Political Frailty

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6 hours ago, Clorox Bleachman said:

Oh really? That's an interesting coincidence, the ages matched up. I doubt either of them would be on the list nowadays.

Sen. Tim Johnson had a cerebral aneurysm in mid December 2006 and everyone thought he was going to die. As it is it took him nearly a year to recover. If that happened to any US senator this December you can bet they’d be on next year’s list. 

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On 04/05/2022 at 09:53, Ulitzer95 said:

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Western Bloc

Australia
Elizabeth II (b. 1926)
Paul Keating (b. 1944)

Belgium
Mark Eyskens (b. 1933)

Canada
Elizabeth II (b. 1926)
Joe Clark (b. 1939)
Brian Mulroney (b. 1939)

Denmark
Margrethe II (b. 1940)

France
Laurent Fabius (b. 1946)
Édith Cresson (b. 1934)

Greece
Constantine II (b. 1940)
Christos Sartzetakis (b. 1929)

Iceland
Vigdís Finnbogadóttir (b. 1930)
Porsteinn Palsson (b. 1947)
Davíd Oddsson (b. 1948)

Iran
Ali Khamenei (b. 1939)
Abolhassan Banisadr (b. 1933)
Mir-Hossein Mousavi (b. 1942)

Iraq
NONE

Italy
Arnaldo Forlani (b. 1925)
Ciriaco De Mita (b. 1928)

Luxembourg
Jacques Santer (b. 1937)

The Netherlands
Beatrix (b. 1938)
Dries van Agt (b. 1931)

New Zealand
Elizabeth II (b. 1926)
Geoffrey Palmer (b. 1942)
Jim Bolger (b. 1935)

Norway
Harald V (b. 1937)
Gro Harlem Brundtland (b. 1939)
Kåre Willoch (b. 1928)

Pakistan
Elizabeth II (b. 1926)
Nawaz Sharif (b. 1949)

Philippines
NONE

Portugal
António Ramalho Eanes (b. 1935)
Francisco Pinto Balsemão (b. 1937)
Aníbal Cavaco Silva (b. 1939)

Spain
Juan Carlos I (b. 1938)
Felipe González (b. 1942)

Thailand
Thanin Kraivichien (b. 1927)
Anand Panyarachun (b. 1932)

Turkey
NONE

United Kingdom
Elizabeth II (b. 1926)
John Major (b. 1943)

United States
Jimmy Carter (b. 1924)

West Germany
NONE

Eastern Bloc

Albania
Fatos Nano (b. 1952)
Ylli Bufi (b. 1948)
Vilson Ahmeti (b. 1951)

Bulgaria
Georgi Atanasov (b. 1933)
Philip Dimitrov (b. 1955)

Byelorussia
Nikolay Slyunkov (b. 1929)
Yefrem Sokolov (b. 1926)
Stanislav Shushkevich (b. 1934)

Czechoslovakia
Karel Urbánek (b. 1941)
Lubomír Štrougal (b. 1924)
Marián Čalfa (b. 1946)

East Germany
Egon Krenz (b. 1937)
Sabine Bergmann-Pohl (b. 1946)
Hans Modrow (b. 1928)
Lothar de Maizière (b. 1940)

Hungary
Mátyás Szurös (b. 1933)

Poland
Lech Wałesa (b. 1943)
Jan Krzysztof Bielecki (b. 1951)

Romania
NONE

Soviet Union
Mikhail Gorbachev (b. 1931)
Nikolai Ryzhkov (b. 1929)
Ivan Silayev (b. 1930)

Ukraine
Leonid Kravchuk (b. 1934)
Vitold Fokin (b. 1932)

Updated list of surviving Cold War leaders following the death of Shushkevich.

Seems he died from COVID-19.

After the death of Kravchuck, Ukraine is now down to one Fokin guy.

[Ulitzer95 12,576]

On 16/09/2021 at 21:20, Ulitzer95 said:

Ok, said I'd take a look at this and it's not a perfect list by any means but here are the surviving heads of state and government from the Cold War (12 March 1947 – 26 December 1991).

I've stuck to the main participants of the Cold War as defined on this Wiki page (i.e. the Eastern and Western Blocs), as opposed to spreading this too thinly and covering every single country who played a role in an event(s) of the period.
 

Spoiler

Western Bloc

Australia
Elizabeth II (b. 1926)
Paul Keating (b. 1944)

Belgium
Mark Eyskens (b. 1933)

Canada
Elizabeth II (b. 1926)
Joe Clark (b. 1939)
Brian Mulroney (b. 1939)

Denmark
Margrethe II (b. 1940)

France
Laurent Fabius (b. 1946)
Édith Cresson (b. 1934)

Greece
Constantine II (b. 1940)
Christos Sartzetakis (b. 1929)

Iceland
Vigdís Finnbogadóttir (b. 1930)
Porsteinn Palsson (b. 1947)
Davíd Oddsson (b. 1948)

Iran
Ali Khamenei (b. 1939)
Abolhassan Banisadr (b. 1933)
Mir-Hossein Mousavi (b. 1942)

Iraq
NONE

Italy
Arnaldo Forlani (b. 1925)
Ciriaco De Mita (b. 1928)

Luxembourg
Jacques Santer (b. 1937)

The Netherlands
Beatrix (b. 1938)
Dries van Agt (b. 1931)

New Zealand
Elizabeth II (b. 1926)
Geoffrey Palmer (b. 1942)
Jim Bolger (b. 1935)

Norway
Harald V (b. 1937)
Gro Harlem Brundtland (b. 1939)
Kåre Willoch (b. 1928)

Pakistan
Elizabeth II (b. 1926)
Nawaz Sharif (b. 1949)

Philippines
NONE

Portugal
António Ramalho Eanes (b. 1935)
Francisco Pinto Balsemão (b. 1937)
Aníbal Cavaco Silva (b. 1939)

Spain
Juan Carlos I (b. 1938)
Felipe González (b. 1942)

Thailand
Thanin Kraivichien (b. 1927)
Anand Panyarachun (b. 1932)

Turkey
NONE

United Kingdom
Elizabeth II (b. 1926)
John Major (b. 1943)

United States
Jimmy Carter (b. 1924)

West Germany
NONE

Eastern Bloc

Albania
Fatos Nano (b. 1952)
Ylli Bufi (b. 1948)
Vilson Ahmeti (b. 1951)

Bulgaria
Georgi Atanasov (b. 1933)
Philip Dimitrov (b. 1955)

Byelorussia
Nikolay Slyunkov (b. 1929)
Yefrem Sokolov (b. 1926)
Stanislav Shushkevich (b. 1934)

Czechoslovakia
Karel Urbánek (b. 1941)
Lubomír Štrougal (b. 1924)
Marián Čalfa (b. 1946)

East Germany
Egon Krenz (b. 1937)
Sabine Bergmann-Pohl (b. 1946)
Hans Modrow (b. 1928)
Lothar de Maizière (b. 1940)

Hungary
Mátyás Szurös (b. 1933)

Poland
Lech Wałesa (b. 1943)
Jan Krzysztof Bielecki (b. 1951)

Romania
Ion Iliescu (b. 1930)

Soviet Union
Mikhail Gorbachev (b. 1931)
Nikolai Ryzhkov (b. 1929)
Ivan Silayev (b. 1930)

Ukraine
Leonid Kravchuk (b. 1934)
Vitold Fokin (b. 1932)

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It seems like a long list, but it's really not when you consider that 95% of Cold War leaders are dead.

Romania, West Germany, Turkey, the Philippines and Iraq are the only countries with no survivors. The USA to be the next?

52 names remaining. How many more can Elizabeth II outlive?

 

Updated for the death of Kravchuk.

[arghton 6,695]

Karim Djoudi, Algeria's Minister of Finance 2007-2014 who froze Gaddafi's assets in Algeria dead at 63:

https://www.aps.dz/en/algeria/43618-death-of-karim-djoudi-mohamed-alleg-president-tebboune-extends-condolences

[arghton 6,695]

Robert McFarlane, Reagan's National Security Advisor 1983-1985 dead at 84 from lung complications:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/obituaries/2022/05/13/robert-bud-mcfarlane-iran-contra-dead/

Richard V. Allen, 86 and John Poindexter, 85 alive from Reagan's NSAs. 

[arghton 6,695]

US politician John Fetterman hospitalised after suffering a stroke but expected to make a full recovery. Mentioned on the DL forums six times before, five of them in Biden's thread in April

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13 hours ago, arghton said:

US politician John Fetterman hospitalised after suffering a stroke but expected to make a full recovery. Mentioned on the DL forums six times before, five of them in Biden's thread in April

US politician Chris Van Hollen hospitalized after suffering a stroke but expected to make a full recovery.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/15/politics/maryland-senator-van-hollen-stroke/index.html

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20 hours ago, Captain Hemlock said:

US politician Chris Van Hollen hospitalized after suffering a stroke but expected to make a full recovery.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/15/politics/maryland-senator-van-hollen-stroke/index.html

Just wondering why you quoted another post that had nothing to do with yours.  

[arghton 6,695]

On 09/07/2021 at 15:00, arghton said:

https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/national/2021-07-09-joburg-mayor-geoff-makhubo-dies-of-covid-complications/

Geoff Makhubo, mayor of South Africa's largest city Johannesburg from 2019 until today dead at 53 from covid.

Mpho Moerane, former mayor of Johannesburg (2021) dead in a car crash. He became the mayor after his predecessor Jolidee Matongo died in a car crash in September and served until November 2021. 

[drol 11,913]

Nothing too serious it seems, but Juan Ponce Enrile is currently hospitalised.

[arghton 6,695]

On 01/05/2022 at 19:44, arghton said:

IRAQ

Mukarram Talabani (1925) Irrigation Minister 1972-1977, later Minister of Transport. Lost his political power during Saddam's dictatorship.

Sami Azara al-Majun (1932) Minister of Social and Labor Affairs 2003-2004

Muthaffar al-Nawab (1934) Dissident since the 1950s and has had to pay a great price for it.

Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf (1937) "Comical Ali"/"Baghdad Bob", Foreign Affairs Minister 1992-2001 and Media Minister 2001-2003. Suffering from cancer for ages.

Mahmoud Othman (1938)

Fuad Masum (1938) President of Iraq 2014-2018

Amer Mohammad Rashid (1939) Saddam's oil minister.

Mufid Mohammad Jawad al-Jazairi (1939) Minister of Culture in the interim govt.

Jalal Dabagh (1939) Iraqi Kurdish politician.

Osama Tawfiq al-Tikriti (1939)

Muthaffar al-Nawab, Iraqi dissident politician and poet dead at 88 in the UAE. 

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Giorgio Napolitano in ICU after "delicate" surgery, but his conditions are "not worrying".

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21.05.2022 the Russian Foreign Ministry published a list of US citizens, which include cases of personal punishment, including a ban on entry into the Russian Federation

 

List of the deceased (to be updated)

 

Alcee Lamar Hastings - member of the House of Representatives from the Democratic Party (State of Florida) (deceased April 6, 2021)

number 149

 

Melissa Anne Drisko - First Deputy Director of the United States Department of Defense Intelligence Agency (deceased November 14, 2018)

number 255

 

John Sidney McCain III - member of the Senate from the Republican Party (Arizona) in 1987-2018, Chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee 2015-20 (passed away 25 August 2018)

number 475

 

Steven Thomas O’Neill - judge of Montgomery County, Pennsylvania (deceased January 16, 2018)

number 577

 

Harry Mason Reid - Democratic Senator from Nevada (1987-2017), Senate Democratic Majority Leader (until 2015, died December 28, 2021)

number 648

 

Jeremy Sivits - retired military (deceased January 16, 2022)

number 703

 

Оrrin Grant Hatch - Republican Senator from Utah (deceased April 23, 2022)

number 906

 

https://www.mid.ru/ru/maps/us/1814243/

[drol 11,913]

On 15/05/2022 at 23:58, arghton said:

US politician John Fetterman hospitalised after suffering a stroke but expected to make a full recovery. Mentioned on the DL forums six times before, five of them in Biden's thread in April

Discharged.

[arghton 6,695]

https://news-eleven.com/article/231130

U Zaw Htay, Myanmar/Burma President's Office Spokesman 2011-2016 and Director General of the State Counsellor's (Aung San Suu Kyi) Office 2016-2021 dead at 48 from "a heart attack". Controversial guy who originally worked for Prime Minister Soe Win (1947-2007) and held a lot of power during the ten years before the coup last year.

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Ilkka Suominen (Wiki), Finland's minister of trade and industry 1987–1991 and chairman of the National Coalition Party 1979–1991, dead at 83.

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On 16/05/2022 at 13:22, Captain Hemlock said:

US politician Chris Van Hollen hospitalized after suffering a stroke but expected to make a full recovery.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/15/politics/maryland-senator-van-hollen-stroke/index.html

Discharged.

[Ulitzer95 12,576]

On 24/01/2020 at 19:56, Ulitzer95 said:

As promised, a list of WWII veterans from the British establishment. Much shorter than the U.S. one, but I can't promise it's complete as there is no one "go to" to get this info. Here goes:

Royal family
*Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh (b. 1921)
*Queen Elizabeth II (b. 1926)

Members of the House of Lords (includes current and former, including all hereditaries who lost seats in 1999 reform)
*9th Viscount Falmouth (b. 1919)
*21st Baron Saye and Sele (b. 1920)
*Lord Michael Shaw (b. 1920)
*Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh (b. 1921, also listed above)
*Baroness Jill Knight (b. 1923)
*Baroness Pamela Sharples (b. 1923)
*11th Earl of Elgin (b. 1924)
*Lord Tony Christopher (b. 1925)
*Lord John Eden (b. 1925)
*Lord Ted Graham (b. 1925)
*3rd Baron Wakehurst (b. 1925)
*9th Baron Walsingham (b. 1925)
*8th Marquess of Ailesbury (b. 1926)
*13th Earl of Airlie (b. 1926)

Members of Parliament
*Sir Patrick Duffy (b. 1920) Labour
*Lord Michael Shaw (b. 1920) Conservative
*Baroness Jill Knight (b. 1923, also listed above) Conservative
*James Ramsden (b. 1923) Conservative
*Eric Cockeram (b. 1924) Conservative
*Ben Ford (b. 1925) Labour
*Lord John Eden (b. 1925, also listed above) Conservative
*Lord Ted Graham (b. 1925, also listed above) Labour

Only 14 names altogether 

Note: Ron Atkins (b. 1916) did not serve because of psoriasis

Telegraph death notice for Baroness Pamela Sharples (wiki) who has died aged 99.

Means that there are now no former female MPs or peers who are older than the Queen.

It also leaves the Queen as the last female establishment figure who served in WWII.

Sharples was a tough old cookie and I thought she may have seen 100. Drove lorries during WWII, still drinking champers and playing golf at 91. In her late 80s she took a swing at a cyclist who nearly ran her over. Aged 90 she survived pneumonia after being hospitalised for 6 weeks (including 3 days in intensive care). Quite the character. They don't make them like that anymore!



Just 10 WWII vets remaining from Parliament and the monarchy.

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She was also the widow of Richard Sharples, the British governor of Bermuda who was assassinated in the 70s.

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Richard Sung Hong "Dickie" Wong...quite a mouthful, former state senate president of Hawaii and a "powerbroker" dead at 88:

https://www.staradvertiser.com/2022/05/24/hawaii-news/richard-sung-hong-dickie-wong-1933-2022-longtime-power-broker-in-legislature-was-a-target-of-broken-trust/

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8 hours ago, gcreptile said:

Richard Sung Hong "Dickie" Wong...quite a mouthful, former state senate president of Hawaii and a "powerbroker" dead at 88:

https://www.staradvertiser.com/2022/05/24/hawaii-news/richard-sung-hong-dickie-wong-1933-2022-longtime-power-broker-in-legislature-was-a-target-of-broken-trust/

 

Dickie Wong? No...I'm not that childish... 

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US politician Josh Stein hospitalized after a stroke but expected to make a full recovery.
 

 

https://www.wral.com/nc-attorney-general-josh-stein-hospitalized-after-stroke/20297786/?version=amp

[arghton 6,695]

On 12/02/2022 at 01:40, arghton said:

 

On 03/12/2021 at 20:56, arghton said:

https://www.ceskenoviny.cz/zpravy/zalobci-musi-znovu-rozhodnout-o-strougalovi-a-vajnarovi/2127193

Turns out that the experts who did the report on the health of Lubomír Štrougal and Vratislav Vajnar were both connected with the communist regime and were likely biased. Seems like there's also newly found evidence against these two.

ttps://www.memoryandconscience.eu/2022/02/02/german-investigation-into-former-communist-czechoslovak-officials-continues/

New reports on Lubomir Strougal's and Vratislav Vajnar's conditions ordered to be completed by the end of March. 

https://ct24.ceskatelevize.cz/domaci/3492628-policie-stiha-komunistickeho-exministra-kincla-kvuli-strelbe-pohranicniku

Latest on this:

The report is made by the Bohnice Psychiatric Hospital, which was due to be submitted by March. "Expert opinions have not yet been prepared. The deadline for the end of the investigation has been postponed to June 5, 2022, "said Aleš Cimbala, a spokesman for the council, two weeks ago.

 

Along with 97-year-old former Prime Minister of Czechoslovakia Lubomir Strougal and 91-year-old former Interior Minister Vratislav Vajnar also Jan Fojtík, 94-year-old former parliament member and "leading party ideologist" will be examined. 

 

I guess it'll be postponed again a few times until Strougal dies.

[MortalCaso 1,624]

I am not a conspiracy theory kinda person or anything.....

 

It does seem odd that 3 notable U.S politicians all have strokes within such a short time-frame

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1 minute ago, MortalCaso said:

I am not a conspiracy theory kinda person or anything.....

 

It does seem odd that 3 notable U.S politicians all have strokes within such a short time-frame

Actually 4 , if you go back to March with Ben Ray Lujan.