DCI Frank Burnside 3,887 Posted October 3 Old Crem is Seb Payne and I claim my five pounds 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,137 Posted October 3 27 minutes ago, DCI Frank Burnside said: Old Crem is Seb Payne Certainly is one. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
An Fear Beag 1,535 Posted October 3 9 hours ago, Toast said: I shagged a bloke from Réunion once. That's near Mauritius. I once shagged a girl at a school Reunion. It was in a hotel near Dublin. Does that count? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,439 Posted October 3 All this shagging talk will make young Gooseberry Crumble swoon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,583 Posted October 3 11 hours ago, DCI Frank Burnside said: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c98ynejg4l5o Deal would have been practically done before the election. The Farage Reform types will be the only ones who'll kick up about this. Even Labour MP’s (Alber one with major electoral reasons for doing so) are complaining now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,583 Posted October 3 https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/30853358/keir-starmer-great-british-industry-net-zero/ I thought this was an article by Nigel Farrage at first with that headline. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,137 Posted October 4 2 hours ago, An Fear Beag said: I once shagged a girl at a school Reunion. It was in a hotel near Dublin. Does that count? Let's see if this can be kept going. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
time 8,599 Posted October 4 2 hours ago, An Fear Beag said: I once shagged a girl at a school Reunion. It was in a hotel near Dublin. Does that count? How about the girl I met in the Students' Union, does she count? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,583 Posted October 4 12 hours ago, msc said: Mauritius is a cool country and we should have been more diplomatic with them over this years ago. Too many shitheads out there to keep agro with a friendly country. My opinion. Mauritius is now a strong ally of China so that is more difficult now for many in the west to accept. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
En Passant 3,741 Posted October 4 54 minutes ago, The Old Crem said: Mauritius is now a strong ally of China so that is more difficult now for many in the west to accept. Oh shut up. You just read some headlines, decide you agree with some but not others, and post accordingly. You don't really have the faintest idea what you are talking about with the possible exception of the nationality of the workers who fixed up your parents house. Get a grip. 3 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,439 Posted October 4 3 hours ago, En Passant said: Oh shut up. You just read some headlines, decide you agree with some but not others, and post accordingly. You don't really have the faintest idea what you are talking about with the possible exception of the nationality of the workers who fixed up your parents house. Get a grip. Well actually I did research Mauritius for a DDP obit once and I came away with a deep respect for the country. Crems stance on it is deeply inaccurate and in many ways they actually put us to shame. Mauritius frequently ranks among the highest African countries on the UN civil rights list, ahead of several European countries (in 2017 a similar watchdog ranked it 17th strongest democracy on the planet). It is a parliamentary democracy based on Westminster but which has used the system to promote universal health care AND transport for the old and disabled as a basic right. It's also one of the richer African countries based on thirty years of diplomatic treaties and exports leading it to being currently one of the most peaceful countries on the planet. Under former DDP pick Anerood Jugnauth they went from a newly independent IMF backed country to a booming economy while pursuing progressive policies, converting to the green technology economy before most anyone else, and have zero tolerance for corruption. It's also a multi faith country with various freedoms including the right to be atheist even though that is a minority position. They have had diplomatic arrangements with China since 1972 when Richard Nixon began to push for that and 20 years before their full independence. They also have diplomatic relations with the EU, India, Russia, the UK and USA, on the principle that if everyone values you no one will invade. They've also been asking the West for these islands for decades but at no point have elected a nutter strongman or started a war like so many other places. Basically it's an amazing country and if people are worried about Chinese influence then the answer is stronger friendship and deals with one of the few non tinderboxes on a pretty important continent. 7 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,439 Posted October 4 You probably now know far too much about the 154th largest country on the planet. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prussianblue 1,027 Posted October 4 8 hours ago, The Old Crem said: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/30853358/keir-starmer-great-british-industry-net-zero/ I thought this was an article by Nigel Farrage at first with that headline. Only one R in Farage, like there's only one F in fuckwit. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,583 Posted October 4 I do wonder how Labour will cope trying to stop losing voters to Reform while also facing a stronger Green Party and other left/libreal parties. It’s a big challenge at the moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sly Ronnie 879 Posted October 5 On 04/10/2024 at 05:57, msc said: Well actually I did research Mauritius for a DDP obit once and I came away with a deep respect for the country. Crems stance on it is deeply inaccurate and in many ways they actually put us to shame. Mauritius frequently ranks among the highest African countries on the UN civil rights list, ahead of several European countries (in 2017 a similar watchdog ranked it 17th strongest democracy on the planet). It is a parliamentary democracy based on Westminster but which has used the system to promote universal health care AND transport for the old and disabled as a basic right. It's also one of the richer African countries based on thirty years of diplomatic treaties and exports leading it to being currently one of the most peaceful countries on the planet. Under former DDP pick Anerood Jugnauth they went from a newly independent IMF backed country to a booming economy while pursuing progressive policies, converting to the green technology economy before most anyone else, and have zero tolerance for corruption. It's also a multi faith country with various freedoms including the right to be atheist even though that is a minority position. They have had diplomatic arrangements with China since 1972 when Richard Nixon began to push for that and 20 years before their full independence. They also have diplomatic relations with the EU, India, Russia, the UK and USA, on the principle that if everyone values you no one will invade. They've also been asking the West for these islands for decades but at no point have elected a nutter strongman or started a war like so many other places. Basically it's an amazing country and if people are worried about Chinese influence then the answer is stronger friendship and deals with one of the few non tinderboxes on a pretty important continent. Sounds like Utopia! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
En Passant 3,741 Posted October 5 On 03/10/2024 at 11:44, The Old Crem said: I’m amazed Starmer has been stupid enough to hand back the Chagos islands. As if it were needed, the Guardian Editorial has now weighed in on this and whilst granted it's a rather left wing source even so it starts out fairly categorically with:- Quote More than five decades ago, Britain began forcibly displacing an entire Indigenous people from their Indian Ocean archipelago so that it could build a military base with the US. The UK itself has acknowledged that that was shameful; one rights group says it has committed crimes against humanity. It would be better for everyone, yourself most of all probably, if you were to think just a little bit before jumping in with a half-baked opinion seconds after a headline appears. Do you still maintain Starmer was 'stupid'? (notwithstanding it was hardly his sole decision). Since the admins still refuse to ban you, please at least try to join in responsibly rather than wasting everyones time with tripe. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,583 Posted October 5 13 minutes ago, En Passant said: As if it were needed, the Guardian Editorial has now weighed in on this and whilst granted it's a rather left wing source even so it starts out fairly categorically with:- It would be better for everyone, yourself most of all probably, if you were to think just a little bit before jumping in with a half-baked opinion seconds after a headline appears. Do you still maintain Starmer was 'stupid'? (notwithstanding it was hardly his sole decision). Since the admins still refuse to ban you, please at least try to join in responsibly rather than wasting everyone’s time with tripe. Not all those people wanted the islands going back to Mauritius through. Divided opinions in the community. https://inews.co.uk/news/chagos-island-fury-mauritius-uk-3309127 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
En Passant 3,741 Posted October 5 3 minutes ago, The Old Crem said: Not all those people wanted the islands going back to Mauritius through. Divided opinions in the community. https://inews.co.uk/news/chagos-island-fury-mauritius-uk-3309127 Oh for christs sakes crem, that's people complaining that we didn't go far enough with reparations to the islanders. This isn't even close to what you were saying. You're moving the goalposts yet again. And in those discussions where you can't find a way to fool even yourself you simply don't answer and move on. What goes on in your head? I did say at the start I was on a fools errand, it appears I don't learn either - insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Never argue with an idiot, they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thatcher 2,406 Posted October 6 Sue Gray has resigned - apparently moving elsewhere in government. That went well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,583 Posted October 6 2 minutes ago, Thatcher said: Sue Gray has resigned - apparently moving elsewhere in government. That went well. Wouidnt suoriseed me if that new place is Goverment is a peerage and not much else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thatcher 2,406 Posted October 6 Just now, The Old Crem said: Wouidnt suoriseed me if that new place is Goverment is a peerage and not much else. Envoy for the Nations and Regions whatever that is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,583 Posted October 6 Just now, Thatcher said: Envoy for the Nations and Regions whatever that is. A non job really. Suspect she will do that until sometime next year and then quietly leave it during a time where there is other things going on in Politics or the World so it doesn’t get noticed much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad252 807 Posted October 6 Sam Allardyce linked to taking over till the end of the parliamentary session. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
En Passant 3,741 Posted October 7 On 04/10/2024 at 05:57, msc said: Well actually I did research Mauritius for a DDP obit once and I came away with a deep respect for the country. Crems stance on it is deeply inaccurate and in many ways they actually put us to shame. Quote To be in with a shout, you have to know where Mauritius is. And most MPs wouldn’t get within 500 miles. The Indian Ocean is bigger than you think. And don’t get them started on Diego Garcia. Surely he’s the younger brother of the titular character in the 1974 Sam Peckinpah film Bring me the Head of Alfredo Garcia ETA: Though I had a reasonable stab at Mauritius, even I was a bit taken aback to discover the Chagos Islands are actually 1,300 odd miles away. If you've got 3 minutes or so read the whole article from the link, it's 1/3 enlightening, 1/3 amusing (Crawley and the Gatwick air corridor) and 1/3 a bit horrifying - or was to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,583 Posted October 8 Tugendaht gone. Cleverly now in the lead with 39 with Jenrick on 31 and Badenoch on 30. Tugendaht had 20. Hard to tell who wins the membership out Cleverly and Jenrick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
