The Old Crem 3,611 Posted April 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, Octopus of Odstock said: Probably Gordon Cowans. Has dementia, won the European Cup in 1982, played in the 1990's and had several games for England. If not him, then you're looking at one of the players from the early 1980s that had a long career into the 1990's. He has already announced it so it wouldn’t be quite so shocking if he was suing, But equally he does it more than any of the 1999 Man United players 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCI Frank Burnside 3,887 Posted April 23, 2023 Would agree more likely Cowans or a Liverpool player from 84. All of the English players in the United squad from 99 have over 20 caps bar one and I'd be surprised if it's him. Wouldn't have been renowned for his heading Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,611 Posted April 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, DCI Frank Burnside said: Would agree more likely Cowans or a Liverpool player from 84. All of the English players in the United squad from 99 have over 20 caps bar one and I'd be surprised if it's him. Wouldn't have been renowned for his heading None of the Liverpool players from 1984 fit except maybe Sammy Lee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,611 Posted April 26, 2023 You can see the the ball is faster now a days, I expect by 2050 over half the players playing in the PL in 2010 will have been diagnosed with dementia or such. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,611 Posted April 26, 2023 I predict clearly brain damaged football and rugby players will be within 10 years or so getting 25-40 hits a year on the ddp the way things are going Also I’ve noticed quite a few of the rugby players with it said the first symptom was depression, They has been under 40 few current and retired footballers suffering from depression recently. Sadly they might be within a few years announcing a dementia diagnosis. In fact they are also a few current footballers whose cognitive skills seem to have declined from the start of their career to what they are now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathrace 1,171 Posted May 2, 2023 On 23/04/2023 at 23:27, The Old Crem said: None of the Liverpool players from 1984 fit except maybe Sammy Lee. We can probably eliminate Sammy Lee from our enquiries 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,206 Posted May 2, 2023 Yep, I'm sure it's Cowans. Very few others fit. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,611 Posted May 26, 2023 https://twitter.com/TheCriticMag/status/1661092382505353244 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,081 Posted June 15, 2023 DDP pick for me among others Gordon McQueen reportedly dead: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/20400141/gordon-mcqueen-dead-man-utd-leeds/ 4 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,611 Posted June 15, 2023 Two days and two well known footballers with children who have gone into broadcasting have died. Terry Yorath next? Or Kenny Dalglish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justonecornetto 960 Posted June 15, 2023 20 minutes ago, YoungWillz said: DDP pick for me among others Gordon McQueen reportedly dead: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/20400141/gordon-mcqueen-dead-man-utd-leeds/ A pick for me in my Scottish footballers team, that's 4 hits and 2 of them played for Leeds which seems to be some sort of curse. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarcJWallace 270 Posted June 15, 2023 Too young to remember Gordon McQueen as a player or even as a manager, but his reaction to the goals against France and Italy in the ultimately fruitless Euro 2008 campaign is one of the best videos. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sly Ronnie 893 Posted June 15, 2023 McQueen was one the goalscorers in that memorable spell at the end of the 1979 FA Cup final. United were 2-0 down to Arsenal on 86 minutes but McQueen and McIlroy scored to make it 2-2 on 88 minutes. Alan Sunderland scored the winner for the Gunners a minute later.. RIP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,611 Posted June 20, 2023 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-65953762 Long list of Scottish players has signed a letter campaigning for Football head injuries to become an industrial disease. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,611 Posted July 6, 2023 https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/22578995.football-left-alzheimers-58-kevin-hetherington-tells-story/ Kevin Hetherington Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,690 Posted July 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, The Old Crem said: https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/22578995.football-left-alzheimers-58-kevin-hetherington-tells-story/ Kevin Hetherington Awww RIP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,611 Posted July 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said: Awww RIP. He is not dead yet. But has dementia so can go on the list of suffers. It sounds like he might have a decade or more yet to live. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,690 Posted July 6, 2023 33 minutes ago, The Old Crem said: He is not dead yet. But has dementia so can go on the list of suffers. It sounds like he might have a decade or more yet to live. Then fucking contextualise your posts rather than just copy and pasting articles. Lazy. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,611 Posted July 6, 2023 21 hours ago, Ulitzer95 said: Then fucking contextualise your posts rather than just copy and pasting articles. Lazy. Sorry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,206 Posted July 7, 2023 A in-depth Twitter search has found quite a few more names (which I've updated into the refreshed list on the first page). This include: Steve Elliott (ex-Nottingham Forest, Preston, Luton)- https://www.facebook.com/OfficialPNEFC/videos/getting-active-with-sporting-memories/581539912416136/ Alex Stuart (ex Dundee, Dundee United left-back and then Montrose, Ayr and St. Johnstone manager) - https://www.thedarkblues.co.uk/topic/27021-alex-stuart/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinbabad 1,128 Posted July 7, 2023 Most of the players you guys are talking about are British. What about football players from other countries ? Are they as much afflicted with dementia as well ? In France this is not (yet ?) an issue, I’ve not heard of any former player having dementia. But of course I just know the high profile players… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,611 Posted July 7, 2023 53 minutes ago, Octopus of Odstock said: A in-depth Twitter search has found quite a few more names (which I've updated into the refreshed list on the first page). This include: Steve Elliott (ex-Nottingham Forest, Preston, Luton)- https://www.facebook.com/OfficialPNEFC/videos/getting-active-with-sporting-memories/581539912416136/ Alex Stuart (ex Dundee, Dundee United left-back and then Montrose, Ayr and St. Johnstone manager) - https://www.thedarkblues.co.uk/topic/27021-alex-stuart/ Steve Elliott is only 64 now and hints that the current generation are likely to suffer from very high rates as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whoismakoto 330 Posted July 8, 2023 Found a player who does not have a wiki article but has transfermarket profile. Gilberto Della Brida (Profile), one of the first Brazilian players to play in Belgium. https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2020/12/11/zoon-van-voetballer-gilberto-della-brida-zoekt-fotos/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whoismakoto 330 Posted July 8, 2023 8 hours ago, Sinbabad said: Most of the players you guys are talking about are British. What about football players from other countries ? Are they as much afflicted with dementia as well ? In France this is not (yet ?) an issue, I’ve not heard of any former player having dementia. But of course I just know the high profile players… I think there is still that form of embarassment when revealing dementia according to a survey in the Netherlands, which has higher percentage of saying they prefer to keep it a secret compared to elsewhere in Europe. https://www.rtlnieuws.nl/nieuws/nederland/artikel/4856116/dementie-alzheimer-lewy-body-fred-visser-ziek-openheid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whoismakoto 330 Posted July 21, 2023 @Octopus of Odstock could you figure it out which Paul is being referred here if he is in Barry Hugman's? https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid02J7acWeLn7vbi1ENRJyToLupXULUf7r7rssi9J29QTxVQ8CLibtQznfpkQXrR2VqZl&id=234651450029204&mibextid=Nif5oz 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
