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Finally it's time to solve some mysteries.


I joined a group that talks only about Italian cinema and there were posts made by a film historian to whom I wrote privately and he told me that "the searches are based on the death records that every Italian city has, it really takes time but it's worth it "

 

So here are some dead names that are no more and have been discovered (some are also mentioned in other threads)

  • Maria Dominiani (Wiki)  b. 10.05.1913  †  10.12.1993    Link
  • Alfredo Varelli (Wiki)  b. 31.08.1914  †  18.08.1996       Link
  • Lilia Dale (Wiki)  b. 18.07.1919  †  03.12.1991                Link
  • Carlo Giustini (Wiki)  b. 04.05.1923  †  26.10.2005        Link
  • Giulio Donnini (Wiki)  b. 17.02.1924  †  22.05.2001        Link
  • Xenia Valderi (Wiki)  b. 21.01.1926  †  03.11.2008         Link
  • Tania Weber (Wiki)  b. 18.08.1926  †  20.11.2009          Link
  • Rossana Rory (Wiki)  b.  07.09.1927  †  01.04.2020       Link / source
  • Clara Bindi (Wiki)  b.  01.11.1927  †  24.02.2022             Link
  • Fiorella Mari (Wiki)  b.  21.06.1928  †  02.03.1983           Link
  • Luisa Rivelli (Wiki)  b. 10.02.1930  †  12.06.2013             Link
  • Eloisa Cianni (Wiki)  b.  21.06.1932  †  27.05.2022           Link
  • Marisa Belli (Wiki)  b. 12.04.1933  †  09.12.2017              Link
  • Edda Ferronao (Wiki)  b. 08.06.1934  †  25.01.1986          Link
  • Rosy Mazzacurati (Wiki)  b. 09.05. 1936  †  16.10.2020    Link         
  • Dina De Santis (Wiki)  b. 21.12.1943  †  04.12.1985           Link 
  • Riccardo Salvino (Wiki)  b. 29.03.1944  †  12.01.1999        
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Gisooo, that's amazing work. Congrats to everyone who participated!

 

I'm shockes by how many of them died without a single notice. Bindi, Rory, Rivelli and Belli were kind of famous, so that's negatively impressing.

 

An IP continued ti edit Belli's page in 2017 as she had died. No source ever surfaced. Thank you again and I hope their wiki pages will be amended soon.

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Thanks Gisoo. I've updated all of them (apart from Salvino as there's no source).

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@Gisooo, maybe the film historian who has cracked all of the above would have answers on the Italian film personalities below? I believe they're all probably dead.

*Adriana Sivieri (wiki, b. 1918) Argentine-born Italian film actress, voice dubber.
*Fioretta Dolfi (wiki, b. 1920) Italian film and stage actress.
*Lucio De Caro (wiki, b. 1922) Italian film director and screenwriter. Some unreliable sources suggest he died in 2008.
*Marcello Andrei (wiki, b. 1922) Italian film director and screenwriter.
*Aldo Scavarda (wiki, b. 1923) Italian cinematographer.
*Roberto Mauri (wiki, b. 1924?) Italian actor, director and screenwriter. Some unreliable sources suggest he died in 2007, others say 2017.
*Tullio Altamura (wiki, b. 1924) Italian spaghetti western actor.
*Pier Ludovico Pavoni (wiki, b. 1926 or 1927) Italian cinematographer and director.

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I asked him for Sivieri and Altamura, gonna ask for others, let's hope!

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American politician Doris Johnson (wiki) seems to be a popular pick on the 20/20 pool.

According to her own family's tree on Ancestry though, she died on June 27, 2021 (aged 98) in Kennewick, Washington. No obit seems to have been published for her.

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 @Gisooo, is there an entry for her on Accurint?

 @Bibliogryphon, serves you right for stealing that pick from @Summer in Transylvania! :lol:

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To be fair no she is marked as alive, but it may be true she is dead! In Accurint it happens when familiar don't want to deregister their deceased or make it public like Miiko Taka who is still alive there!

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I just did a little research and discovered some American names (off radar)

 

  • William H. Bywater (Wiki), labor union leader known for working at the Ford Instrument Company plant in Long Island, and joined the United Electrical, Radio and Machine Workers of America dead in 2018 at the age of 98
  • Anita Foss (Wiki), All-American Girls Professional Baseball League ballplayer dead in 2015 at the age of 93
  • Robert C. Prim (Wiki), mathematician and computer scientist dead in 2021 at the age of 100
  • Henry Simon (Wiki), United States Air Force major general who served as deputy director of the Defense Supply Agency dead in 2016 at the age of 95
  • Thomas Vietorisz (Wiki), economist who specialized in urban planning dead in 2019 at the age of 93
  • Jeanne Baird (Wiki), actress from Golden Age of Hollywood appeared in Ben Casey, Bonanza and Perry Mason dead in 2020 at the age of 93
  • Edward J. Megarr (Wiki), major general in the United States Marine Corps dead in 2019 at the age of 91
  • Robert C. Nichols (Wiki), educational psychologist and twin researcher dead in 2017 at the age of 90
  • Clyde Golden (Wiki), baseball player in the Negro leagues dead in 2017 at the age of 88
  • William Henderson (Wiki), sports shooter who represented the United States Virgin Islands dead in 2013 at the age of 84
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The Records

 

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28 minutes ago, Gisooo said:

The Records

 

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Got to question you on this one... Olympedia says his middle name was Jackson. Therefore he'd be WILLIAM J HENDERSON, not WILLIAM M HENDERSON?

Either way, both William and Henderson are common American names. I'm not sure how you could match a famous individual to a record unless the record had the individual's DOB listed (and in this case it doesn't – it just states a year).

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38 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:


Got to question you on this one... Olympedia says his middle name was Jackson. Therefore he'd be WILLIAM J HENDERSON, not WILLIAM M HENDERSON?

Either way, both William and Henderson are common American names. I'm not sure how you could match a famous individual to a record unless the record had the individual's DOB listed (and in this case it doesn't – it just states a year).

 

Perhaps, they both were born on November

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7 hours ago, Ulitzer95 said:


Got to question you on this one... Olympedia says his middle name was Jackson. Therefore he'd be WILLIAM J HENDERSON, not WILLIAM M HENDERSON?

Either way, both William and Henderson are common American names. I'm not sure how you could match a famous individual to a record unless the record had the individual's DOB listed (and in this case it doesn't – it just states a year).

Henderson was still alive in 2018 according to his sister's obit: https://www.dignitymemorial.com/en-ca/obituaries/ft-collins-co/nancy-fischer-7963121.

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Prolific Italian actor Tullio Altamura died June 6 2005. Here's the link: https://necrologie.repubblica.it/necrologi/2005/510018-altamura-tullio

Also now confirmed in the Italian wiki.

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5 hours ago, Gisooo said:

 

I saw it this but I thought it wasn't him


I don't think it is. I seem to recall finding another death notice for this same individual that said this Tullio Altamura was in his 20s/30s so different person, same name. I've removed it from Italian Wiki.

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Found some off radar names

 

Foreign

Bimo Fakja (Wiki) - Albanian football player who played for Vllaznia dead on Feb 15, 1982

Krishna Dhar (Wiki) - Indian poet dead in 2022

Pierre Gossez (Wiki) - French musician dead in 2001

Dagmar Droysen-Reber (Wiki) - German musicologist dead in 2020

 

American

Dick Stewart (Wiki) - TV host and actor dead in 2019, FB post

Geroge Herman (Wiki) - playwright and writer dead in 2019

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9 hours ago, Gisooo said:

Found some off radar names

 

Foreign

Bimo Fakja (Wiki) - Albanian football player who played for Vllaznia dead on Feb 15, 1982

Krishna Dhar (Wiki) - Indian poet dead in 2022

Pierre Gossez (Wiki) - French musician dead in 2001

Dagmar Droysen-Reber (Wiki) - German musicologist dead in 2020

 

American

Dick Stewart (Wiki) - TV host and actor dead in 2019, FB post

Geroge Herman (Wiki) - playwright and writer dead in 2019


The source for Fakja just goes to his Wiki?

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5 hours ago, Ulitzer95 said:


The source for Fakja just goes to his Wiki?

 

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19 hours ago, Gisooo said:

Found some off radar names

 

Foreign

Bimo Fakja (Wiki) - Albanian football player who played for Vllaznia dead on Feb 15, 1982

Krishna Dhar (Wiki) - Indian poet dead in 2022

Pierre Gossez (Wiki) - French musician dead in 2001

Dagmar Droysen-Reber (Wiki) - German musicologist dead in 2020

 

American

Dick Stewart (Wiki) - TV host and actor dead in 2019, FB post

Geroge Herman (Wiki) - playwright and writer dead in 2019

Never mind 'Dying off the radar', most, if not all, of these have must have been living off the radar too.

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American jazz saxophone player Vi Redd (Wiki), dead last year at 91, sadly can't find any obituary

 

She was highly regarded as an accomplished veteran who has performed with Count Basie, Rahsaan Roland Kirk, Linda Hopkins, Marian McPartland and Dizzy Gillespie.

 

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2 hours ago, Gisooo said:

American jazz saxophone player Vi Redd (Wiki), dead last year at 91, sadly can't find any obituary

 

She was highly regarded as an accomplished veteran who has performed with Count Basie, Rahsaan Roland Kirk, Linda Hopkins, Marian McPartland and Dizzy Gillespie.

 

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Exceot whoever you have on that bottom screen May not be her.  She was getting plenty of ‘Happy 94TH Birthday’ wishes on Facebook in Sept 2022. 
 

https://fb.watch/mfnUhwNpSD/?mibextid=qC1gEa

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1 minute ago, Sir Creep said:


Exceot whoever you have on that bottom screen must not be her.  She was getting plenty of ‘Happy 94TH Birthday’ wishes on Facebook in Sept 2022.  I’m not saying she was alive but I am saying she wasn’t 91.

 

Now that you just said that, I should believe you!

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