DevonDeathTrip 2,358 Posted January 21, 2009 Cardinal Stéphanos II Ghattas, 88, patriarch emeritus of Alexandria of the Copts, Egypt, died on January 20, in Cairo. Link Just to clarify,he was the leader of the Catholic Copts, not to be confused with the Coptic Orthodox Church,headed by Pope Shenouda III,or the Coptic Orthodox Patriarchate, headed by Pope-Patriarch Theodoros II. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anubis the Jackal 77 Posted January 21, 2009 Thanks for that detailed clarification, DDT. There's certainly no copt-out from you when it comes to elderly churchmen Cardinal Stéphanos II Ghattas, 88, patriarch emeritus of Alexandria of the Copts, Egypt, died on January 20, in Cairo. Link Just to clarify,he was the leader of the Catholic Copts, not to be confused with the Coptic Orthodox Church,headed by Pope Shenouda III,or the Coptic Orthodox Patriarchate, headed by Pope-Patriarch Theodoros II. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
honez 79 Posted January 21, 2009 Cardinal Stéphanos II Ghattas, 88, patriarch emeritus of Alexandria of the Copts, Egypt, died on January 20, in Cairo. Link Just to clarify,he was the leader of the Catholic Copts, not to be confused with the Coptic Orthodox Church,headed by Pope Shenouda III,or the Coptic Orthodox Patriarchate, headed by Pope-Patriarch Theodoros II. It would have been more impressive if he was leader of the Keystone Copts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thefunkyfaz 51 Posted January 22, 2009 Cardinal Stéphanos II Ghattas, 88, patriarch emeritus of Alexandria of the Copts, Egypt, died on January 20, in Cairo. Link Just to clarify,he was the leader of the Catholic Copts, not to be confused with the Coptic Orthodox Church,headed by Pope Shenouda III,or the Coptic Orthodox Patriarchate, headed by Pope-Patriarch Theodoros II. It would have been more impressive if he was leader of the Keystone Copts. All that matters is that he's copt it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevonDeathTrip 2,358 Posted January 29, 2009 The Patriarch of the Georgian Orthodox Church, has been hospitalised with a virus and forced to cancel a trip to Moscow. Illia II Ill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevonDeathTrip 2,358 Posted January 30, 2009 Bishop Richard Williamson, who has been in the news this week for denying the Holocaust and then apologising to The Pope for his comments, is reported to be dying of cancer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themaninblack 2,112 Posted January 30, 2009 Bishop Richard Williamson, who has been in the news this week for denying the Holocaust and then apologising to The Pope for his comments, is reported to be dying of cancer. Is he really a bishop? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,576 Posted January 31, 2009 Justice is served by the sounds of it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevonDeathTrip 2,358 Posted February 6, 2009 Ken Hutcherson, former NFL linebacker and outspoken anti gay pastor, has been suffering from prostate cancer for the last six years. In an email to followers, he has asked them to pray for him and told them he is about to start chemotherapy. Prostate cancer isn't usually treated with chemotherapy unless the condition is very advanced, or if it has spread to the bones. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windsor 2,233 Posted February 6, 2009 Ken Hutcherson, former NFL linebacker and outspoken anti gay pastor, has been suffering from prostate cancer for the last six years. In an email to followers, he has asked them to pray for him and told them he is about to start chemotherapy. Prostate cancer isn't usually treated with chemotherapy unless the condition is very advanced, or if it has spread to the bones. "I've met many ex-gays, but I've never met an ex-black." I take it he has never met Michael Jackson? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,576 Posted February 6, 2009 Ken Hutcherson, former NFL linebacker and outspoken anti gay pastor, has been suffering from prostate cancer for the last six years. In an email to followers, he has asked them to pray for him and told them he is about to start chemotherapy. Prostate cancer isn't usually treated with chemotherapy unless the condition is very advanced, or if it has spread to the bones. These have to be some of his best: "I believe that God’s word is the final word. I believe that mine is not. And anything that God say is wrong, I say is wrong. And anything that God says is right, I say is right. I do not hate homosexuals. That’s the worst lie that’s ever been told about me. I hate homosexuality because the bible does." Hutcherson: "The country better be glad I did not want to be President of the United States." Goertzen: "You think pretty highly of yourself." Hutcherson: "You know why? I know who I belong to. I'm a child of the King." Hutcherson: “God has given us this country and has given us animals to subdue and train, and that's what I do and I enjoy it." Goertzen: "You think God gave us animals to subdue and train?" Hutcherson: "Oh yeah, you bet, to please man." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pagad Ultimo 6 Posted February 16, 2009 Cardinal Stephen Sou Hwan Kim, former Archbishop of Seoul, has died on February 16, aged 86. Link Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Miser 18 Posted February 16, 2009 Cardinal Stephen Sou Hwan Kim, former Archbishop of Seoul, has died on February 16, aged 86. Link Darn it. Should have listed him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pagad Ultimo 6 Posted February 24, 2009 Cardinal Paul Joseph Pham Ðình Tung, former Archbishop of Hanoi, Vietnam, has died on February 22, aged 89. Link Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevonDeathTrip 2,358 Posted March 29, 2009 Archbishop Earl Paulk, mentioned earlier in this thread, has died of cancer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Grave Mistake Posted April 2, 2009 Here is some information from a spreadsheet I possess that contains information on most of the current Cardinal electors (those cardinals under 80 years of age who would be eligible to vote in a Papal election, were Ratzinger to drop dead tomorrow. Once they turn 80, they can't vote .) I list their age, name and nationality. Underneath is a brief sentence or two about the more notable ones, including any known health concerns (the spreadsheet was originally created for betting on the name of the next Pope-it contains a more detailed profile of each one ). Very mixed bag of people - some great human rights activists, reformers, etc but some very dubious characters as well. Many, many of the older cardinals had links to Pinochet, the Argentine War and so on but fortunately, they are more than 80 years of age now, so were removed from this list. Lots of shady types still on here, though. Just for the record, though not a Catholic, I would like to see Daneels (a famous Belgian!) or Husar as next Pope. Of course, as compassionate reformers, they don't stand any real chance... Here they are (hope formatting isn't too screwed up). Should be some interesting candidates to pick over amongst this lot: 1929 Jozef Glemp Polish Anti-semite. Slave labour camp worker in WW2. 1929 Dario Hoyos Colombian Took money from drug cartels when other bishops refused to do so. 1929 Francesco Marchisano Italian 1930 Aloysius Ambrozic Slovenian Ultra-conservative 1930 Julian Casado Spanish Opus Dei 1930 Ignace Daoud Syria 1930 Salvatore De Giorgi Italian Sicilian! 1930 Michele Giordano Italian Been acquitted of criminal corruption – twice. 1930 Paul Poupard French 1930 Janis Pujats Latvian Strongly anti-homosexual. 1930 Christian Tumi Cameroon 1930 Thomas Williams New Zealander Morals campaigner. Anti-gambling. 1931 Nicolas Cheong Jin-Suk South Korean 1931 Bernard Law Mexican Marred by US sex abuse scandals. 1931 Bernard Panafieu French 1931 Camillo Ruini Italian Retired for age/health reasons. 1931 Sergio Sebastiani Italian 1931 Adrianus Simonis Dutch Ultra-conservative 1931 Agustin Vicente Spanish 1932 Francis Arinze Nigerian Ultra-conservative. Health issues. 1932 Renato Martino Italian Denounced execution of Saddam. 1932 Jose Martins Portuguese 1932 Cormac Murphy-O'Connor English Tainted by sex scandals. 1932 Gaudencio Rosales Filipino Moderate successor to Cardinal Sin. 1932 Eusebio Scheid Brazilian 1932 Henri Schwery Swiss Ultra-conservative 1932 Rodolfo Toruno Guatemalan Peace maker. 1932 Miloslav Vlk Czech Worked as underground helper in Communist years. 1932 Joseph Zen Ze-Kiun Chinese Stood up to China over Tianemen Massacre. Freedom activist and non-violent resistance campaigner. 1933 Geraldo Agnello Brazilian 1933 Javier Barragan Mexican 1933 Godfried Daneels Belgian Very liberal, peace activist. Great reformer. Health problems – heart attacks in the past. 1933 Raffaele Farina Italian Head of Vatican Secret Archives. 1933 Lubomyr Husar Ukrainian Regarded as very holy. A Catholic Cardinal who is actually a Christian! 1933 Walter Kasper German Very ecumenical and strong on building relations with Jews. 1933 Joachim Meisner German Ultra-conservative, infamous for attack on modern art. Accused of being not a Christian. Virtually a Nazi. 1933 Francisco Ossa Chilean Helped poor during Pinochet regime. 1933 Severino Poletto Italian 1934 Tarcisio Bertone Italian Made a fool of himself attacking Da Vinci Code. 1934 Julius Darmaatmadja Indonesian Links to Indonesian military... 1934 Claudio Hummes Brazilian Opposed military regime in Brazil and helped leftist President win power. 1934 Jean-Baptiste Man Pham Vietnamese Has helped to build infrastructure and education in his diocese. 1934 Giovanni Re Italian Potential to reform the Vatican from within if elected Pope. 1934 Franc Rode Slovenian Vatican diplomat. Built relations with Marxists. 1934 Dionigi Tettamanzi Italian Spoken out on corporate ethics and against Iraq War. Supported anti-globalisation protestors but may have links to Opus Dei. Very flamboyant. 1934 Carlos Vallejo Spanish 1935 Paul Cordes German 1935 John Foley United States Teetotaller. 1935 Giovanni Lajolo Italian 1936 Jaime Alamino Cuban Former political prisoner. Theologian and Human Rights medal recipient. 1936 Ennio Antonelli Italian Excellent relations with his flock but cool relations with Rome. Patron of the arts and strong interest in social justice and peace issues. 1936 Jorge Bergoglio Argentine Links to Argentine Dirty War have hugely discredited him. 1936 Ivan Dias Indian Opus Dei links. Links to Argentine Dirty War. 1936 Karl Lehmann German Recent health issues. Calls for end to priestly celibacy. 1936 William Levada United States Successor to Ratzinger as Head of Inquisition. Very cold-hearted. 1936 Roger Mahony United States Very controversial in US sex abuse scandals. 1936 Anthony Okogie Nigerian 1936 Jose Policarpo Portuguese 1936 Nicolas Rodriguez Dominican Has stood up to the military and accused them of siphoning aid money intended for the poor 1936 Julio Sandoval Bolivian 1936 Theodore-Adrien Sarr Senegalese 1936 Georg Sterzinsky German Notable only for attacks on the issue of homosexual marriage. 1936 Jean-Claude Turcotte Canadian 1936 Antonio Varela Spanish 1937 Audrys Backys Lithuanian 1937 Francis George United States 1937 Attilio Nicora Italian Overlooked by Ratzinger for Secretary of State job. 1937 Lluis Sistach Spanish 1938 Carlo Caffarra Italian Medical ethicist. 1938 Keith O'Brien Irish Serious health problems. “The Cardinal of Controversy.” Attacked the Hokey Pokey... 1939 Sean Brady Irish 1939 Stanislaw Dziwisz Polish 1939 Zenon Grocholewski Polish 1939 Telesphore Toppo Indian 1940 Agostino Vallini Italian 1941 Wilfrid Napier South African 1941 George Pell Australian Ultra-conservative Australian. Anti-environmentalist and alleged to be involved in multiple sex scandals. Denies global warming. 1941 Angelo Scola Italian Paleoconservative – decline of Europe. Strong theologian. Inquisitor but warm and open. Very conservative views on sex. Able to rise above ideological disputes. Very gracious in person. May become fourth Pope from Venice in the last 100 years. Unyielding but not a fanatic on issues such as cloning, human embryo reseach and so on, he is one of those who began as a supporter of Vatican 2 but later grew to have reservations. Current favourite to be the next Pope. 1941 Gabriel Wako Sudanese Had done enormous amount to fight hunger, support health care and education, and calls on God of Peace. 1942 Norberto Carrera Mexican Alleged involvement in child sexual abuse cover-up. Links to ultra-conservative groups. 1942 Juan Cipriani Thorne Peruvian Opus Dei. Corrupt and against human rights. Pro-war and patriotism. Hated in his native Peru. 1942 Oscar Maradiaga Honduran Human rights champion and peace-broker. 1942 Jorge Urosa Venezuelan 1942 Andre Vingt-Trois French Former right-hand man of flamboyant, deceased Cardinal Lustiger. Ultra-conservative. 1943 Angelo Bagnasco Italian Supports military. Has had death threats due to extreme conservatism on marital issues. 1943 Angelo Comastri Italian 1943 Leonardo Sandri Venezuelan 1943 Crescenzio Sepe Italian Purged by Ratzinger. Has called for Neapolitans to sheathe their knives and return to Christ. 1943 Jean-Louis Tauran French Has undertaken a lot of work for peace, including campaigning against Iraq War 1944 Oswald Gracias Indian 1944 John Njue Kenyan 1944 Sean O'Malley United States Humble in manner of dress for the most part, preferring Capuchin cossack over Cardinal's robes. Achieved a lot in cleaning up sexual abuse issues in the United States that have crippled Church in that country. First cardinal to embrace technologies such as blogging. 1944 Marc Ouellett Canadian Issued apology for past abuses by the Church. 1944 Jean-Pierre Ricard French 1945 Antonio Llovera Spanish “Little Ratzinger.” 1945 Vinko Puljic Croatian Croatian human rights activist in Bosnia-Herzegovina. 1945 Stanislaw Rylko Polish 1945 Christoph Schonborn Czech-Austrian Intelligent, high profile aristocratic Count. Opened evolution/intelligent design can of worms. Very rigid views. Born in Bohemia, Czech Republic. Studied under Ratzinger. Has made some gaffes in public. Alleged Fascist apologist? 1948 Peter Turkson Ghanaian 1949 Josip Bozanic Croatian 1949 Daniel DiNardo United States 1949 Francisco Ortega Mexican 1949 Odilo Scherer Brazilian Concerned for social justice. Moderate who hates showman priests. Possible future Pope. 1950 Philippe Barbarin French Super-healthy (runs marathons). Looks poor from debacle and treatment concerning ostracisation of liberal Archbishop Gaillot. 1952 Peter Erdo Hungarian Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monoclinic 39 Posted April 2, 2009 Why not take the plunge and fully register Mr Mistake? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pagad Ultimo 6 Posted April 2, 2009 Cardinal Umberto Betti, former Rector of the Pontifical Lateran University in Rome, has died on April 1, aged 87. Link He is the fifth cardinal who died just for the first four months of this year (compared to 8 cardinals who died in 2008). I am watching closely these fellows. Some kind of cardinal plague maybe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canadian Paul 97 Posted April 6, 2009 Canada's oldest bishop, Albert Sanschagrin, has died. No obit yet though, just an update on the Catholic Hierarchy site. I thought maybe he was picked on the CPDP (perhaps by me...) but apparently not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevonDeathTrip 2,358 Posted May 8, 2009 Ian Cundy, the Bishop of Peterborough has died. Amen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themaninblack 2,112 Posted May 8, 2009 Ian Cundy, the Bishop of Peterborough has died. Amen. You can say that again. I've been waiting ages for a second hit! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,641 Posted May 8, 2009 Ian Cundy, the Bishop of Peterborough has died. Amen. You can say that again. I've been waiting ages for a second hit! 'Suddenly' according to the report, so mebbe his heart gave out in the battle against the cancer, or summat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevonDeathTrip 2,358 Posted May 8, 2009 Ian Cundy, the Bishop of Peterborough has died. Amen. You can say that again. I've been waiting ages for a second hit! Well, he was on my team last year (I'm such a pioneering trendsetter!) but I dropped him to the sub's bench after he failed to take his chances to score. I must say I'm a little disappointed with my team's preformance so far this year, I hope to make amends in 2010. Anyway, I'm going abroad for a week (to Kuwait of all places), when I come back I fully expect to have scored more points. Isn't it amazing that Bobby Robson, Ted Kennedy, Bob Novak and Patrick Swayze are all still alive? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themaninblack 2,112 Posted May 8, 2009 Ian Cundy, the Bishop of Peterborough has died. Amen. You can say that again. I've been waiting ages for a second hit! Well, he was on my team last year (I'm such a pioneering trendsetter!) but I dropped him to the sub's bench after he failed to take his chances to score. I must say I'm a little disappointed with my team's preformance so far this year, I hope to make amends in 2010. Anyway, I'm going abroad for a week (to Kuwait of all places), when I come back I fully expect to have scored more points. Isn't it amazing that Bobby Robson, Ted Kennedy, Bob Novak and Patrick Swayze are all still alive? Whaddya mean, you're third! Before today, I was in glorious joint 191st place! My, you have high standards. Still, consider yourself fortunate Heaven Knows didn't pick him, otherwise he'd be over the hill and far away... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,641 Posted May 8, 2009 I too picked him before, dropped him this year and now sit powerlessly and watch 25 teams score DDP points, he's added a belated boost to my Poolofdeath performance, mind. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
