Deathrace 1,176 Posted August 22 My best guess of the year of death is: Carter 2024 Biden 2030 Clinton 2032 Trump 2034 Bush 2040 Obama 2045 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrWonderful 483 Posted August 23 20 hours ago, MrWonderful said: I totally disagree. The only thing Trump has going for himself is good genes. But he's very unhealthy and obese and I don't know if you've noticed this, but he's been seen without his ridiculous orange makeup more lately (such as when he's playing golf), and he looks clearly, clearly more aged than he did even last year. I give him a shot at 90 because of the genes but everything else would point to that not happening. And yes, I know you can have obese people living well past 90 at times, but it's generally not a good bet. He doesn't just act like a child, he eats like one, too, and between that and the stress he looks like he's under, I could see him going much quicker than you're anticipating. Oh, and he's also showing cognitive decline. Perhaps not as obviously as Biden is, but yeah, it's most definitely there. Came here to post the pic that was already posted in the Trump thread, sorry about that. I'll definitely take the Under on 89.5 years lol. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Obit 858 Posted August 23 I don't know why people think that Trump's parents living to 93 and 88 is an indication that he's going to live a very long life. He has a dreadfully unhealthy lifestyle, looks like a Halloween pumpkin and is clearly not all there mentally. I'd be amazed if he even sees mid-80s. "Good genes" isn't as influential as people think. Look at all the supercentenarians out there who outlived all their children. The daughter of the Tarrants (one of Britain's oldest couples - died at 110 and 102) didn't even make 80. A healthy lifestyle is much more important. Even if "good genes" were massively important, 93 and 88 aren't really that insane to the level that you'd think they'd pull him that much. As for "still looks 68", give me a break... 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jd24fan 78 Posted August 25 On 23/08/2024 at 04:07, Master Obit said: I don't know why people think that Trump's parents living to 93 and 88 is any indication that he's going to live a very long life. He has a dreadfully unhealthy lifestyle, looks like a Halloween pumpkin and is clearly not all there mentally. I'd be amazed if he even sees mid-80s. "Good genes" isn't as influential as people think. Look at all the supercentenarians out there who outlived all their children. The daughter of the Tarrants (one of Britain's oldest couples - died at 110 and 102) didn't even make 80. A healthy lifestyle is much more important. Even if "good genes" were massively important, 93 and 88 aren't really that insane to the level that you'd think they'd pull him that much. As for "still looks 68", give me a break... Another thing too is all of Trump's siblings are dead with two of them dying within the past four years. Both of them didn't make it to 93 or 88, and of course Fred Jr. died years before the parents died. Regarding another president, Jimmy Carter's siblings all lived shorter lives and had more health issues. Jimmy's stated in the past that his lifestyle of being active helped with his health and longevity. My grandparents lived to 83 and 88. Their oldest son (my uncle) died earlier this year at 67 after a battle with lung cancer. He was a lifelong smoker and former heavy drinker, and had health issues off and on for the last 15 years of his life. Trump didn't age that much during his presidency due to little hard work and no real stress, but now has started to age due to the stress of all his trials. He's become more incoherent during speeches than he was in 2016 or even 2020. I think he's declining rapidly. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tracy 2,472 Posted August 25 35 minutes ago, jd24fan said: Another thing too is all of Trump's siblings are dead with two of them dying within the past four years. His older sister Elizabeth is still living. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jd24fan 78 Posted August 25 1 minute ago, tracy said: His older sister Elizabeth is still living. Forgot that he had another sister. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MortalCaso 1,645 Posted August 27 On 25/08/2024 at 16:54, jd24fan said: Another thing too is all of Trump's siblings are dead with two of them dying within the past four years. Both of them didn't make it to 93 or 88, and of course Fred Jr. died years before the parents died. Regarding another president, Jimmy Carter's siblings all lived shorter lives and had more health issues. Jimmy's stated in the past that his lifestyle of being active helped with his health and longevity. My grandparents lived to 83 and 88. Their oldest son (my uncle) died earlier this year at 67 after a battle with lung cancer. He was a lifelong smoker and former heavy drinker, and had health issues off and on for the last 15 years of his life. Trump didn't age that much during his presidency due to little hard work and no real stress, but now has started to age due to the stress of all his trials. He's become more incoherent during speeches than he was in 2016 or even 2020. I think he's declining rapidly. No matter how you view Trump or his policies, this is a batshit statement. Being the president of the United States is one of the most stressful jobs imaginable. While he golfed and browsed twitter often, there isn't a day where you aren't the President. It is a 24/7 job always on-call with an immense amount of pressure and responsibility. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Red Death 87 Posted August 28 On 23/08/2024 at 06:29, Deathrace said: My best guess of the year of death is: Carter 2024 Biden 2030 Clinton 2032 Trump 2034 Bush 2040 Obama 2045 You don't have to be so specific about their death years. I once predicted here that Prince Phillip and Queen Elizabeth would die in 2023 and 2030 respectively, and they were both dead before 2023 even began. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thatcher 2,502 Posted 20 hours ago Hospitalised with a fever. 5 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,650 Posted 20 hours ago Normally that wouldn’t likely be fatal even with someone of his age and general condition but who knows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lafaucheuse 4,096 Posted 20 hours ago Mango is that you ? 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zsa Zsa's leg 888 Posted 19 hours ago Clinton was similar to LBJ in that he took basically no care of his health until his 60s, which was far too late for LBJ. I struggle seeing Bill hit 90. He'll probably be fine, but I'd be concerned if he's not released by the New Year or we get no updates for about a week or so. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sod's Law 472 Posted 19 hours ago I can see it being a very close horse race between him, Biden and Trump with all three passing away in the next ten years (does anyone honestly think Trump will hit ninety?). Bush Jr. living into the 2040s would not surprise me on the other hand. Obama will probably go in the same decade. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dimreaper 753 Posted 17 hours ago 2 hours ago, Zsa Zsa's leg said: Clinton was similar to LBJ in that he took basically no care of his health until his 60s, which was far too late for LBJ. I struggle seeing Bill hit 90. He'll probably be fine, but I'd be concerned if he's not released by the New Year or we get no updates for about a week or so. What stands out to me the most is how old he sounds when he speaks. His voice reminds me of a man in his 90s. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zsa Zsa's leg 888 Posted 16 hours ago 38 minutes ago, dimreaper said: What stands out to me the most is how old he sounds when he speaks. His voice reminds me of a man in his 90s. He has started looking pretty bad lately. I also noticed his hands kept shaking when he was at the DNC or speaking for Harris on the campaign trail. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mango 199 Posted 15 hours ago If Charles is on the List next year, so should Clinton. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bentrovato 1,113 Posted 47 minutes ago Former US President Bill Clinton released from hospital after flu - BBC News 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites