The Miser 18 Posted December 10, 2009 Can someone tell me how to upload an avatar? And I guess this is my finalized list of suggestions. Could I get some feedback?: -Dick Clark (Born 1929) An American TV Personality Weakened by previous stroke -Kelsey Grammer (Born 1955) American Actor ('Cheers', 'Frasier', 'The Simpsons') Troubled life, stress, several family members murdered on different occasions, recent heart attack -David Hasselhoff (Born 1952) American Actor ('Knight Rider', 'Baywatch') Known for alcoholism -Don Imus (Born 1940) American Radio Host Diagnosed with stage 2 prostate cancer in early 2009, stress of multiple lawsuits and controversies -Andrew Lloyd Webber (Born 1948) English Composer Prostate Cancer -Jenn Lyon (Born 1972) 'Survivor' Contestant Stage 4 Breast Cancer All excellent suggestions...none will be on the 2010 list. Try 100+ perfectly healthy people or pancreatic cancer people for this list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest_psq43_* Posted December 10, 2009 That'll be a no then! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainChorizo 1,977 Posted December 12, 2009 Probably won't get a UK Obit but for anyone in a Usa based deathpool I would suggest Peggy Rea(Long working Charecter actress with her most prominent recent roles on Dukes Of Hazzard,Step By Step and Grace Under Fire.) She turns 89 in March. This portly rotund Actress has been confined to a wheelchair most of this decade and hasn't appeared in public in years and hasn't worked on tv for nearly 11 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Unknown Man 584 Posted December 12, 2009 Gene Barry - American actor, suffered a heart attack in 2009, the same year he is to turn 90. Gene Barry died on the 9th of December 2009. So his name should be deleted as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canadian Paul 97 Posted December 12, 2009 Gene Barry - American actor, suffered a heart attack in 2009, the same year he is to turn 90. Gene Barry died on the 9th of December 2009. So his name should be deleted as well. Removed, along with Vitaly Ginzburg and Samak Sundaravej, who died in November. I also removed a couple names of that had been previously discussed as healthy, as well as Maggie Smith who has beaten breast cancer. The only other big health update was Tuli Kupferberg, who is nearly blind and required 24-hour care. Now that I've done that, I'll be updating this list with new suggestions throughout the day and I'll note my progress in this post. Apparently I'm starting all the way at August 23... Edit: Now done. Today or tomorrow I'll put up the yearly "four categories" list for everyone to discuss/comment on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Estuarian Float 97 Posted December 13, 2009 I see now that Hasselhoff and Webber are too guessy, but not Imus or Lyon? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Miser 18 Posted December 14, 2009 Gene Barry - American actor, suffered a heart attack in 2009, the same year he is to turn 90. Gene Barry died on the 9th of December 2009. So his name should be deleted as well. Removed, along with Vitaly Ginzburg and Samak Sundaravej, who died in November. I also removed a couple names of that had been previously discussed as healthy, as well as Maggie Smith who has beaten breast cancer. The only other big health update was Tuli Kupferberg, who is nearly blind and required 24-hour care. Now that I've done that, I'll be updating this list with new suggestions throughout the day and I'll note my progress in this post. Apparently I'm starting all the way at August 23... Edit: Now done. Today or tomorrow I'll put up the yearly "four categories" list for everyone to discuss/comment on. You are doing God's work (literally) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Florian Posted December 15, 2009 Some suggestions for candidates outside the UK or US: Johannes Heesters (Dutch actor, famous Nazi collaborator). He is seriously old (106) and apparently blind, somewhat deaf and incoherent in his actions. Helmut Kohl (German chancellor) had a bad fall last year and appears confused and wheelchairbound (albeit he is still young). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canadian Paul 97 Posted December 19, 2009 Here we go for this year. The following people and their illnesses/frailties are listed in full detail in the first post of this thread. To allow for ease of review by the DL committee, I have divided them into four categories and left only their names. More information can be found in the first post. Anyone's free to yell and scream at me to move people around, as it's all very subjective. Also, "questionable fame" does not mean that I think the person isn't "famous". Rather, it corresponds to whether or not I think the person will get a proper UK obit. For reference, two days short of a year from the last list: 10 of 29 (Birch, Hopper, Eunice and Edward Kennedy, Novak, Pavle, Richard, Robson, Swayze, Tsien) from Famous Enough and Sick Enough are dead and all got suitable DDP/DL obits. 12 of 115 (Blackham, Dean, Fawcett, Ginzburg, Goody, Ludovic Kennedy, Levi-Strauss, Llewellyn, Mortimer, Roberts, Sundaravej, Upward) from Famous Enough but Risky are dead. I believe that all got suitable DDP/DL obits... not sure about Blackham... 6 of 35 (Atkins, Dunne, Ejercito, Frenzel, Krulak, Xianlin) from Questionable Fame but Sick Enough are dead. Frenzel was already long dead, which speaks to his fame, and I think that of the others, only Atkins and Dunne got the obits. 7 of 44 (Ayala, Clijsters, Keel, Knoxall, Seals, Sutton, Triola) from Questionable Fame and Risky are dead. I think about half got obits... Knoxall certainly did not. So with all that, here's my analysis for next year: Famous Enough and Sick Enough: Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi José Alencar Muhammad Ali Ronnie Biggs Jane Campbell, Baroness Campbell of Surbiton Basil D'Oliveira Peter Falk Laurent Fignon Michael Foot (maybe not sick enough, but who can risk missing out on the obvious tagline here???) Betty Ford David Hart Ernie Harwell Stephen Hawking Johannes Heesters Raymond Hewlett Dennis Hopper Ray Kennedy Jack Kyle Peter MacBeth Simon MacCorkindale Edwin Morgan Roy Morrison Donald Neilson Nancy Reagan Yitzhak Shamir Ariel Sharon Sargent Shriver Mike Soper Adolfo Suarez Margaret Thatcher (maybe not as sick as most, but certainly wouldn't be a good one to miss) Abigail Van Buren Nicholas Winton Norman Wisdom Famous Enough but Risky: Steven Adler Paul Allen Patty Andrews Shoko Asahara Richard Attenborough HRH Jean Benoit Guillaume Robert Antoine Louis Marie Adolphe Marc d'Aviano Seve Ballesteros Bob Barker Martin Bashir Captain Beefheart Melissa Bell Jean-Paul Belmondo Nursat Bhutto Lionel Blue Ian Brady Algirdas Brazauskas Asa Briggs Ivor Broadis Elliott Carter Fidel Castro Frederick Chiluba Jacques Chirac Ronald Coase Winston Churchill Natalie Cole Robbie Coltrane Don Cornelius Liz Dawn Del Deanus John Demjanjuk Phyllis Diller Ronnie James Dio Fats Domino Kirk Douglas Roy Douglas Duke of Wellington Roger Ebert Blake Edwards John Edrich Eddie Fisher Andy Fordham Annette Funicello Zsa Zsa Gabor Seán Garland Terri Garr Paul Gascoigne Vo Nguyen Giap Miep Gies Ruth Bader Ginsburg Billy Graham Bryant Gumbel Larry Hagman Johnny Hallyday Abu Hamza al-Muhajir David Hasselhoff Václav Havel João Havelange Alex Higgins Lena Horne Ian Huntley Alan Igglesden Ronald Isley Warren Jeffs Frank Kelly Moss Keane Ayatollah Ali Khamenei Abdul Qadeer Khan Edgar Ray Killen B.B. King Jack Klugman Girija Prasad Koirala Bruce Langhorne Ian Lavender Jerry Lewis Princess Lilian, Duchess of Halland Greg Louganis Bernard Lovell Simon Mann Ian McCartney Mitch Miller Dom Mintoff Rita Levi Montalcini Patrick Moore Robert Mugabe Pervez Musharraf Oscar Niemeyer Roger Norrington Teodoro Obiang Nguema Isabel Peron Chapman Pincer Rosemary Pitman Terry Pratchett Erich Priebke Tul Bahadur Pun Peter Quaife Luise Rainer Lisa Ray Arthur Robinson Dora Jessie Saint Angela Scoular Edward Short, Baron Glenamara Than Shwe Vincent Siew King Norodom Sihanouk Karen Sinclair Cyril Smith Liz Smith Sonique Arlen Specter George Steinbrenner Mel Sterland Gloria Stuart Zeljko Sturanovic Sultan bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud Charles Taylor Elizabeth Taylor Jeremy Thorpe Maura Tierney Zdravko Tolimir Peter Tork Roy Ward Baker Kurt Westergaard Gough Whitlam Maurice Vincent Wilkes Robin Williams Willard Wirtz Questionable Fame but Sick Enough: Vasily Aleksanyan Al Anderson Philip Berg Isaac Bonewits Philip Carlo Mick Cocks Gene Colan Leila Denmark Angus Douglas-Hamilton, 15th Duke of Hamilton Sara Douglass Melvin Dummar Patricia Dunn Lady Fiona, The Countess Of The Arran Islands Charles E. Friedgood Daniel Geiges Rose Gray Mark Halsey Hazel Hawke Derryn Hinch Dolores Hope Ferlin Husky George Kimball Tuli Kupferberg Jenn Lyon David Marshall Ann Maxwell Ndaye Mulamba Vice Marshal Jo Myong-rok David Piper Paul Quarrington Jack Ramsay Charles Sabine Ron Santo Leonard Skinner Nyanasamvara Suvaddhana Kevin White Chris Woodhead Ethan Zohn Questionable Fame and Risky: Martin Allen Frances Bay Judith Binney Stefano Borgonovo Ernesto Fonseca Carrillo Nuon Chea Jack Chick Joe Cook Mike Craig Jay Dobyns James Joseph Dresnok Peter Dula Devi Dura Wayne Dyer Doug Fieger Dale Griffin Rob Grill Irving Kanarek Barbara Kent Jim Koerber Paul Kraus Scott LeDoux Marshall Lytle Emilio Eduardo Massera Shih Ming-te Berniece Baker Miracle Fehmi Naji Roy Neuberger Abdullah Öcalan Hiroo Onoda Barry Penner Sonia Peres Ieng Sary Willi Schludecker Riad Seif Bob Sheppard Malcolm Simmons Joe Simon Chuck Strahl Naim Süleymanoğlu Earl Wild Jan Wilson Rabbi Ovadia Yosef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BCAlum2000 42 Posted December 19, 2009 Canadian Paul: Excellent list and you did a very thorough job w/ your research! With that said, I would like to add four more names to your list: Ronnie James Dio, Robert Byrd, Tony Curtis, and James Garner. James Garner suffered a stroke a little over a year ago. He's also reportedly wheelchair bound. But they say he's fairly upbeat and doing OK so I would put him in the Famous Enough but Risky category. Tony Curtis also suffered a stroke a couple years ago. He's reportedly on the mend, but others say he's looking quite frail. Again, place him in the Famous Enough but Risky Category. Ronnie James Dio is suffering from stomach cancer. usually that's one of the deadlier forms of cancer. But they say he's still pretty active. Famous Enough but Risky? Robert Byrd is, I believe, the longest running US Senator in history. He's a very prominent politician in the United States and one of the most famous and well-known. But I admit that since deathlist.net is primarily a UK site, Byrd is of questionable fame outside the US. He's very ill, was hospitalized, is 92 years old, and doesn't have much time left. I guess put him in the Questionable Fame but Risky. Other thoughts: I think David Hasselhoff will end up being the Michael Jackson of 2010. Somehow, I think he's not going to make it, particularly w/ all his alcohol problems. I could very well see him ending up like Jacko in 2010 unless he gets serious intervention. Of course, in the past, I thought Britney Spears, Lindsay Lohan, and Amy Winehouse were all gonna die due to their issues, but they all appear to be doing much better now and I have removed them completely from consideration as death list candidates. So perhaps the Hoff can pull a Spears or Lohan and get his act back together. Or he can end up like Jacko, Heath Ledger, or Anna Nicole Smith. Dennis Hopper is awesome. but he's getting up there in age and I'm hearing his prostate cancer has gotten progressively worse. But i'm rooting for him to beat this monster. Simon MacCorkindale = Patrick Swayze of 2010. Stick a fork in him, he's done. Annette Funicello and Zsa Zsa Gabor should both be dead by now, but they are defying the odds. Zsa Zsa Gabor recently had a close call w/ death I believe earlier this year and has been near death several times in the past. Elizabeth Taylor is becoming one of the biggest death teases (along w/ Zsa Zsa). She's had illness after illness and has reportedly been on the verge of death several times, only to "miraculously" recover. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deadsox 894 Posted December 20, 2009 CP, thanks again for your well organized and thought out list. I have been holding off on my DDP team waiting for this. You have helped me in the past and I hope to benefit again from your scholarship in 2010 (wait a minute, did I just agree with BC?). Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevonDeathTrip 2,358 Posted December 20, 2009 Wow! Check out the amount of guests reading this thread (there were 73 a minute ago). I had no idea that DL was used this much for deadpooling research. I wonder if there is any mileage in setting up a premium rate "death tips" phone number? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themaninblack 2,112 Posted December 20, 2009 Wow! Check out the amount of guests reading this thread (there were 73 a minute ago). I had no idea that DL was used this much for deadpooling research. I wonder if there is any mileage in setting up a premium rate "death tips" phone number? You would certainly make a bundle, DDT... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banshees Scream 110 Posted December 21, 2009 It's just about Winter's prime and we are nearing decision time as the days are fading fast. The DL had a typical year with twelve hits in 2009, and the majority of those twelve hits were big names who were very media friendly. I guess that makes 2009 unforgettable and my aim to is make DL 2010 a more productive and entertaining year. Canadian Paul did a good job sorting out the names but this is a little more concise. (Feel free to add any of the obvious names that I neglected to mention) Here are my tips. : All of these names should be discussed by the committee. (I'm assuming Thatcher will be headlining DL 2010) Muhammad Ali Elizabeth Taylor Professor Stephen Hawking Dennis Hopper Ronnie James Dio Johannes Heesters Laurent Fignon Shaun Greatbatch Meinhardt Raabe Basil D'Oliveira Robert Sargent Shriver Phyllis Diller Vo Nguyen Giap Edward Watson Short Donald Neilson Nursat Bhutto Annette Funicello Peter Falk Frank Kelly Gore Vidal Mike Tyson Alex Higgins Yao Defen Anyonebluesman PS: What about Anna Wing or Kenneth Kendall? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canadian Paul 97 Posted December 21, 2009 Per the suggestion of several individuals, I've added Ronnie James Dio... I missed him because a) He has his own thread, which I didn't really check for and I'm really rooting for him to beat this and, for the latter reason, I've placed him in Famous but Risky. I won't be putting him on my list, but that probably means that he should go on everyone else's, after my record at guessing who's "really" terminally ill last year. It definitely wouldn't be a dumb pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themaninblack 2,112 Posted December 21, 2009 Per the suggestion of several individuals, I've added Ronnie James Dio... I missed him because a) He has his own thread, which I didn't really check for and I'm really rooting for him to beat this and, for the latter reason, I've placed him in Famous but Risky. I won't be putting him on my list, but that probably means that he should go on everyone else's, after my record at guessing who's "really" terminally ill last year. It definitely wouldn't be a dumb pick. From what I'm getting so far, Mr Dio is a popular pick for the DDP... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Richard Whitmore Posted December 21, 2009 I agree with your Mr Scream that it would be good for the DL to have a newsreader: Kendall, Richard Baker, or even my good self, have been felling a little bit overlooked of late. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,194 Posted December 21, 2009 The only thing I will say about Greatbatch is that he was on my final shortlist for some while, until I recently found out he'd returned to playing full-time darts for his county, the first news on him for some 9 months. Therefore, I presume he has recovered to some extent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevonDeathTrip 2,358 Posted December 21, 2009 Here's a list that "researchers" might be interested in. Some of the people mentioned might have recovered or died. Others might not get UK obits and I've completely forgotten who some of them are. Anyway, at some point in the past, I've considered them all for deadpools. To the person who joined DL especially to send me fan mail , this is for you: Richard Adams Steven Adler Izzat Ibrahim Al-Douri Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed Alfred C Baldwin Margot Baynes Sister Wendy Beckett Krishna Prasad Bhattarai Keith Bradshaw Jovanka Broz George Blake Raelene Boyle Oscar Brand Lord Brennan Abdelaziz Bouteflika Nusrat Bhutto Ernesto Fonseca Carrillo Mick Cocks Natalie Cole Winston Churchill Mike Craig Cahal Daly Rob Daley Margaret Delacourt-Smith Del Deanus Lord Delamere Peter Dimmock Peter Dula Queen Fabiola Princess Fawzia bint Fuad of Egypt Dr Charles E Friedgood Lord Brian Flowers Keith Floyd Alberto Fujimori Annette Funicello Sam Galbraith Martin Gardner Daniel Geiges Marshall Grant Ray Griff David Giuliano John Greenway Mark Halsey Anthony, Duke of Hamilton Richie Hayward Genaro “Chicanito” Hernandez Kristin Hallenga Alex Higgins Ken Hutcherson Josefa Iloilo Sheikh Fehmi Naji el-Imam Colin Inglis Ronald Isley Dana Jennings Kathryn Joosten Alun Gwynne Jones, Baron Chalfont Hank Jones Francine Lalonde Ron Lancaster Bruce Langhorne Lord Hutchinson of Lullington Ayatollah Ali Khamenei Candye Kane Gary Kelly Kathryn Joosten Girija Prasad Koirala Joseph Kony Lee Kun-hee Iain McColl Linda McGill Lord Roy Mason Ann Maxwell Ed Mitchell Major Berrington Mkoma Sun Myung Moon Rory Morrison Bingu Mutharikahinga Debbie Nelson John Nkomo Barry Penner Sonia Peres Ed Pickford (folkie) Rosemary Pitman Rene Preval Peter Quaife Paul Quarrington Greg Rita Jean Ritchie Alain Robert Chava Rosenfarb Ivo Sanader José Saramago Ieng Sary Suchitra Sen Gitta Sereny Riad Seif Vincent Siew Robert Simpson Beatrice Sparks Alex Stobbs Kevin Steed Patriarch Mesrob II Mutafyan of Constantinople Patriarch Nyanasamvara Suvaddhana Pope Shenouda III of Alexandria Norodom Sihanouk Paul Shrubb Than Shwe Vincent Siew Karen Sinclair Larry Stevenson Clyde Stubblefield Dame Elizabeth Svenson Adolfo Suárez Naim Süleymanoğlu Elizabeth Svenson Clark Terry Maura Tierney Waldo Thornhill Peter Tork Archbishop Desmond Tutu John Turner Grete Waitz Jan Wilson Mac Wiseman Kim Woo-choong Adam Yauch Rabbi Ovadia Yosef Emanuel E. Zeltser Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monoclinic 39 Posted December 21, 2009 Here's a list that "researchers" might be interested in. Some of the people mentioned might have recovered or died. Others might not get UK obits and I've completely forgotten who some of them are. Anyway, at some point in the past, I've considered them all for deadpools. To the person who joined DL especially to send me fan mail , this is for you: List snipped of celebs who are likely to die in the next few days owing to DDTs predictions. Blimey, I hope any obit writers out there weren't counting on a holiday this Christmas. 57 odd celebs have just been tarred with the DDT post of death! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magere Hein 1,400 Posted December 21, 2009 Can Akmal Shaikh make it to 2010? Would he count as a DL hit? regards, Hein Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChocloMan 0 Posted December 22, 2009 I nominate Dave Brubeck (as much as I love him). He's gonna turn 90 in 2010 and his wiki page says he couldn't play a concert due to a viral infection. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
time 8,599 Posted December 22, 2009 Here's a list that "researchers" might be interested in. Some of the people mentioned might have recovered or died. Others might not get UK obits and I've completely forgotten who some of them are. Anyway, at some point in the past, I've considered them all for deadpools. To the person who joined DL especially to send me fan mail , this is for you: [snip] Mick Cocks [snip] Scrub Mick Cocks (ooer missus, sounds painful). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themaninblack 2,112 Posted December 22, 2009 Deathlist still haven't provided the write up for Levi-Strauss, so who knows if we going to have deathlist for 2010... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TAFKAG 70 Posted December 22, 2009 Here's a list that "researchers" might be interested in. Some of the people mentioned might have recovered or died. Others might not get UK obits and I've completely forgotten who some of them are. Anyway, at some point in the past, I've considered them all for deadpools. To the person who joined DL especially to send me fan mail , this is for you: [snip] Mick Cocks [snip] Scrub Mick Cocks (ooer missus, sounds painful). Maybe Rose Tattoo should have their own thread - that's four dead in the past four years and five all together ... all from cancer. Watch out, Angry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
