World's Oldest

[PLANet 2]

24 minutes ago, lay_kulast95 said:

Here's Juan's birth records that are indexed online

 

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6Z5D-CF6J

 

Here's the online information for Juan's ID card

 

https://www.dateas.com/es/persona_venezuela/perez-mora-juan-vicente-13031347

 

Unbelievable... do you need more???

This link is Locked. You missed my point.

[PLANet 2]

13 minutes ago, lay_kulast95 said:

Yes, exactly like Puma85 said. His age is validated by LQ, GRG, LAS, and GWR. Several of the most accurate organizations in the world. I think PLANet is trolling. I don't think anyone is THAT mindblind to Juan's case.

These are not very reliable especially some of them. Do you trust Homeopathy or Creationism ?

[lay_kulast95 129]

1 minute ago, PLANet said:

These are not very reliable especially some of them. Do you trust Homeopathy or Creationism ?

I hope you're not serious. 

[PLANet 2]

13 minutes ago, lay_kulast95 said:

I hope you're not serious. 

Is it serious to claim you can say what is the age of a man allegedly born in rural Venezuela in the 1900s with some claimed documents?

[PLANet 2]

Let's see what even these organizations say

 

Mat(t)hew Beard was an American supercentenarian claimant who was believed to have been the oldest living person in the world from the death of Emma Wilson on 13 October 1983, until his own death over a year later. He was posthumously validated as the oldest person ever, the title he held from April 1984 until his age was surpassed by Augusta Holtz in 1986. His age was validated by the Gerontology Research Group, but this was later found to be inaccurate and his validation was rescinded by LongeviQuest.

[MortalCaso 1,624]

Drop a nuke in this thread. Please

 

@Death Impends

@Paul Bearer

[drol 11,906]

Putin had sent a bomber plane to nuke Ukraine, but when the pilot flew over the World's Oldest thread he decided to drop her the nuclear bomb.

[PLANet 2]

Lucy Hannah was recognised by "organisations" for several decades but suddenly the recognition was retracted. Lucy Hannah was not 117 years-248 days but she actually had the more likely lifespan of around 98 years.

[lay_kulast95 129]

7 minutes ago, PLANet said:

Let's see what even these organizations say

 

Mat(t)hew Beard was an American supercentenarian claimant who was believed to have been the oldest living person in the world from the death of Emma Wilson on 13 October 1983, until his own death over a year later. He was posthumously validated as the oldest person ever, the title he held from April 1984 until his age was surpassed by Augusta Holtz in 1986. His age was validated by the Gerontology Research Group, but this was later found to be inaccurate and his validation was rescinded by LongeviQuest.

Heaven help us...

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3 minutes ago, PLANet said:

Lucy Hannah was recognised by "organisations" for several decades but suddenly the recognition was retracted. Lucy Hannah was not 117 years-248 days but she actually had the more likely lifespan of around 98 years.

 

The fuck did you come from?

[PLANet 2]

Shigechiyo Izumi was verified to be the "Oldest Living Man" by Guinness World Records in 1978. He lived to 1986, dying at the recorded age of "120". In 1987, a year after his death, Japanese researchers leaked to the media the idea that he had been "only 105" and had taken on the identity of an older sibling who had died

GWR retracted this claim only in 2010.

 

Just think this is Japan, a developed country and not Venezuela.

[drol 11,906]

Just now, PLANet said:

Shigechiyo Izumi was verified to be the "Oldest Living Man" by Guinness World Records in 1978. He lived to 1986, dying at the recorded age of "120". In 1987, a year after his death, Japanese researchers leaked to the media the idea that he had been "only 105" and had taken on the identity of an older sibling who had died

GWR retracted this claim only in 2010.

The GRG it was all based on a lie!

[PLANet 2]

 Carrie White once was considered the World's Oldest Person in 1989. In 2010 it was suggested that she was likely only 102 and her age had been mis-estimated when she was entered into a mental health institution in 1909, following what was then described as "post-typhoid psychosis". 

[PLANet 2]

Kamato Hongo was once considered the World's Oldest Person by Guinness World Records too, in 2002-2003.

Again, in 2010, years later, it was suggested that her age may have been altered, perhaps to hide a teenage pregnancy. It has been estimated that her actual age was more likely to be 110-112 than 116 as claimed. Given an older sibling was born in 1890, it's firmly established that she could be no older than 112.

[TQR 14,384]

2 minutes ago, PLANet said:

 Carrie White once was considered the World's Oldest Person in 1989. In 2010 it was suggested that she was likely only 102 and her age had been mis-estimated when she was entered into a mental health institution in 1909, following what was then described as "post-typhoid psychosis". 

 

WOOOOOOOOOO THAT'S BRILLIANT.

Please stop now.

[PLANet 2]

A different case... Still NOT retracted

 

Weaver was born in Arkansas in an era before birth registration was widespread throughout the American Deep South. Combined with lower literacy rates, many African Americans from this time period were unaware of their exact date of birth. While Weaver’s 1900 census match states a birthdate of “April 1898”, her Social Security Application lists her birthday as 4 July 1898; the Fourth of July was a common placeholder date used by the Social Security agency for applicants who didn’t know their birthday. If the month of birth given in her 1900 census match is to be believed, then Weaver would have been around 117 at the time of her death, although her age was more conservatively validated using the placeholder birthdate.

 

How is she validated if they even themselves know this is a placeholder birthdate? Is it scientific to validate a great old age of 116 (unlikely) with conflicting birthdays?

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I feel like I've had a stroke.

[PLANet 2]

I do not claim that all supercentenarians are fake, since a large number of them has been recorded and several of them are from highly developed societies and rich environments where it would be much more difficult statistically to have a mistake in the date of birth, whether intentional or not or switch identities (in individual cases it still happens ). I am skeptical about those who are very old and those who come from very remote areas with a low life expectancy for the general population. Real hard evidence and real scientific methods are needed there to claim that they really reached this very unlikely age in a too good to be true stable shape. In other occasions a claimed very old age of 115 could be all the way down to more realistic 90-95 (we have already seen even this) or at best 110.

[Charles De Gaulle 484]

@PLANet and @lay_kulast95 massive fan of both of you don't mind the grumpier members here. I'm just curious what can you tell us about the oldest verified porn star?

[lay_kulast95 129]

29 minutes ago, PLANet said:

I do not claim that all supercentenarians are fake, since a large number of them has been recorded and several of them are from highly developed societies and rich environments where it would be much more difficult statistically to have a mistake in the date of birth, whether intentional or not or switch identities (in individual cases it still happens ). I am skeptical about those who are very old and those who come from very remote areas with a low life expectancy for the general population. Real hard evidence and real scientific methods are needed there to claim that they really reached this very unlikely age in a too good to be true stable shape. In other occasions a claimed very old age of 115 could be all the way down to more realistic 90-95 (we have already seen even this) or at best 110.

All right. I'll bite this stupid piece of bait that you're trying to reel us in with, and imagine that for a second you are capable of an intelligent conversation. What do you think of the cases of Kane Tanaka? Lucile Randon? Jiroemon Kimura? Christian Mortensen? Emma Morano? Misao Okawa? Augusta Holtz? Maria Branyas Moreira? Edie Ceccarelli? Are they all "fraudsters" like you claim too? You say that cases require "hard evidence". I'd like to see some of this "hard evidence" to backup your outrageous and ridiculous claims. 

[The Great Cornholio 902]

On 19/09/2023 at 05:21, lay_kulast95 said:

Sorry I got so weird earlier, I was off my medication.

Guys I think I found the antidote

[lay_kulast95 129]

Clarabell Demers, the oldest person in North Dakota passes away at age 113

 

https://www.kfyrtv.com/2024/01/17/oldest-person-north-dakota-passes-away-age-113/

[The Watcher 314]

14 hours ago, PLANet said:

Shigechiyo Izumi was verified to be the "Oldest Living Man" by Guinness World Records in 1978. He lived to 1986, dying at the recorded age of "120". In 1987, a year after his death, Japanese researchers leaked to the media the idea that he had been "only 105" and had taken on the identity of an older sibling who had died

GWR retracted this claim only in 2010.

 

Just think this is Japan, a developed country and not Venezuela.

Very embarrassing for Norris McWhirter who was still involved then with the Guinness Book of Records which it was probably still known as then as he flew to Japan and was photographed with the "oldest" person in the world shortly before his death at the then believed age of 120.

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In my work game I have banned all new additions to the list of Centarians and so my interest in this thread has diminshed significantly. It is second on my most ignored threads behind the What are you drinking? thread

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45 minutes ago, Bibliogryphon said:

In my work game I have banned all new additions to the list of Centarians and so my interest in this thread has diminshed significantly. It is second on my most ignored threads behind the What are you drinking? thread

 

I never took you to be such a boring fucker