YoungWillz 20,891 Posted July 28, 2022 3 hours ago, An Fear Beag said: Oi! You cheeky fucker. Read the first post in the pool. "No-one counts the scores for ages. Everyone gets confused or annoyed or both, and at the end of the year, a seemingly random winner is announced." This pool does exactly as it says on the tin! Ok then! Bernard Cribbins a hit for me here! Give me points or not! 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gooseberry Crumble 5,318 Posted August 8, 2022 Olivia Newton John is a 'hit' for me in this pool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
An Fear Beag 1,505 Posted August 10, 2022 On 28/07/2022 at 11:14, YoungWillz said: Ok then! Bernard Cribbins a hit for me here! Give me points or not! Just so you know that I have not completely abandoned this pool, I have been keeping up with all of the hits and who has selected them. The scoring system for this pool is really complicated and its fairly time-consuming to keep it up to date. However, it is being gradually done, even if I am a little behind. I hope to have updated scores in the next week or so. As I have a team in this pool, I pass any decisions on scoring over to the previous host @Clorox Bleachmanwho kindly agreed to be the adjudicator on any potential points of contention, especially relating to the hidden bonuses. I am currently awaiting decisions on Boris Pahor and Jean-Louis Trintignant, and once I have them, I can move on to the more recent hits. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
An Fear Beag 1,505 Posted August 14, 2022 So, where are we with this pool? Lets see - the last hit scored on here was June Brown of 3rd April. Probably about time we had another update then. By my counting we have had 19 hits since then, so there is a lot of scoring and adding up to be done. I won't manage to get all of the update into this one post - I may not even get it all done tonight. But lets make a start anyhow. There are a few items of house-keeping to be done before we get down to business. First up, we have the issue of Natty Wailer. Died on 30th March, but so far no QO in the DDP. In the 2020 scoring, I allowed hits that did not receive a QO (it did not affect the final standings). My reasoning was that the rules did not specifically say that they had to have a QO, unless they were a wildcard pick - "If they die and receive a qualifying obituary for DDP, they will score double points." However this year, Natty Wailer was a wildcard pick by @Salmon Mousse, leaving the question as to whether points should be awarded, and if so, should wildcard points be added. I passed the decision onto our adjudicator @Clorox Bleachman. The decision was that the line about wildcard picks suggested that a DDP QO was required to score in this game, and that should apply to all selections whether a wildcard or not. So no points for Natty I'm afraid, unless a suitable QO arrives later in the year. Bad luck for Salmon Mousse and also for @Annamiwho is denied a bonus for 2 hits in a day. By the same token, I have not awarded points yet for Ayman Al-Zawahiri who has not yet received the necessary confirmation of death from Al-Qaeda to allow him to be a hit in the DDP. Clorox also made adjudications on the following picks: George Perez : Hidden bonus of 5 points awarded Boris Pahors : Hidden "bonus" of -3 points awarded Jean-Louis Trintignant: Hidden bonus of +3 points denied These bonuses will be revealed at the end of the year (or possibly before then). I have made a decision myself to award the +3 points "unnatural death" bonus to James Lovelock as according to Wikipedia he died from "complications related to a fall". I believe this is accepted in the DDP as an "unnatural death", although it is debatable whether a fall is unnatural in a 103 year old man. If anyone has any objections, let me know and I will forward it to Clorox for an official adjudication. And while double checking his age, I have just realised that he died on his birthday, which means he gets an extra 5 bonus points, and I have to back and re-do the scores So you are not getting any more of an update tonight - you can wait a couple of days before I post anything further on the scores. Damn these endless bonuses 4 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 20,891 Posted August 21, 2022 Tom Weiskopf on my list here: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-11131983/Tom-Weiskopf-major-champion-golf-course-architect-dies.html 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,494 Posted September 12, 2022 Marsha Hunt brings me up to 14 hits 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
An Fear Beag 1,505 Posted September 13, 2022 Good Lord - has it really been a month since I promised you all an update within a couple of days? Oh well, never mind. Let's make a start, because there are a fair few hits to get to by now. The following were scoring hits: CW McCALL +1 Base Point No Bonus +1 TOTAL POINTS Hits for: Toast GcReptile Bibliogryphon HARRY BILLINGE +1 Base Point +3 Solo Pick +11 TOTAL POINTS Hits for: GcReptile NEHEMIAH PERSOFF +1 Base Point No Bonus +1 TOTAL POINTS Hits for: An Fear Beag (Bonus +1 Position 47 in list) The Old Lady (Bonus +1 Position 21 in list) (Bonus +2 Hits in order) Doulton Hell Perhaps (Bonus +1 Position 36 in list) Salmon Mousse (Breaks run of hits in order) Great Uncle Bulgaria Book The Old Crem Buffalo Phil (Bonus +1 Position 34 in list) Bibliogryphon Msc (Bonus +1 Position 35 in list) TOM SMITH +1 Base Point +2 DDP DROP 40 +2 Deathlist Alumnus +5 TOTAL POINTS Hits for: An Fear Beag The Old Lady (Breaks run of hits in order) Doulton (Bonus +1 Position 46 in list) The Unknown Man Hell Wannamaker (Bonus +1 Position 49 in list) (Bonus +2 Hits in order) Captain Chorizo (Bonus +1 Position 46 in list) Salmon Mousse Book (Bonus +1 Position 47 in list) Toast (Bonus +1 Position 2 in list) Pedro67 The Old Crem (Bonus +1 Position 2 in list) Buffalo Phil (Bonus +1 Position 8 in list) Annami (Bonus +1 Hits in order) Marinisia (Bonus +2 Hits in order) Bibliogryphon (Bonus +1 Position 47 in list) MORE TO FOLLOW ......... 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
An Fear Beag 1,505 Posted September 13, 2022 KANE TANAKA +1 Base Point +3 (Hidden Bonus) +1 (Hidden Bonus) +5 TOTAL POINTS Hits for: Joey Russ An Fear Beag (Bonus +1 Position 13 in list) The Old Lady Hell (Wildcard) Wannamaker (Breaks run of hits in order) LizLemon (Breaks run of hits in order) Perhaps Captain Chorizo Salmon Mousse (Bonus +1 Position 21 in list) GreatUncleBulgaria Book Toast Pedro67 The Old Crem (Wildcard) Bibliogryphon Annami (Bonus +1 Position 35 in list) (Bonus +2 Hits in order) GcReptile (Bonus +1 Position 8 in list) Buffalo Phil (Bonus +1 Position 3 in list) Msc GEORGE PEREZ +1 Base Point +2 DDP DROP 40 +5 (Hidden Bonus) +8 TOTAL POINTS Hits for: Joey Russ (Wildcard) An Fear Beag The Old Lady (Wildcard) Doulton (Wildcard) The Unknown Man (Wildcard) Hell (Bonus +1 Position 46 in list) Wannamaker LizLemon (Bonus +1 Position 36 in list) (Wildcard) Perhaps (Bonus +1 Position 13 in list) Captain Chorizo (Bonus +1 Position 13 in list) (Wildcard) Salmon Mousse (Bonus +1 Position 11 in list) (Wildcard) GreatUncleBulgaria Book Toast (Bonus +1 Position 21 in list) Pedro67 (Bonus +1 Position 8 in list) (Wildcard) The Old Crem (Bonus +1 Position 31 in list) Buffalo Phil (Bonus +1 Position 35 in list) (Wildcard) Annami (Bonus +1 Position 11 in list) (Breaks run of hits in order) (Wildcard) GcReptile (Bonus +1 Position 5 in list) (Wildcard) Marinisia YoungWillz Msc (Wildcard) MORE TO FOLLOW ........ 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
An Fear Beag 1,505 Posted September 13, 2022 LESTER PIGGOTT +1 Base Point +2 DL Alumnus +1 Longest Gap between hits -3 (Hidden Bonus) +1 TOTAL POINTS Hits for: Doulton (Bonus +1 Position 26 in list) Perhaps Gooseberry Crumble (Wildcard) BORIS PAHOR +1 Base Point +3 (Hidden Bonus) -3 (Hidden Bonus) +1 TOTAL POINTS Hits for: Joey Russ (Bonus +1 Position 6 in list) An Fear Beag The Old Lady (Bonus +1 Position 3 in list) Hell (Bonus +1 Position 3 in list) Wannamaker Perhaps (Bonus +1 Position 16 in list) (Wildcard) GreatUncleBulgaria (Wildcard) Book Pedro67 (Bonus +1 Position 2 in list) Buffalo Phil Annami Marinisia (Bonus +1 Position 11 in list) Bibliogryphon (Bonus +1 Position 6 in list) Msc (Bonus +1 Position 11 in list) JEAN-LOUIS TRINTINGANT +1 Base Point +2 DDP DROP 40 +3 TOTAL POINTS Hits for: Joey Russ An Fear Beag (Bonus +1 Position 8 in list) The Old Lady Doulton The Unknown Man (Bonus +1 Position 36 in list) Wannamaker (Bonus +1 Position 3 in list) LizLemon Perhaps (Bonus +1 Position 21 in list) Salmon Mousse GreatUncleBulgaria Book Toast Pedro67 Buffalo Phil (Bonus +1 Position 5 in list) Annami GcReptile (Bonus +1 Position 43 in list) Marinisia (Bonus +1 Position 21in list) (Wildcard) Bibliogryphon Msc DEBORAH JAMES +1 Base Point +1 (Hidden Bonus) +2 TOTAL POINTS Hits for: Joey Russ An Fear Beag (Bonus +1 Position 19 in list)(Wildcard) Doulton (Bonus +1 Position 6 in list) Perhaps Captain Chorizo Salmon Mousse Book (Wildcard) The Old Crem (Wildcard) Buffalo Phil GcReptile (Wildcard) YoungWillz Msc STILL MORE TO FOLLOW ....... (LATER TODAY) 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
An Fear Beag 1,505 Posted September 13, 2022 OK - Just time for a few more before I have to do a bit of work.... SUSIE STEINER +1 Base Point +2 DDP DROP 40 +1 (Hidden Bonus) +4 TOTAL POINTS Hits for: An Fear Beag The Old Lady (Bonus +1 Position 26 in list) Doulton (Bonus +1 Position 43 in list)(Wildcard) The Unknown Man (Bonus +1 Position 11 in list) LizLemon (Bonus +1 Position 8 in list) Perhaps (Bonus +1 Position 47 in list) (Wildcard) Captain Chorizo (Wildcard) Salmon Mousse GreatUncleBulgaria (Wildcard) Book (Wildcard) Toast (Wildcard) Pedro67 (Wildcard) The Old Crem (Wildcard) Buffalo Phil (Bonus +1 Position 26 in list) Annami (Bonus +1 Position 26 in list) (Wildcard) GcReptile (Wildcard) Marinisia Bibliogryphon (Wildcard) Msc (Wildcard) (Bonus +1 Position 46 in list) (Wildcard) LARRY STORCH +1 Base Point NO BONUS +1 TOTAL POINTS Hits for: Hell (Bonus +1 Position 11 in list) Perhaps Annami (Bonus +1 Position 47 in list) GcReptile Bibliogryphon FRANCISCO MORALEZ BERMUDEZ +1 Base Point +2 (Hidden Bonus) +3 TOTAL POINTS Hits for: An Fear Beag (Bonus +1 Position 35in list) Hell (Bonus +1 Position 6 in list) Wannamaker Perhaps Captain Chorizo (Bonus +1 Position 8 in list) Book Buffalo Phil (Bonus +1 Position 21 in list) GcReptile Msc (Bonus +1 Position 13 in list) Thats it for now, more should follow later in the day. 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perhaps 1,422 Posted September 13, 2022 Persoff was a hit for me also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
An Fear Beag 1,505 Posted September 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Perhaps said: Persoff was a hit for me also. Indeed he was. My own shorthand failed me, as I translated the PE in my notes to Pedro rather than Perhaps in my post. I will edit it now. The correct points had already been awarded, so no harm done. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
An Fear Beag 1,505 Posted September 13, 2022 Here are some more hits: JAMES LOVELOCK +1 Base Point +3 Unnatural death +5 Died on Birthday +5 (Hidden Bonus) +14 TOTAL POINTS Hits for: Joey Russ The Old Lady (Bonus +1 Position 47 in list) Hell (Bonus +1 Position 5 in list) Wannamaker Perhaps (Bonus +1 Position 19 in list) Captain Chorizo Gooseberry Crumble Book (Bonus +1 Position 21 in list) Pedro67 (Bonus +1 Position 46 in list) Buffalo Phil YoungWillz Bibliogryphon (Wildcard) Msc (Wildcard) BERNARD CRIBBINS +1 Base Point +2 DL Alumnus +5 (Hidden Bonus) +8 TOTAL POINTS Hits for: Great Uncle Bulgaria The Old Crem(Bonus +1 Position 41 in list) YoungWillz NICHELE NICHOLS +1 Base Point +1 (Hidden Bonus) +2 TOTAL POINTS Hits for: An Fear Beag (Bonus +1 Position 26 in list) Doulton Wannamaker LizLemon (Bonus +1 Position 2 in list) Captain Chorizo (Bonus +1 Position 31 in list) Toast Pedro67 (Bonus +1 Position 36 in list) Marinisia Bibliogryphon OLIVIA NEWTON-JOHN +1 Base Point +2 DDP DROP 40 +2 DL Alumnus +5 (Hidden Bonus) +1 (Hidden Bonus) +11 TOTAL POINTS Hits for: An Fear Beag The Old Lady The Unknown Man Wannamaker LizLemon GooseberryCrumble Book (Bonus +1 Position 36 in list) Pedro67 The Old Crem Buffalo Phil (Bonus +1 Position 47 in list) GcReptile (Bonus +1 Position 34 in list) Just a few more to follow................. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
An Fear Beag 1,505 Posted September 13, 2022 Just a few more popular hits and then we are done: TOM WEISKOPF +1 Base Point +2 DDP DROP 40 +3 (Hidden Bonus) +6 TOTAL POINTS Hits for: Joey Russ An Fear Beag The Old Lady (Bonus +1 Position 5 in list) Doulton (Bonus +1 Position 47 in list) The Unknown Man Wannamaker LizLemon (Bonus +1 Position 11 in list) Perhaps (Bonus +1 Position 49 in list) Captain Chorizo (Wildcard) Salmon Mousse (Bonus +1 Position 46 in list) Toast (Bonus +1 Position 47 in list) Pedro67 The Old Crem (Bonus +1 Position 3 in list) Annami (Bonus +1 Position 31 in list) GcReptile (Bonus +1 Position 41 in list) Marinisia (Bonus +1 Position 46 in list) YoungWillz Msc (Bonus +1 Position 47 in list) (Wildcard) BILL TURNBULL +1 Base Point +2 DDP DROP 40 +2 Deathlist Alumnus +5 TOTAL POINTS Hits for: An Fear Beag The Unknown Man Hell Wannamaker LizLemon Salmon Mousse GreatUncleBulgaria (Bonus +1 Position 8 in list) Book (Bonus +1 Position 5 in list) Pedro67 The Old Crem (Bonus +1 Position 43 in list) Buffalo Phil Annami (Bonus +1 Position 2 in list) GcReptile Marinisia MARSHA HUNT +1 Base Point +1(Hidden Bonus) +2 TOTAL POINTS Hits for: An Fear Beag The Old Lady Doulton The Unknown Man Hell (Bonus +1 Position 2 in list) Wannamaker (Bonus +1 Position 11 in list) LizLemon Perhaps (Bonus +1 Position 34 in list) Captain Chorizo (Bonus +1 Position 26 in list) Salmon Mousse (Bonus +1 Position 26 in list) GooseberryCrumble (Bonus +1 Position 35 in list) GreatUncleBulgaria (Bonus +1 Position 36 in list) Book Pedro67 Buffalo Phil Annami (Bonus +1 Position 36 in list) Marinisia Bibliogryphon Msc (Bonus +1 Position 31 in list) QUEEN ELIZABETH II +1 Base Point +2 DDP DROP 40 +2 DL Alumnus +1 (Hidden Bonus) +2 (Hidden Bonus) +8 TOTAL POINTS Hits for: The Old Lady (Bonus +1 Position 41 in list) Doulton (Bonus +1 Position 34 in list) Hell Salmon Mousse Book The Old Crem That's all folks, at least of the hits that have been flagged. If any of the more obscure selections have died off my radar, please feel free to let me know, and following an appropriate sweary rant, I will add them to the list. Scoreboard to follow.............. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
An Fear Beag 1,505 Posted September 13, 2022 So, that is all the boring stuff out of the way. Now for the only bit that people actually care about - who is winning the bloody thing! We have a clear leader with @Pedro67 out in front, with @CaptainChorizo ready to pounce in second, and The Old pair of Lady and Crem close together in third and fourth. @Gooseberry Crumble's cunning strategy of ignoring all the popular picks (you know, the ones that are actually likely to die) seems to have backfired as the lie in a distant last place. 4 players are tied with most hits: @Pedro67 who leads with 118, @gcreptile who is on 97, @Perhaps on 88 and me, who has managed to muster up a mere 81 points from the same number of hits as the leader. @gcreptile was right - this really is a shitty scoring system 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,913 Posted September 13, 2022 There is a tendency in academics to "sexify" the results of your research, so that you can squeeze out some proof of your hypothesis based on flimsy evidence. This tendency disregards that the rejection of a hypothesis may be as valuable as the confirmation. To learn that something is NOT correct, does also have some value. So yeah, it could be a useful result of this competition to learn that the scoring system is, indeed, shit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,379 Posted September 13, 2022 Dunno about the crap scoring, msc's on the comeback trail if I counted all those points up! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,913 Posted September 13, 2022 Definitely a monumental task though, to get it all together.... ..... I think Natty Wailer is missing? Is he scoring (not that anyone ever bothered to mention the name in this pool)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
An Fear Beag 1,505 Posted September 13, 2022 16 minutes ago, gcreptile said: Definitely a monumental task though, to get it all together.... ..... I think Natty Wailer is missing? Is he scoring (not that anyone ever bothered to mention the name in this pool)? I mentioned his name - further up this page where I explained why he wasn't scoring Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
An Fear Beag 1,505 Posted September 13, 2022 I've also just realised that I forgot to actually post the scoreboard Here it is: PEDRO67 118 17 Hits CAPTAIN CHORIZO 110 15 Hits THE OLD LADY 102 14 Hits THE OLD CREM 101 14 Hits BUFFALO PHIL 99 16 Hits GCREPTILE 97 17 Hits BOOK 94 16 Hits MSC 89 14 Hits HELL 89 13 Hits PERHAPS 88 17 Hits BIBLIOGRYPHON 84 14 Hits WANNAMAKER 82 14 Hits AN FEAR BEAG 81 17 Hits DOULTON 80 14 Hits LIZ LEMON 79 12 Hits ANNAMI 79 11 Hits THE UNKNOWN MAN 75 11 Hits SALMON MOUSSE 73 13 Hits GREAT UNCLE BULGARIA 70 12 Hits JOEY RUSS 68 11 Hits TOAST 65 11 Hits YOUNG WILLZ 58 7 Hits MARINISIA 56 11 Hits GOOSEBERRY CRUMBLE 43 6 Hits 6 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,913 Posted September 13, 2022 Ah sorry, I had forgotten about that post. Objection withdrawn! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,379 Posted September 13, 2022 I'll be honest, I've double checked my points tally for you three times with the working you gave and come up with three different answers each time, so I'm just going to lie down till my head stops hurting. Good work, that chap. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
An Fear Beag 1,505 Posted September 19, 2022 On 13/09/2022 at 16:24, msc said: I'll be honest, I've double checked my points tally for you three times with the working you gave and come up with three different answers each time, so I'm just going to lie down till my head stops hurting. Good work, that chap. Now you know how I feel - X 24 If there are errors, they are likely to be in what I posted on here, rather than in the actual scores, as they are done up on a spreadsheet. I will be double-checking that in detail at the end of the game, so if there are some minor errors, I will pick them up then. Out of curiosity, did any of your three tallies match what I have on the scoreboard? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,494 Posted October 4, 2022 Sachen Littlefeather is my 15th hit here 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
