DCI Frank Burnside 3,889 Posted November 11, 2021 There goes one for 2022. Felt if he had made it and been picked he'd probably have been the 1st hit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Imelda 626 Posted November 11, 2021 Hope he didn't saffer too much 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lafaucheuse 4,079 Posted November 11, 2021 Fin de l'apartheid ? more like "fin de la partie" ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCI Frank Burnside 3,889 Posted November 11, 2021 Final Video message on his foundations website https://fwdeklerk.org/index.php/en/ Christ he lost a fuck ton of weight through the illness. He wasn't a particularly large man Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drol 12,134 Posted November 12, 2021 Is any pre-apartheid SA political figure left? They don't seem to be extremely longeve. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,844 Posted November 12, 2021 43 minutes ago, drol said: Is any pre-apartheid SA political figure left? They don't seem to be extremely longeve. Pre? Didn’t it start in the late 40s? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drol 12,134 Posted November 12, 2021 Oops. Well, you know what I meant. Pre apartheid abolition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,628 Posted November 12, 2021 Desmond Tutu is really the last of the giants (household names in the Uk) from that era of South Africa politics left Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 11,073 Posted November 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, drol said: Oops. Well, you know what I meant. Pre apartheid abolition. Pre-post-apartheid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,844 Posted November 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, gcreptile said: Pre-post-apartheid. Or just apartheid-era? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arghton 6,868 Posted November 12, 2021 Adriaan Vlok, Barend du Plessis and Dawie de Villiers were ministers in P.W. Botha's second cabinet. Kraai van Niekerk, Leon Wessels, Tertius Delport and Rina Venter (also the first woman to hold a cabinet post in the history of South Africa) were ministers in de Klerk's cabinet. I wouldn't really call any of these notable though. Outside of politics, Georg Meiring (last apartheid-era chief of the defence force) and Eugene de Kock (police colonel, notorious torturer) are still alive. Atleast Mangosuthu Buthelezi, Thabo Mbeki, Jacob Zuma and Tutu from the notable anti-apartheid activists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,454 Posted November 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Ulitzer95 said: Or just apartheid-era? Yeah, when they didn’t avoid not doing anti-apartheid. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,844 Posted November 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, drol said: Oops. Well, you know what I meant. Pre apartheid abolition. Sir Sydney Kentridge and Desmond Tutu are the most notable establishment figures of apartheid-era SA I'm aware of who are still alive. Both were anti-apartheid. A total lack of records for South African birth and death records online means that I have loads of 95+ SA names on my Wiki watchlist who are likely dead but there's nothing to prove it either way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCI Frank Burnside 3,889 Posted November 12, 2021 Allen Boesak Wiki still knocking about In his mid 70's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thatcher 2,474 Posted January 8, 2023 On 12/11/2021 at 14:08, arghton said: Adriaan Vlok, Barend du Plessis and Dawie de Villiers were ministers in P.W. Botha's second cabinet. Kraai van Niekerk, Leon Wessels, Tertius Delport and Rina Venter (also the first woman to hold a cabinet post in the history of South Africa) were ministers in de Klerk's cabinet. I wouldn't really call any of these notable though. Outside of politics, Georg Meiring (last apartheid-era chief of the defence force) and Eugene de Kock (police colonel, notorious torturer) are still alive. Atleast Mangosuthu Buthelezi, Thabo Mbeki, Jacob Zuma and Tutu from the notable anti-apartheid activists. Adriaan de Vlok, mentioned here, has died aged 85. He served as Minister for Law and Order from 1986-1991. Received obituaries from Daily Mail, Le Monde and BBC. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites