dead Jimmy Carter

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5 minutes ago, Lafaucheuse said:

Who were the people recently lying at the Capitol ?

 

Here's a list. https://www.aoc.gov/what-we-do/programs-ceremonies/lying-in-state-honor

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At least Trump and Mike Pence shook hands, which they wouldn't have been doing four years ago.

 

Michelle O's absence was inexplicable I thought. Still in Hawaii apparently. "Scheduling issues."

 

Biden was in California only a few hours earlier. 

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2 minutes ago, Cerberus said:

At least Trump and Mike Pence shook hands, which they wouldn't have been doing four years ago.

 

Michelle O's absence was inexplicable I thought. Still in Hawaii apparently. "Scheduling issues."

 

Biden was in California only a few hours earlier. 

Feels like something going on there. She was at Rosalynn’s funeral 

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Oh and just to mention Melania, she looked bored to tears, but then that's her default setting. She was a model after all. 

 

Agree with all the comments about George W. Surprising how much someone can age after a few years out of the public eye. I last saw him at McCain's funeral, I think. 

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34 minutes ago, The Old Crem said:

Feels like something going on there. She was at Rosalynn’s funeral 

 

Michelle being away was maybe what enabled Obama and Trump to exchange jokes, while Melania stared icily into the distance. Locker room talk?  

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2 hours ago, polar duck said:

No, that's Jeff Carter.

As reported on the forum some time ago, he's been diagnosed with Parkinson's. As he's only 72 he could go on for quite a while, but he didn't look great today. As a reminder, he unexpectedly lost his son Jeremy in 2015 and his wife Annette passed away in 2021.

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3 hours ago, The Old Crem said:

Feels like something going on there. She was at Rosalynn’s funeral 

I think she probably couldn’t face Trump. 
 

During the last election campaign in my opinion she took a stronger stance against Trump than any other senior figure. 

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I thought it was a beautiful service.

 

The sons of Gerald Ford and Walter Mondale reading out eulogies on behalf of their father's was really touching. Particularly in the case of Ford because he undoubtedly knew he was never going to deliver it himself therefore the fact he did really have something prepared for someone else to read out tells everyone how strong their friendship was.

 

Biden also gave a pretty good eulogy too. And I think there's something to be said about how the last sitting president of Carter's lifetime was someone who was a Carter supporter all the way back. Because for a long time even in his own party few were keen to embrace him after 1980 and on several occasions it was the opposite. I think Clinton will admit that in the 1990s did his very best to present himself as "not Jimmy Carter" to the point it was insulting. With Obama it was more understandable because a lot more time had passed between them but Carter was still very active in his post-presidential work and could have been useful. 

 

Seeing Andy Young was pretty great too. 92 years old but his words came out smoothly as if he were still a young man and I think his speech was nice in sharing the parallels and differences that brought those two men from Georgia together.

 

But the best speech in my view was the one by Carter's ex-aide in the White House who set out the accomplishments of his presidency to set the record straight that he was not simply a "great former president". I'm glad Carter lived long enough to witness the reassessment of his presidency because there was a lot he got done that went unnoticed because of overriding issues of the day. For so long he was the inflation president or the gas lines president or the America Held Hostage president but it's not the 1980s anymore and we can see what he did which endures to this day.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iHHod36yVk

 

 

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10 hours ago, Windsor said:

CNN were making a big deal over who shook whose hand. I only noticed Obama shaking Trump’s hand. The Bushes gave him the swerve and everyone else took their seat from the other side of the aisle.

 

The telling one for me was seeing Kamala Harris not being able to look at Biden. She looks like a gold digger who has learned her elderly husband will outlive her…

Karen Pence snubbing the Trumps is trending on twitter/ X.

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4 hours ago, Windsor said:

I think she probably couldn’t face Trump. 
 

During the last election campaign in my opinion she took a stronger stance against Trump than any other senior figure. 

Understandable, interesting seeing Barack Obama appear to get on with Trump, after the former visibly mocked the size of the latter's dick at the Democrat convention last year.

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10 hours ago, Thatcher said:

Dick Cheney the only former VP not in attendance. 

Was his wife there to represent him?

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10 minutes ago, Gooseberry Crumble said:

Was his wife there to represent him?

No.

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In watching the arrival of all Presidents to the funeral today, Trump looked much sharper and less frail than Bush. I know a lot of people on here think Bush will live to some great age, but even before today I had doubts he would surpass his father's lifespan. And as for Trump, a fast food diet is not a death sentence, especially when you've got great genes and a life long history of no smoking and no alcohol.

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6 hours ago, The Daredevil said:

In watching the arrival of all Presidents to the funeral today, Trump looked much sharper and less frail than Bush. I know a lot of people on here think Bush will live to some great age, but even before today I had doubts he would surpass his father's lifespan. And as for Trump, a fast food diet is not a death sentence, especially when you've got great genes and a life long history of no smoking and no alcohol.

People who parrot this should be put on mod preview. His parents lived decent lifespans, sure, but nothing outrageous and to think that that is going to prop him up despite his lifestyle is absurd.

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11 minutes ago, Master Obit said:

People who parrot this should be put on mod preview. His parents lived decent lifespans, sure, but nothing outrageous and to think that that is going to prop him up despite his lifestyle is absurd.

And it all means shit if someone shoots him in the head, which is the most likely way he will go.

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6 hours ago, The Daredevil said:

In watching the arrival of all Presidents to the funeral today, Trump looked much sharper and less frail than Bush. I know a lot of people on here think Bush will live to some great age, but even before today I had doubts he would surpass his father's lifespan. And as for Trump, a fast food diet is not a death sentence, especially when you've got great genes and a life long history of no smoking and no alcohol.

Great genes and a life long history of no smoking and no alcohol didn't stop a family friend of mine from dying of cancer at 42 when their parents are still alive into their 80s, life is unpredictable like that. Trump's parents lived decently long lives but they didn't make crazy ages as Master Obit has already said. I don't think he'll die within the next few years but he is looking increasingly like shit and on top of that has one of the most stressful jobs in the world. He would be lucky to see 85 imo.

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On 13/12/2024 at 16:36, Mango said:

"to skip Trump inauguration due to declining health but would go if he could"

 

Can definitely now confirm he won't be there.