Gooseberry Crumble 5,346 Posted August 3, 2022 26 minutes ago, Windsor said: Concentration camps for Scottish Nationalists? Shame I don’t have a vote… Awe I bet your an old softie at heart!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,608 Posted August 3, 2022 According to the Sun Liz Truss is considering the following cabinet Kwarteng - Chancellor Patel - Tory Chairman Braverman - Home Secretary Sunak - Health Clarke - Bussines Cleverly - Foreign Badenoch - Education Mordaunt - Culture Jayawardena - Environment Tugendhat - Security Coffey - Cabinet office Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,404 Posted August 3, 2022 38 minutes ago, The Old Crem said: According to the Sun …and your post ends there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windsor 2,233 Posted August 3, 2022 44 minutes ago, The Old Crem said: According to the Sun Liz Truss is considering the following cabinet Kwarteng - Chancellor Patel - Tory Chairman Braverman - Home Secretary Sunak - Health Clarke - Bussines Cleverly - Foreign Badenoch - Education Mordaunt - Culture Jayawardena - Environment Tugendhat - Security Coffey - Cabinet office They make Margaret Thatcher's 'vegetables' look positively meaty. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,657 Posted August 3, 2022 1 hour ago, The Old Crem said: According to the Sun Liz Truss is considering the following cabinet Kwarteng - Chancellor Patel - Tory Chairman Braverman - Home Secretary Sunak - Health Clarke - Bussines Cleverly - Foreign Badenoch - Education Mordaunt - Culture Jayawardena - Environment Tugendhat - Security Coffey - Cabinet office and Bojo as ethics advisor, right? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,404 Posted August 4, 2022 Dim Lizzy here, sounding like she’s trying to avoid being thrown in the Gulag by Rishi. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windsor 2,233 Posted August 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, TQR said: Dim Lizzy here, sounding like she’s trying to avoid being thrown in the Gulag by Rishi. She’s a fucking idiot like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,066 Posted August 4, 2022 Just about to settle down for 3 hours with Sky. This is now a sham contest, Sunak has no chance. A lot of the voter base truly believe he was traitorous to Boris and that's all that matters to them. So if you are Sunak, the best thing to do now is throw in the towel, get the lame duck out of Downing Street and get in Truss who is not only not ready for the great office of state she aspires to, but also will not be able to deliver "from day one" all her promises about tax cuts, VAT alterations etc because Parliament isn't back for weeks. All they truly are doing is ensuring Johnson has a few more weeks free PM pay and allowing Truss to take the necessary media classes to try and make her presentable to floaters. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,155 Posted August 4, 2022 19 minutes ago, YoungWillz said: All they truly are doing is ensuring Johnson has a few more weeks free PM pay and allowing Truss to take the necessary media classes to try and make her presentable to floaters. Johnson's the floater, shurely? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windsor 2,233 Posted August 4, 2022 4 hours ago, YoungWillz said: Just about to settle down for 3 hours with Sky. This is now a sham contest, Sunak has no chance. A lot of the voter base truly believe he was traitorous to Boris and that's all that matters to them. So if you are Sunak, the best thing to do now is throw in the towel, get the lame duck out of Downing Street and get in Truss who is not only not ready for the great office of state she aspires to, but also will not be able to deliver "from day one" all her promises about tax cuts, VAT alterations etc because Parliament isn't back for weeks. All they truly are doing is ensuring Johnson has a few more weeks free PM pay and allowing Truss to take the necessary media classes to try and make her presentable to floaters. Didn't read the article but did read a headline saying Sunak won't leave the contest despite the fact we all know he is too exotic for the average Tory voter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,588 Posted August 5, 2022 13 hours ago, YoungWillz said: Just about to settle down for 3 hours with Sky. This is now a sham contest, Sunak has no chance. A lot of the voter base truly believe he was traitorous to Boris and that's all that matters to them. So if you are Sunak, the best thing to do now is throw in the towel, get the lame duck out of Downing Street and get in Truss who is not only not ready for the great office of state she aspires to, but also will not be able to deliver "from day one" all her promises about tax cuts, VAT alterations etc because Parliament isn't back for weeks. All they truly are doing is ensuring Johnson has a few more weeks free PM pay and allowing Truss to take the necessary media classes to try and make her presentable to floaters. Sunak might actually be doing Liz Truss a favour by staying in the contest. One of the things that Theresa May had to contend with was resentment from the local Conservative associations that they had not had their say. They probably would have picked TM anyway but once Andrea Leadsom pulled out and it became a coronation the accusation could be made On The World Tonight there was a suggestion of a Snap Election in the 'honeymoon' period but it was only the speculation of one Conservative commentator 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,404 Posted August 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Bibliogryphon said: On The World Tonight there was a suggestion of a Snap Election in the 'honeymoon' period but it was only the speculation of one Conservative commentator This would be excellent news, given that Truss’ honeymoon period will most likely be about as successful as Anni Dewani’s. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,588 Posted August 5, 2022 38 minutes ago, TQR said: This would be excellent news, given that Truss’ honeymoon period will most likely be about as successful as Anni Dewani’s. I am not so sure She might pull something big out of the bag to temporarily for the cost of living crisis and the Tory press rally round her and exploit the divisions in Labour of strikes and Europe then if there is the possibility of the recession lasting all through 2023 then she might feel more confident going now than waiting until 2024 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted August 5, 2022 Braverman at the Home Office and Badenoch in charge of Education is chilling, even if it's only until the next General Election. So, of course, it's exactly what will happen. I don't see how Truss can get a honeymoon period. The Bank of England's projections yesterday were truly horrific. Nothing she's promising so far is going to make the slightest impact on the cost of living crisis for everyday voters, she's going to have to go further faster. Even if she does somehow manage to get a bump in the polls, how is she going to be able to argue that it's the right time for a General Election, especially when she has a 60+ working majority already (I don't know exactly what it is anymore after all the by-elections). I suspect she's also going to assume that the best conditions for an election will be giving the economy as long as possible to recover and the country as long as possible to get to know her. My hopes are she is very much mistaken on both counts. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,588 Posted August 5, 2022 the country as long as possible to get to know her This to me sounds like the best argument for a snap election there is. I think the more we find out about Liz Truss the less people will like her 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,066 Posted August 5, 2022 Outrageous faux indignation from Northern Tory MPs about the "revelation" that Sunak repatriated money from deprived areas to affluent areas. Hey, bitches, we already knew that - and bitches, you voted for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gooseberry Crumble 5,346 Posted August 5, 2022 On 03/08/2022 at 21:54, The Old Crem said: According to the Sun Liz Truss is considering the following cabinet Kwarteng - Chancellor Patel - Tory Chairman Braverman - Home Secretary Sunak - Health Clarke - Bussines Cleverly - Foreign Badenoch - Education Mordaunt - Culture Jayawardena - Environment Tugendhat - Security Coffey - Cabinet office The gossip from LBC presenter Iain Dale is that Liz Truss is considering making Theresa Coffey Chancellor. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,066 Posted August 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Gooseberry Crumble said: The gossip from LBC presenter Iain Dale is that Liz Truss is considering making Theresa Coffey Chancellor. Has she seen the price of Coffey? The information hasn't percolated through, I guess... 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,588 Posted August 5, 2022 2 hours ago, YoungWillz said: Has she seen the price of Coffey? The information hasn't percolated through, I guess... Coffey of the Coffers! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,657 Posted August 5, 2022 In the meantime - there's some seriously scary stuff going on regarding the cost of living Has anyone actually seen the current PM or chancellor this week? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted August 6, 2022 3 hours ago, maryportfuncity said: In the meantime - there's some seriously scary stuff going on regarding the cost of living Has anyone actually seen the current PM or chancellor this week? In case you've not actually heard, they're both currently on holiday. No, really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,066 Posted August 6, 2022 51 minutes ago, RoverAndOut said: In case you've not actually heard, they're both currently on holiday. No, really. I believe I have pointed out all the crucial times Bawjaws was on holiday at critical times for the country. This time however he has an excuse, because he’s powerless anyway. Still believe this lot are still not laughing at you? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted August 6, 2022 11 hours ago, YoungWillz said: I believe I have pointed out all the crucial times Bawjaws was on holiday at critical times for the country. This time however he has an excuse, because he’s powerless anyway. Still believe this lot are still not laughing at you? One might think in this situation, the lame duck Prime Minister, his backstabbing Chancellor, and the two leadership contenders (the ex-Chancellor and the loyal Foreign Secretary) would be capable of getting around a table and agreeing some emergency measures to come in now that they can all agree on, so we're not having to wait another month for anything to change. But that would require grown ups in the room, and any of them to actually like each other. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windsor 2,233 Posted August 6, 2022 After his comments about redirecting money from areas of deprivation to more affluent areas, Sunak would be as well pulling out. He’ll never live that down in any election - even two years away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
