Bibliogryphon 9,586 Posted October 8 11 minutes ago, The Old Crem said: Tugendaht gone. Cleverly now in the lead with 39 with Jenrick on 31 and Badenoch on 30. Tugendaht had 20. Hard to tell who wins the membership out Cleverly and Jenrick. I am presuming most of the 20 who voted for TT will switch to Cleverly. However the membership are an odd bunch who choose Truss over Sunak. Have they learnt their lesson? I don't think the second placed candidate will pull out and allow for a simple coronation because the membership will need to be part of any rebuild project. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,141 Posted October 8 What a choice. Jimmy Dimly, Jenprick or BadEnough. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
En Passant 3,741 Posted October 8 Quote its interesting, though not surprising, that the media think that comms is the problem. No, the problem is the fact that on the one hand Starmer and his top team have accepted hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of gifts etc.. while on the other telling the people on the margins of society that they have to make do, and that there is no money left to help them. You would think with a new 3K pair of glasses he would be able to see how bad this looks. BTL grauniad comment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,647 Posted October 8 6 hours ago, Bibliogryphon said: I am presuming most of the 20 who voted for TT will switch to Cleverly. However the membership are an odd bunch who choose Truss over Sunak. Have they learnt their lesson? I don't think the second placed candidate will pull out and allow for a simple coronation because the membership will need to be part of any rebuild project. Likely TT's voters have had their collective ears mightily bent, the main thing to ponder for neutrals is whether this party still has the sense of its own self-worth and the number of MPs to do the usual politicing up to the end. crudely, does JC have enough of a lead that he'd lend votes and get others to encourage TT supporters to vote for RJ, the point being to stop KB getting to the last two where she's fancied to be a capable winner. If it's the two remaining lads you think JC would walk it but RJ may find himself rewarded with a really good shadow cabinet job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AstroKat 534 Posted October 9 Jenrick & Badenoch through to the membership, Cleverly out. Badenoch 42 Jenrick 41 Cleverly 37 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,647 Posted October 9 Cleverly toast - nobody saw that coming, surely ONE vote in it between him and Jenrick, Kemi clearly out front 120 votes - one abstention being Rishi Sunak Just a guess, Cleverly lent a few votes too many to Jenrick in the hopes of seeing off Badenoch 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,605 Posted October 9 The Tory Party is going to be a mess for the entire term i suspect. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Commtech Sio Bibble 2,047 Posted October 9 Shit. The two remaining candidates were my least favourites when all the candidates were announced, not that I had a favourite to begin with. Badenoch is a vile, far-right nut and Jenrick is an untrustworthy slimeball. She is completely detestable in my eyes, so I think I'd prefer Jenrick only because he's more likely to get himself involved in a career ending scandal and require them to have to get another new leader. I'd never vote Tory anyway but there isn't even the tiniest glimmer of hope anymore. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad252 807 Posted October 9 Time for this classic again I think: Robert Jenrick is MP for Newark, which is also an anagram of his nickname. 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sod's Law 447 Posted October 9 Eww, imagine having to vote for either of these people. I'd rather hammer my face against a bed of nails till there was nothing left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,141 Posted October 9 Watch them team up with Reform. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sod's Law 447 Posted October 9 Shadow Home Secretary Braverman incoming... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,605 Posted October 9 15 minutes ago, Sod's Law said: Shadow Home Secretary Braverman incoming... Would Badenoch appoint her. She is the favourite with the bookies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCI Frank Burnside 3,887 Posted October 9 2 hours ago, maryportfuncity said: Cleverly toast - nobody saw that coming, surely ONE vote in it between him and Jenrick, Kemi clearly out front 120 votes - one abstention being Rishi Sunak Just a guess, Cleverly lent a few votes too many to Jenrick in the hopes of seeing off Badenoch Grant Shapps aka Sebastian Fox aka Corrine Stockheath aka Michael Green was his campaign manager so this would check out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,605 Posted October 9 Equally with how low’s Starmer approval rating is now it won’t possibly take that much for Badenoch or Jenrick to become PM after the next election. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JQW 283 Posted October 9 Nurse! Nurse! He's posting politics again! 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted October 9 Badenoch seems to be the favourite of the members, but there are concerns she's the next Liz Truss given her poor media performances. One can only hope. What an absolute fucking shit show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,605 Posted October 9 55 minutes ago, RoverAndOut said: Badenoch seems to be the favourite of the members, but there are concerns she's the next Liz Truss given her poor media performances. One can only hope. What an absolute fucking shit show. With how Labour has started nobody should be assuming any result in 2029 can’t happen. Things are going to get wilder and unpredictable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,647 Posted October 9 1 hour ago, RoverAndOut said: Badenoch seems to be the favourite of the members, but there are concerns she's the next Liz Truss given her poor media performances. One can only hope. What an absolute fucking shit show. Yeah, doubtless the vote went down really well at Labour HQ, the best news they've had in a few weeks 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,605 Posted October 9 Just now, maryportfuncity said: Yeah, doubtless the vote went down really well at Labour HQ, the best news they've had in a few weeks I imagine it did but hopefully not too arrogant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sly Ronnie 885 Posted October 9 4 hours ago, The Old Crem said: Equally with how low’s Starmer approval rating is now it won’t possibly take that much for Badenoch or Jenrick to become PM after the next election. Yeah, only the 160 odd gains to be the largest party and the hope that somehow the Liberal Democrat vote will collapse as well. Other than that, a cinch! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted October 9 1 hour ago, The Old Crem said: With how Labour has started nobody should be assuming any result in 2029 can’t happen. Things are going to get wilder and unpredictable. 52 minutes ago, The Old Crem said: I imagine it did but hopefully not too arrogant. With the greatest of respect, will you kindly shut the fuck up? Your perpetual soul-crushing pessimism is matched only by the utter garbage of your political understanding. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JQW 283 Posted October 9 He's "occy" from Digital Spy, isn't he? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,605 Posted October 10 16 hours ago, JQW said: He's "occy" from Digital Spy, isn't he? I’m not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,605 Posted October 10 The Tories are changing their rules so a VONC in their leader requires 30% of the Parliamentary party. https://order-order.com/2024/10/10/tories-raise-threshold-for-no-confidence-vote-but-just-36-mps-can-remove-leader/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
