically, pick 20 dead 'celebrities' who died pre-1939 (i.e. World War II) and you get a point for every time they get mentioned in relation to a story on the website of a nationwide newspaper in the English language. The story has to be in some way about them as a figure, not about them peripherally (e.g. no bollocks like "what would George Washington make of Donald Trump..." blah blah blah. If the same story is taken up by multiple news sources, you still only get a single point per original news story. Something a bit different, anyway. Anyone who can get a list of 20 historical figures in before the end of April can participate and the final score will be due on 31 December 2018. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Russ 7,255 Posted April 22, 2018 Edit: Misread the rules. Sorry... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,512 Posted April 22, 2018 pre-1939? 1. Charles Dickens 2. Emily Bronte 3. Anne Bronte 4. Charlotte Bronte 5. J. Sheridan le Fanu 6. M.R. James 7. Arthur Conan Doyle 8. Oscar Wilde 9. Thomas Hardy 10. Alfred, Lord Tennyson 11. Wilfred Owen 12. Anthony Trollope 13. Edgar Allan Poe 14. Mary Robinson (actress/poet) 15. Lord Byron 16. Mary Shelley 17. Ambrose Bierce 18. Edward Bulwer-Lytton 19. William Shakespeare 20. Queen Victoria Put Vickie on for a bit of a laugh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 11,037 Posted April 22, 2018 I wonder if that works... Tsar Nicolaj II Romanov Tsarina Alexandra Romanov Grand Duchess Olga Romanov Grand Duchess Tatiana Romanov Grand Duchess Maria Romanov Grand Duchess Anastasia Romanov Crown Prince Alexej Romanov Grand Duke Sergei Mikhailovich Romanov Prince Konstantin Konstantinovich Romanov Prince Ioann Konstantinovich Romanov Prince Igor Konstantinovich Romanov Prince Vladimir Pavlovich Romanov Grand Duke Michael Alexandrovich Romanov Karl Marx Frederick Douglass Tsar Alexander II Emily Bronte Charlotte Bronte Anne Bronte German Emperor Wilhelm II Friedrich Engels Edit: Sorry, I forgot that Wilhelm II died in 1941. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,512 Posted April 22, 2018 17 minutes ago, gcreptile said: Karl Marx Good shout! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handrejka 1,905 Posted April 22, 2018 1. Emmeline Pankhurst 2. P.T Barnum 3. Arthur Conan Doyle 4. Edward Smith (Titanic Captain) 5. Rudolph Valentino 6. J.M Barrie 7.George Stephenson 8.King George V 9.Grigori Rasputin 10.William McKinley 11. George Mallory 12.Wilfred Owen 13. Vincent Van Gogh 14. Jane Austen 15. Alois Alzheimer 16. Fyodor Dostoyevsy 17. Claude Monet 18. Thomas Hardy 19. Leo Tolstoy 20. Lewis Carrol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ImNotHades 207 Posted April 22, 2018 Jean Harlow Rudolph Valentino Roscoe "Fatty" Arbuckle Bessie Smith Cleopatra Julius Caesar Marie Antoinette Louis XVI Louis XIV Charles Darwin Victoria Vincent Van Gogh Leonardo Da Vinci Sigmund Freud Napoleon Bonaparte Marie Curie Harry Houdini Mata Hari Amelia Earhart Jesus Christ You said pre 1939. Pre 1939 it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,209 Posted April 22, 2018 Who's going to track the scoring on this? It's going to be a bit more demanding than just looking for a single QO. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,142 Posted April 22, 2018 01. Kate Cranston 02. George Forrest 03. James Hogg 04. Sir Alexander Mackenzie 05. Allan Ramsay 06. Saint Mungo 07. Catherine Helen Spence 08. Alexander Wilson 09. Allan Pinkerton 10. Carolina Oliphant, Lady Nairne 11. Sir David Wilkie 12. David Hume, Baron Hume of Ninewells 13. John Graham of Claverhouse, 1st Viscount Dundee 14. Cardinal David Beaton 15. John Stewart, 1st Earl of Atholl 16. Edward Balliol 17. Roderick Murchison 18. Reverend John Thomson of Duddingston 19. James Young Simpson 20.Dugald Stewart There you go, 20 famous Scots. But of course, none will get a mention in a national newspaper - they're too busy with Magna Carta, WWII, the 1966 World Cup Final, etc etc etc. Good luck with this though... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heef 166 Posted April 22, 2018 15 minutes ago, Toast said: Who's going to track the scoring on this? It's going to be a bit more demanding than just looking for a single QO. Because of the nature of the beast, I think it will have to rely on the participants posting relevant articles to at least some extent. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFunkyPhantom 53 Posted April 23, 2018 9 hours ago, Toast said: Who's going to track the scoring on this? It's going to be a bit more demanding than just looking for a single QO. That's what I was thinking.Logistically bonkers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handrejka 1,905 Posted April 23, 2018 Just out of curiosity as I've already put my team in, would you have accepted Jack The Ripper? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 11,037 Posted April 27, 2018 The game starts 1st of May? Here's Kate Bush paying tribute to Emily Bronte: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/apr/26/kate-bush-makes-second-tribute-to-emily-bronte-with-art-installation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heef 166 Posted April 29, 2018 On 4/24/2018 at 05:11, Handrejka said: Just out of curiosity as I've already put my team in, would you have accepted Jack The Ripper? Not unless you had definitive proof of his identity Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heef 166 Posted April 30, 2018 I guess I should submit a team for this one. That'd give it a step up from my previous pool-running attempt 1. Benjamin Franklin 2. Thomas Edison 3. Wilfred Owen 4. Emmeline Pankhurst 5. Erich Ludendorff 6. Archduke Franz Ferdinand 7. Tutenkhamun 8. George Washington 9. Alexander the Great 10. King John (the one of Magna Carta fame) 11. Cpt. James Cook 12. Fyodor Dostoevsky 13. Henry VIII 14. Eamon de Valera Not dead enough, for shame. 15. Woodrow Wilson 16. Roland Garros 17. Gustave Flaubert 18. Fritz Haber 19. VI Lenin 20. William Shakespeare. Good luck to all those who venture on these unknown seas and have taken a plunge in the Historically Already Dead Pool. The most dead award so far goes to Tutenkhamun (I think) who's been dead 3,341 years. Most debated will no doubt be Jesus Christ, in order to differentiate between articles about the man and those articles about the religious concept. Ah, what larks await! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death Impends 8,029 Posted April 30, 2018 Bit of a woopsie on the host's end there, Eamon de Valera died in 1975. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heef 166 Posted April 30, 2018 6 hours ago, Death Impends said: Bit of a woopsie on the host's end there, Eamon de Valera died in 1975. Of course he did. Somehow when I read his Wikipedia page, I read that as 1935. I think its time for my new prescription (glasses or drugs, feel free to make your own mind up which). Leaves me down to 19 players then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,752 Posted April 30, 2018 Come very late to the party on this one but as a history teacher I may as well throw my hat into the ring. In no particular order: 1. Amelia Earhart 2. Isambard Kingdom Brunel 3. Queen Victoria 4. Millicent Fawcett 5. Woodrow Wilson 6. Manfred von Richthofen (The Red Baron) 7. Leonardo da Vinci 8. Thomas Edison 9. Wilfred Owen 10. Emily Bronte 11. William Shakespeare 12. Lord Horatio Nelson 13. Mary Shelley 14. Gavrilo Princip 15. Simon Bolivar 16. Emmeline Pankhurst 17. JMW Turner 18. Jane Austen 19. King George V 20. Vladimir Lenin Eclectic mix with no great thought behind it, save a few notables for this year. Whether I'll be around to claim many hits is debatable but you never know... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Russ 7,255 Posted April 30, 2018 1. George Washington 2. John Adams 3. Thomas Jefferson 4. James Madison 5. James Monroe 6. John Quincy Adams 7. Andrew Jackson 8. Martin Van Buren 9. William Henry Harrison 10. John Tyler 11. James K Polk 12. Zachary Taylor 13. Millard Fillmore 14. Franklin Pierce 15. James Buchanan 16. Abraham Lincoln 17. Andrew Johnson 18. Ulysses S Grant 19. Rutherford B Hayes 20. James Garfield Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 11,037 Posted May 1, 2018 Karl Marx' "Das Kapital" as Graphic Novel, does this count? https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/may/01/communist-manifesto-graphic-novel-martin-rowson-marx-filth-fury-gags (Edit: Doubles as a Friedrich Engels mention) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 11,037 Posted May 1, 2018 Actually, let me just start the avalanche: this post will be edited whenever there is an article about Karl Marx in a national newspaper in the english language: May 1st (plus the one in the post above): https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/karl-marx-at-200-what-did-he-get-right-1.3471229 https://socialistworker.co.uk/art/46517/What+to+read+by%2C+and+about%2C+Karl+Marx https://www.hindustantimes.com/videos/world-news/200th-birthday-of-karl-marx-germany-is-split-over-celebrations/video-v8WtGR4hM2fFXFLxqd3hKK.html http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/2144196/karl-marx-200-giant-chinese-statue-has-become-figure (Hong Kong newspaper - does it count?) http://www.newindianexpress.com/world/2018/may/01/karl-marx-at-200-germany-torn-over-revolutionary-philosophers-legacy-1808725.html https://www.nationalheraldindia.com/opinion/on-may-day-karl-marx-unmasked-capitalism-plunder-and-prosperity (also has Friedrich Engels in it) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5677717/Colourful-parades-rallies-place-world-mark-Day.html (Google News says there's Karl Marx in there) May 2nd: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/no-happy-200th-birthday-karl-marx/news-story/ea3258f7a50b5116a365c2091e2fa475 May 3rd: https://www.economist.com/news/books-and-arts/21741531-his-bicentenary-marxs-diagnosis-capitalisms-flaws-surprisingly-relevant-rulers https://www.wsj.com/articles/marxs-apologists-should-be-red-in-the-face-1525388258 http://nationalpost.com/news/world/happy-birthday-karl-marx-we-could-have-done-without-the-millions-dead http://www.newtimes.co.rw/international/president-xi-attend-conference-mark-karl-marxs-birth https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/karl-marx-s-insights-retain-their-clout-and-relevance-1.3481696 (also Friedrich Engels) May 4th: https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/features/karl-marx-200-years-anniversary-left-wing-novelists-george-orwell-hg-wells-john-steinbeck-a8333991.html (Karl Marx and a couple of others - but does The Independent count?) https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/may/04/aaron-bastani-five-books-to-understand-marx (Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels) https://www.csmonitor.com/Books/2018/0504/Karl-Marx-turns-200-Are-his-ideas-still-relevant http://www.stltoday.com/news/world/xi-praises-marxism-as-a-tool-for-china-to-win/article_8781816f-4007-514b-af88-031fc24337ab.html https://nation.com.pk/04-May-2018/china-will-continue-to-hold-high-the-great-banner-of-marxism-xi-says http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5690075/Xi-praises-Marxism-tool-China-win-future.html http://www.scmp.com/news/china/policies-politics/article/2144716/stick-karl-marxs-true-path-xi-jinping-tells-chinas https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/asia-pacific/china-s-xi-hails-karl-marx-s-brilliant-light-of-truth-1.3484091 https://www.sfchronicle.com/news/world/article/Xi-praises-Marxism-as-a-tool-for-China-to-win-12886964.php https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/955152/EU-news-Jean-Claude-Juncker-Karl-Marx-anniversary-Trier-Germany-latest https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/marx-in-a-time-of-superpower-trade-wars-20180504-p4zdfc.html http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/chinese-president-says-marxism-still-totally-correct-for-china-131322 https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/china/no-regrets-xi-jinping-says-marxism-still-totally-correct-for-china/articleshow/64025767.cms https://www.ft.com/content/cf6532dc-4c67-11e8-97e4-13afc22d86d4 http://www.thestandard.com.hk/breaking-news.php?id=106808&sid=3 https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/film/the-young-karl-marx-birth-of-a-working-class-superhero-1.3481533 (also Friedrich Engels) http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1100715.shtml https://www.deccanchronicle.com/nation/in-other-news/040518/karl-marx-is-here-dont-miss-him.html (also Friedrich Engels) http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/world/2018/05/04/no-regrets-xi-says-marxism-still-totally-correct-for-china/ https://www.nst.com.my/world/2018/05/365585/critical-us-china-trade-talks-enter-second-day-beijing http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44009621 (also Friedrich Engels) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 11,037 Posted May 4, 2018 Post for the Bronte sisters: https://www.standard.co.uk/go/london/theatre/new-show-will-tell-the-lives-of-bront-sisters-through-a-rock-documentary-musical-a3831826.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 11,037 Posted May 4, 2018 Post for Frederick Douglass: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/kanye-wests-teachable-moment--for-everyone/2018/05/04/9a842b50-4ee6-11e8-b725-92c89fe3ca4c_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.13212bbda507 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 11,037 Posted May 5, 2018 Karl Marx birthday extravaganza: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/05/karl-marx-200th-birthday-communist-manifesto-revolutionary (with Friedrich Engels) https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/inquirer/karl-marx-flawed-visionary-sowed-seeds-of-clarity-and-chaos/news-story/0a4cd00149cc48c9fc089686d582c512 https://www.nationalheraldindia.com/opinion/karl-marx-a-bicentennial-tribute https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3422084 https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6216414/jean-claude-juncker-blasted-marx/ https://news.mb.com.ph/2018/05/05/eu-chief-dont-judge-karl-marx-for-his-followers-crimes/ https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/marx-s-birthday-party-opens-old-wounds-7rb3ht0x3 https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/low-marx-svrk5tg3l https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/marxism-still-totally-correct-for-china-xi https://nation.com.pk/05-May-2018/china-will-continue-to-hold-high-great-banner-of-marxism-xi https://dailytimes.com.pk/236008/karl-marx-is-200-years-old-today/ (also with Friedrich Engels) http://indianexpress.com/article/opinion/columns/karl-marx-br-ambedkar-philosophy-5163816/ (also with Friedrich Engels) http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/comment/marx-relevant-for-a-reason/584391.html http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1100772.shtml http://www.asianage.com/opinion/edit/050518/200-years-later-marx-lives.html (with Friedrich Engels) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,512 Posted May 5, 2018 Congratulations to Gcreptile on his inevitable win, but try not scare Heef away with algrebra requiring points tallies now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
