Stayin Alive 26 Posted January 23, 2005 I see that Pavarotti was unable to join his daugther on the beach, owing to his rather large demeanour. The man is a ticking timebomb! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eejit 9 Posted January 23, 2005 I see that Pavarotti was unable to join his daugther on the beach, owing to his rather large demeanour. Why's that? The tide wasn't able to come in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football_fan 42 Posted January 24, 2005 I see that Pavarotti was unable to join his daugther on the beach, owing to his rather large demeanour. The man is a ticking timebomb! Luciano Pavarotti is indeed larger than life. Luciano Pavarotti's heft hampers family holiday Neighbors said Pavarotti actually had to be lowered down the wooden steps from his villa to the terrace using a winch and harness. It took two of the villa's strapping staff in tug-of-war pose to hold him back as he made his way down the steps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Josco 49 Posted January 24, 2005 The party ain't over till the fat man swings! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrunoBrimley 86 Posted January 27, 2005 It would be sad to see him go he still has so much to offer what with thaty terific voice. I still get chills listening to his rendition of O Holy Night each Christmas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death Watch Beatle 41 Posted June 10, 2005 I think Pav needs to be bumped up the list (as oppossed to being bumped off). We haven't reported on him since January, and things haven't really improved for the chubby Tenor. http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.ns...0health%20scare I believe he missed a "3 Tenors" concert last week as well. One to watch! DWB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lady Die 63 Posted June 29, 2006 He's cancelled his UK tour due to ill health. Definitely one to keep an eye on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Bearer 6,102 Posted June 29, 2006 I don't think he'll be going anywhere soon, mind you, if you look at my football score predictions in the footie thread, He'll probably cark it tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bennett_Cerf 2 Posted July 5, 2006 I don't think he'll be going anywhere soon, mind you, if you look at my football score predictions in the footie thread, He'll probably cark it tonight. Oh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football_fan 42 Posted July 7, 2006 Pavarotti recovering from cancer surgery Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Godot 149 Posted July 7, 2006 Pavarotti recovering from cancer surgery If it's the pancreas then I think it's all up for him. It's very difficult to get at and treat. Of course he will have had the best surgeons. In the NHS with older patients they tend just to leave it to take it's course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,197 Posted July 7, 2006 If it's the pancreas then I think it's all up for him. It's very difficult to get at and treat. It doesn't look good for him, I must admit. However, if its caught early there's a chance. It appears, that in Pavarotti's case, it has been, but even so, pancreatic cancer, as DDT pointed out, is the deadliest cancer. Sadly, I have to put Pavarotti in my top 30 possibles for the DDP as a result. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magere Hein 1,400 Posted July 7, 2006 It doesn't look good for him, I must admit. However, if its caught early there's a chance. It appears, that in Pavarotti's case, it has been, but even so, pancreatic cancer, as DDT pointed out, is the deadliest cancer. Sadly, I have to put Pavarotti in my top 30 possibles for the DDP as a result. I'm told that it isn't over till the fat guy sings. Or something like that... regards, Hein Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevonDeathTrip 2,358 Posted July 7, 2006 If it's the pancreas then I think it's all up for him. It's very difficult to get at and treat. It doesn't look good for him, I must admit. However, if its caught early there's a chance. It appears, that in Pavarotti's case, it has been, but even so, pancreatic cancer, as DDT pointed out, is the deadliest cancer. Sadly, I have to put Pavarotti in my top 30 possibles for the DDP as a result. "Doctors removed a malignant pancreatic mass" I think this is rather hopeful. Pancreatic cancer is to the human body what mare's tail and bind weed are to the garden, virtually impossible to remove. There is almost certainly something malignant remaining within the body and there is rather a lot of Pavarotti for it to hide in. I would certainly put him on my DDP for next year, if he makes it that long. Statistically speaking he has a 2% of been alive two years from today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canadian Paul 97 Posted July 7, 2006 If they didn't get it all, I'd imagine we'd know before 2007, and I'd imagine that they didn't get it all as well. If he makes it, he'll be on a lot of lists come next year, and I think the statistics speak for themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Hackenslash 25 Posted July 7, 2006 Given his size and, as has been previously said, the aggressiveness of this type of cancer, I don't think he'll be around for next year's list. Any time within the next 12 weeks for me. Then again, I'm nearly always wrong... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevonDeathTrip 2,358 Posted July 8, 2006 I would like to revise my previous estimate of a 2% chance of survival. This from CancerHelp.org "Of all those people diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, about 10 to 15 in every 100 people (10 to 15%) are alive 1 year later. Sadly, just over 1 in 50 (2 to 3%) are alive 5 years later. At 10 years after diagnosis the figures are almost the same as those at 5 years. About 1 to 3 in every 100 people (1 to 3 %) live for at least 10 years." However Pavarotti's previous ill health will count against his chances. If there is any cancer left in his system at all it could end up spreading to his stomach, spleen, large bowel, nearby large blood vessels and possibly the lymph nodes. It could end up getting worse if the cancer then spreads onwards towards his liver, lungs etc. Even if the operation was entirely successful, there will be massive damage to his digestive system. He is likely to become diabetic (unless he is already?) the removal, or partial removal of the pancreas will destroy the natural flow of enzymes and insulin which are essential for the digestive process. So even if the chances of death aren't 2%, they are bleak to say the least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gunjaman5000 30 Posted July 8, 2006 It (pancreatic cancer) got a mate of mine a few years ago, nasty, nasty, stuff. Four months from diagnosis to funeral, including 11 hours on the operating table and an 'all clear' from the specialist. I'd say the chances of a new album from Luciano are unlike he is, slim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
in eternum+ 22 Posted July 8, 2006 I suppose the difference between someone like Pavarotti getting this particularly nasty form of cancer, and the rest of us muggins getting it, is that he can afford to have some of the best doctors and most expensive treatments in the world. I mean, I appreciate that if it's gonna kill him it's gonna kill him. But when you look at statistics that predict average life spans etc., they are most likely inclusive of all those average Joes and Joettes who tried their luck with the NHS and failed. Like the old folks Godot mentioned, who are simply left to get on with it. It's my guess that any treatment Pavarotti is receiving is far, far above the average. So quality of life notwithstanding, he'll probably be around for a while. Hopefully at least until 2007. Unless he decides to "grace" the stage again, in which case I can only hope for his speedy departure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Godot 149 Posted July 9, 2006 It (pancreatic cancer) got a mate of mine a few years ago, nasty, nasty, stuff. Four months from diagnosis to funeral, including 11 hours on the operating table and an 'all clear' from the specialist. I'd say the chances of a new album from Luciano are unlike he is, slim. I think this is the only time I have seen a reference to Pavarotti and slim in the same sentence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canadian Paul 97 Posted July 10, 2006 Apparentely, even Placido Domingo would consider putting the Pavster on his deadpool list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tuber Mirum 125 Posted July 10, 2006 Since Pavarotti has been unable to sing for the past ten years, that's probably just Domingo's way of suggesting a good excuse finally to stop trying, thank goodness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevonDeathTrip 2,358 Posted July 10, 2006 Apparentely, even Placido Domingo would consider putting the Pavster on his deadpool list. The disclosure in the article that Pavarotti will undergo chemotherapy as well as his operation don't bode terribly well. It suggests that the removal of the euphemistically quoted "malignant pancreatic mass", wasn't a success and that cancer still remains in the body. If this is the case, he is doomed. However he might be having a course of 'adjuvant chemotherapy' just to minimise the risk of the cancer returning in the future, but I wouldn't have thought his doctors would have gone ahead with that procedure, bearing in mind his already fragile health. I don't think Pav is going to be one of the lucky few. Interestingly Nessun Dorma translates as "No Man Sleeps" (I think) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canadian Paul 97 Posted July 24, 2006 Pavarotti returns home, but is not sounding well. Did you post this one OoO? Huh huh? Didya didya? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,197 Posted July 24, 2006 Did you post this one OoO? Huh huh? Didya didya? Fool. I'm keeping you on the Ideas & Possibilities list, now. :skill2: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites