one dead Gerry Adams & Martin McGuinness

[Grim Up North 3,725]

The comparison between Nelson Mandela and Martin McGuinness is interesting.

 

It seems that by being a distance away from South Africa we are able to ignore his crimes and rejoice in the ending of apartheid.

 

But due to our greater knowledge (through proximity?) of the crimes of the IRA we are unable to view McGuinness in the same favourable light.

 

I would be able to say more about Mandela but Long Walk to Freedom is the only book I have ever started and not finished - I got to the bit where he got his foreskin lopped off but at that point the terrorism was still a good long way off and about every fourth word was a massive long African place name which just made the book unreadable (for me anyway).

[The Mad Hatter 1,092]

I am Irish and even I can't defend this man there's a way for things to be done and aims to be achieved and murdering innocent folk isn't one of them.

[Grim Up North 3,725]

Just now, Morbidkid said:

I am Irish and even I can't defend this man there's a way for things to be done and aims to be achieved and murdering innocent folk isn't one of them.

Yes but can you defend Nelson Mandela who murdered innocent folk?

[Spade_Cooley 9,515]

Up the ra, imho

[The Mad Hatter 1,092]

2 minutes ago, Grim Up North said:

Yes but can you defend Nelson Mandela who murdered innocent folk?

My post was unrelated to your post and was a general reaction to his death. I don't know about nelsons crimes tbh.

[Sean 6,313]

5 hours ago, Toast said:

 

Hopefully you will now change your avatar to something more pleasing to the eye?

I shall but I will keep it up a couple of days to celebrate his death.

[themaninblack 2,112]

He must have seen more busted knee caps than a specialist orthopaedic doctor...

[charon 4,943]

Be interesting who's shitting it the most from his demise, SF, Unionists, Politizi or Westminster. At a guess SF. Tho the loyalists have been fucking around again. Geordie Gilmore got whacked a couple of weeks back , lovely bit of  defiance from him the day before  .

“Heard I’m getting the blame for the Oak . . . and I’m arrested. Well, I wasn’t there and I’m not arrested.”

He added:

“The days of the UDA putting people out of Carrick are over.”

  http://www.anphoblacht.com/contents/26743

[En Passant 3,741]

3 hours ago, Morbidkid said:

I am Irish and even I can't defend this man there's a way for things to be done and aims to be achieved and murdering innocent folk isn't one of them.

 

2 hours ago, Morbidkid said:

My post was unrelated to your post and was a general reaction to his death. I don't know about nelsons crimes tbh.

Has your account been hijacked? You'll have to change your name to MorbidAdult if you maintain this.

Bloody hell I'm impressed. Way to go, seriously.

 

[Sean 6,313]

[Sean 6,313]

On 1/9/2017 at 16:55, WednesdayAddams said:

March 17th

I think you were the closest.

[Toast 16,130]

19 minutes ago, Shaun of the Dead said:

On 09/01/2017 at 16:55, WednesdayAddams said:

March 17th

I think you were the closest.

 

St Patrick wouldn't allow him to die on his day.

[Youwanticewiththat 611]

On ‎22‎/‎03‎/‎2017 at 20:24, Shaun of the Dead said:

I suspect he'd be asking God for power-sharing.

[maryportfuncity 10,642]

Deadlock in Ulster talks

 

Bring on direct rule and a few criminal psychopaths rekindling the spirit of the young McGuinness, then

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39399501

[Spade_Cooley 9,515]

Former Glenavon defender Tony Scappaticci found dead in his flat aged 48. Nothing to do with The Troubles, obviously, but "Scappaticci" can't be that common a name in the Stolen Six can it?

[maryportfuncity 10,642]

1 hour ago, Spade_Cooley said:

Former Glenavon defender Tony Scappaticci found dead in his flat aged 48. Nothing to do with The Troubles, obviously, but "Scappaticci" can't be that common a name in the Stolen Six can it?

 

 

According to an online report I just found he'd "been ill." Though I share your observation on the name. Stakeknife spells his surname the same way: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freddie_Scappaticci

[maryportfuncity 10,642]

The Chuckle Brothers movie awaits us later this month: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/entertainment/film-tv/news/the-journey-new-trailer-released-for-paisley-and-mcguinness-movie-35576588.html

[Deathray 2,940]

On 3/26/2017 at 19:14, maryportfuncity said:

Deadlock in Ulster talks

 

Bring on direct rule and a few criminal psychopaths rekindling the spirit of the young McGuinness, then

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39399501

 

If some muppets do go down the new-IRA route then it'll play directly into May's hands - as she'll be able to use the new conflicts as a reason not to give a referendum on a united Ireland that is almost guaranteed to happen as a result of Brexit. 

[maryportfuncity 10,642]

1 hour ago, Deathray said:

 

If some muppets do go down the new-IRA route then it'll play directly into May's hands - as she'll be able to use the new conflicts as a reason not to give a referendum on a united Ireland that is almost guaranteed to happen as a result of Brexit. 

 

Conservative Party Conference this year is in Manchester...the provos have got form in that town, right?

[charon 4,943]

Yer man who unfortunately lead to the demise of the INLA has been found probably. Seamus Ruddy near Paris....https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/06/disappeared-seamus-ruddy-human-remains-found-pont-de-larche-inla

[Spade_Cooley 9,515]

UVF activity on the increase in Larne, can't be too long before a body is caught.

[maryportfuncity 10,642]

There's a recent biography of Adams that's been well reviewed but - apparently - makes a pertinent point about his continued hold on life. The argument being that as someone with a bit of political nous he was a catch for the provo side because he had more reasoning power than a lot of the blow 'em up/ kill 'em brigade and was valued for the whiff of legitimacy he provided whilst the British military side regarded him as their best hope of something better than a shooting war and never seriously considered assassinating him.

 

Then again - the current die-hards aren't bound by that thinking

[gcreptile 10,964]

Gerry Adams announces retirement:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/17/gerry-adams-to-announce-retirement-as-sinn-fein-president

[Sean 6,313]

3 minutes ago, gcreptile said:

Gerry Adams announces retirement:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/17/gerry-adams-to-announce-retirement-as-sinn-fein-president

Wooo

[maryportfuncity 10,642]

3 minutes ago, gcreptile said:

Gerry Adams announces retirement:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/17/gerry-adams-to-announce-retirement-as-sinn-fein-president

 

Touch of the Mugabe's mind. From said link: But sources within the mainstream Irish republican movement and veteran Adams-watchers believe the 69-year-old will still hold the centre of power in Sinn Féin from behind the scenes long after his official successor is elevated to the top post.