The Next Tory Leader

[Toast 16,141]

Meanwhile Boris Johnson, having agreed not to hold a wedding party at Chequers, is holding a party at Chequers.

Fucking bastard ought to be dragged out of there by his bollocks and strung up.

[RoverAndOut 4,746]

37 minutes ago, Toast said:

Meanwhile Boris Johnson, having agreed not to hold a wedding party at Chequers, is holding a party at Chequers.

Fucking bastard ought to be dragged out of there by his bollocks and strung up.

 

Missing a COBRA meeting into the record heatwave his own government have declared a 'national emergency' into the bargain. Because of course he did.

[gcreptile 10,972]

You guys are having a bit of a clusterfuck over there?

I think Rishi Sunak cant decide whether he wants to be a reasonable BoJo alternative or a Trump style "the more I piss them off, the more you like me" kind of conservative. Truss seems like the latter to me and so she'll ride on that ticket to the end. Sunak will sink. Mordaunt vs. Truss... I dont know, my money is on the latter. 

[YoungWillz 21,050]

Sunak and Truss have resigned from tomorrow's TV debate.

 

Without them, there would have been only one other candidate left. Time for Kay Burley to do an in depth interview with that person?

 

Of course there is a no confidence motion today - the "we all hate Boris Johnson" candidates will vote for him to stay as PM. (Well, actually Liz (I love a bit of Kwasi)Truss loves a blond sex pest and he loves her, so....liar?)

[Toast 16,141]

6 minutes ago, gcreptile said:

You guys are having a bit of a clusterfuck over there?

I think Rishi Sunak cant decide whether he wants to be a reasonable BoJo alternative or a Trump style "the more I piss them off, the more you like me" kind of conservative. Truss seems like the latter to me and so she'll ride on that ticket to the end. Sunak will sink. Mordaunt vs. Truss... I dont know, my money is on the latter. 

 

The real scandal is that the next Prime Minister is being decided by a few thousand people who are not representative of the country as a whole.

My hope now is that Truss wins and then finds herself so hopelessly out of her depth that she calls a General Election.

[TQR 14,398]

The Sky debate has been pulled because Sunak and Truss decided they don’t fancy it. Well, that’s what’s claimed, however it transpires that Tory HQ as a whole have decided it was a bad idea.
 

Initially the debates were to be televised so the public could better get to know the candidates. Now the third one isn’t happening for fear of the public getting to know the candidates any more.

[TQR 14,398]

I’m also thinking Truss has a fair chance of becoming PM, and as Toastie has said above, she’ll crash and burn her party into opposition before long.

 

Here’s her looking professional and stateswomanlike.

 

 

[Toast 16,141]

7 minutes ago, TQR said:

Initially the debates were to be televised so the public could better get to know the candidates. Now the third one isn’t happening for fear of the public getting to know the candidates any more.

 

Too true.  I thought Tugendhat would be the best of a bad bunch, but he's had nothing to say except "We need a clean start" and "I've been in the Army". Repeatedly.

[RoverAndOut 4,746]

24 minutes ago, Toast said:

 

Too true.  I thought Tugendhat would be the best of a bad bunch, but he's had nothing to say except "We need a clean start" and "I've been in the Army". Repeatedly.

 

Yes, I'm getting a little tired of "I've served in the army" featuring in literally every answer he gives. Still the most reasonable of the 5 though. Mordaunt for me best of the rest, you've only got to see how hard the Daily Fail are going after her to see she's clearly more palatable than the rest. But her star is on the wane under more scrutiny. Safe to say whoever wins, the rest are going to hate. The ERG are in Civil War over Truss v Badenoch.

[maryportfuncity 10,647]

30 minutes ago, Toast said:

 

Too true.  I thought Tugendhat would be the best of a bad bunch, but he's had nothing to say except "We need a clean start" and "I've been in the Army". Repeatedly.

 

To be fair, from the same message Hitler managed to be the boss for well over a decade

 

[Charlotte's Controller 195]

On 14/07/2022 at 00:25, Toast said:

 

What will you be telling your MP?

 William Wrag will be down the pub no doubt talking to constituents, I am concerned over Companies House laxness, the Covid loan frauds and poor enforcement of regulation that should be there to protect national assets.

[TQR 14,398]

The end for Tom Tughat.

 

 

RESULTS:

 

Sunak: 115

Mordaunt: 82

Truss: 71

Badenoch: 58

Tugendhat who used to be in the army: 31

[Sean 6,329]

24 minutes ago, TQR said:

The end for Tom Tughat.

 

 

RESULTS:

 

Sunak: 115

Mordaunt: 82

Truss: 71

Badenoch: 58

Tugendhat who used to be in the army: 31

He is ex army?Bloody he'll kept that quiet.

 

Almost certainly Truss vs Sunak.A fair few votes will go from Tugendhat to Mourdaunt  but not exclusively can see them spreading out in all directions but mainly Mourdaunt will be the beneficiary.Badenoch almost certain to get knocked out next round but with a still sizeable number the majority of which will almost certainly go to Truss knocking mourdaunt off the ticket.

[RoverAndOut 4,746]

Sunak - 115 (+14)

Mordaunt - 82 (-5)

Truss - 71 (+7)

Badenoch - 58 (+9)

Tugendhat - 31 (-1)

 

Interesting that Badenoch picked up more from Braverman's exit than Truss. Mordaunt's lost ground, which is dangerous for her. Looks like MPs have decided Rishi is the safe bet to get behind. And seems Truss will end up in the run off purely by accident, unless the Badenoch gang can convince a few Truss supporters to switch sides since it's close. They only need a swing of 7 to knock Truss out instead, assuming the Tugendhat supporters go to Sunak and Mordaunt instead. Getting rid of Truss is the only hope for Penny I think: Truss's votes won't all go to Badenoch, most of Badenoch's will go to Truss I suspect.

[Sean 6,329]

4 minutes ago, RoverAndOut said:

Sunak - 115 (+14)

Mordaunt - 82 (-5)

Truss - 71 (+7)

Badenoch - 58 (+9)

Tugendhat - 31 (-1)

 

Interesting that Badenoch picked up more from Braverman's exit than Truss. Mordaunt's lost ground, which is dangerous for her. Looks like MPs have decided Rishi is the safe bet to get behind. And seems Truss will end up in the run off purely by accident, unless the Badenoch gang can convince a few Truss supporters to switch sides since it's close. They only need a swing of 7 to knock Truss out instead, assuming the Tugendhat supporters go to Sunak and Mordaunt instead. Getting rid of Truss is the only hope for Penny I think: Truss's votes won't all go to Badenoch, most of Badenoch's will go to Truss I suspect.

Yeah I can't see Truss losing much support in the next round or Badenoch gaining much if any.

[Sean 6,329]

Mordaunt lost one vote not 5 but your point still stands about numbers going down being dangerous.

[RoverAndOut 4,746]

9 minutes ago, Sean said:

Mordaunt lost one vote not 5 but your point still stands about numbers going down being dangerous.

 

My mistake. For some reason I had her on 87 from the second round. Maybe mixing it up with the 67 from Round 1.

[Charlotte's Controller 195]

At the end of this pantomime it will almost be Christmas and time for more seasonal entertainment.

 

Truss in boots (Boris as the Mayor of London)

Suella and the ugly sisters (Boris,Smog and Fabricant in drag) with Tom as the Prince, (he’s been in the army you know).

Rishi, Nadim and Kemi in Aladdin.

 

Nadine overseeing production as Culture Secretary, with scenery, costumes and furnishings by Carrie. Coverage on the government channel C4. Funding by donors, profits for distribution via the Caymen Islands. Given the level of production there is no room for Pennys.

 

[Paul Bearer 6,102]

IMO, I don't think it really matters who gets in. They're all the same. A bunch of Kunts. .  The PM is like the American president, just a voice box for the people in the background who make the real decisions. (Regardless of what party gets in at GE time) 

[TQR 14,398]

Incase you didn’t watch the debates, here are some of the key points:

 

 

[TQR 14,398]

Badenough’s campaign is done. No surprises there.

 

Sunak: 118

Mordaunt: 92

Truss: 86

Badenoch: 59

 

Sunak’s gains are now petering out, Truss is fast catching Mordaunt and the vast majority of Badenoch’s far-right supporters will go Truss’ way.

 

Truss also polls considerably better than Sunak amongst Tory members. It’ll be her, won’t it?

Good fucking grief.

[Sean 6,329]

Mordaunt has now lost a vote now Ellwood has lost the whip.

 

I can't see Badenoch voters going over to Mourdaunt in a meaningful number.

 

If it is Truss vs Sunak he might outshine her in the campaign as she is as wooden as they come and could remind Tory voters of Theresa May which is not an unfair comparison.

[maryportfuncity 10,647]

16 minutes ago, Sean said:

Mordaunt has now lost a vote now Ellwood has lost the whip.

 

I can't see Badenoch voters going over to Mourdaunt in a meaningful number.

 

If it is Truss vs Sunak he might outshine her in the campaign as she is as wooden as they come and could remind Tory voters of Theresa May which is not an unfair comparison.

 

 

Yeah, but...her Thatcher reincarnation attempts are designed to appeal directly to the 160,000 party members who vote after this week. Overwhelmingly white, averaging just over 70 years old and many of them convinced the UK never had better days than a decade of Maggie. Throw in some unspoken closet racism and the likely nastiness of the campaigns and Truss might just shade it.

 

Personally, I'd say her weak point is thinking on her feet and responding to difficult questions, meaning she could spend two years being shredded at PMQs by a good lawyer like Starmer, especially if she presides over prolonged inflation, workplace unrest and a backlog of Brexit-created problems. 

 

Interesting times, mind

[Charlotte's Controller 195]

Just been reading a medical definition of a Truss, a support for a male that nowadays is out of date. Need I say more.

 

[maryportfuncity 10,647]

2 hours ago, Charlotte's Controller said:

Just been reading a medical definition of a Truss, a support for a male that nowadays is out of date. Need I say more.

 

 

 

If anything that means she's a bit overqualified to lead the Tories, then