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I reckon in 2 weeks Superstar Billy Graham will be deed. He's no Zsa Zsa, getting released from hospital will be the end of him. We all know Zsa Zsa is imortal.

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Apparently Jake The Snake Roberts was asked to sing during the 7th innning stretch of a Brave games a few days ago. He got boos from a lot of people there for not knowing the words. However he looks to have turned his life around when for years it seemed like eventually you would hear about him od'ing any day now. Jake has been sober for 180 days and is fit and dropped a lot of weight from Diamond Dallas Pages training regimen.

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:banghead: Lawler and Flair just can't let go and will eventually kill themselves in the ring.

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If I had to watch 3 hours of "WWE RAW" every week I'd be ignoring doctors' advice too.

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mick mcmanus has died i never heard of him but he was one of the most famous of the 60s and 70s.

 

Callow youth!

 

McManus was a proper wrestler - the sort who'd get old ladies weeing in their drawers at Digbeth Civic Hall on a cold Wednesday night.

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Right up there with Kendo Nagasaki. RIP Mick...

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mick mcmanus has died i never heard of him but he was one of the most famous of the 60s and 70s.

 

Mick McManus was a fucking legend, educate yourself.

 

Legitimately hated Jackie Pallo.

 

Didn't most of them?

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Well, after the publication of "You Grunt, I'll Groan" Pallo was about as popular as chlamydia in British wrestling dressing rooms, but before that him and McManus had real beef. I think their 60s encounters got a little shooty on more than one occasion, although barely any footage exists of those bouts.

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Also, according to one British wrestling historian, McManus was "briefly cheered up" by the recent arrival of his "old friend" Richard Attenborough at the same retirement home as him (Brishing House, rather than the previously reported Denville Hall). So Dickie's definitely on notice.

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mick mcmanus has died i never heard of him but he was one of the most famous of the 60s and 70s.

 

Mick McManus was a fucking legend, educate yourself.

 

Legitimately hated Jackie Pallo.

 

haha will i can't help if i wasn't alive yet ;) but i saw some of his matches on you tube. Now wrestling back then really was blurred it has the feeling of a genuine sport rather than sports entertainment.

 

To be honest the modern day wrestling has kind of put me off the whole thing wwe today is soulless. I used to watch world of sport in the early to mid 90s and wwf in late 90s to early 2000s though .

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mick mcmanus has died i never heard of him but he was one of the most famous of the 60s and 70s.

 

Mick McManus was a fucking legend, educate yourself.

 

Legitimately hated Jackie Pallo.

 

haha will i can't help if i wasn't alive yet ;) but i saw some of his matches on you tube. Now wrestling back then really was blurred it has the feeling of a genuine sport rather than sports entertainment.

 

To be honest the modern day wrestling has kind of put me off the whole thing wwe today is soulless. I used to watch world of sport in the early to mid 90s and wwf in late 90s to early 2000s though .

 

WWE's virtual monopoly of the industry since 2001 was the worst thing that ever happened, they've become far too complacent. Now Vince is preoccupied with trying to conquer the world outside wrestling (or Sports Entertainment, if you prefer)

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I think there is a slight chance he get's a Sun Obit.

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mick mcmanus has died i never heard of him but he was one of the most famous of the 60s and 70s.

 

Mick McManus was a fucking legend, educate yourself.

 

Legitimately hated Jackie Pallo.

 

haha will i can't help if i wasn't alive yet ;) but i saw some of his matches on you tube. Now wrestling back then really was blurred it has the feeling of a genuine sport rather than sports entertainment.

 

To be honest the modern day wrestling has kind of put me off the whole thing wwe today is soulless. I used to watch world of sport in the early to mid 90s and wwf in late 90s to early 2000s though .

 

WWE's virtual monopoly of the industry since 2001 was the worst thing that ever happened, they've become far too complacent. Now Vince is preoccupied with trying to conquer the world outside wrestling (or Sports Entertainment, if you prefer)

 

You can tell Vince still controls most of what you see because most of the product is so out of touch and is formulaic nonsense.

 

Vince doesn't want to be a wrestling promoter but its all he has to make money . XFL failed, bodybuilding fed Failed , movies are hardly any good , wwe network

will probably never happen ,he really wants nothing to do with wrestling. People say vince is a good businessman to certain extent he is but he has had a whole lot of luck . Though to be fair the wwf put out one of the best shows on tv around 1998 - 2003 and deserved to win. I remember i was in school at that time and everyone watched it even the teachers. lol

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mick mcmanus has died i never heard of him but he was one of the most famous of the 60s and 70s.

 

Mick McManus was a fucking legend, educate yourself.

 

Legitimately hated Jackie Pallo.

 

haha will i can't help if i wasn't alive yet ;) but i saw some of his matches on you tube. Now wrestling back then really was blurred it has the feeling of a genuine sport rather than sports entertainment.

 

To be honest the modern day wrestling has kind of put me off the whole thing wwe today is soulless. I used to watch world of sport in the early to mid 90s and wwf in late 90s to early 2000s though .

 

WWE's virtual monopoly of the industry since 2001 was the worst thing that ever happened, they've become far too complacent. Now Vince is preoccupied with trying to conquer the world outside wrestling (or Sports Entertainment, if you prefer)

 

You can tell Vince still controls most of what you see because most of the product is so out of touch and is formulaic nonsense.

 

Vince doesn't want to be a wrestling promoter but its all he has to make money . XFL failed, bodybuilding fed Failed , movies are hardly any good , wwe network

will probably never happen ,he really wants nothing to do with wrestling. People say vince is a good businessman to certain extent he is but he has had a whole lot of luck . Though to be fair the wwf put out one of the best shows on tv around 1998 - 2003 and deserved to win. I remember i was in school at that time and everyone watched it even the teachers. lol

 

Oh yeah, he loathes the term "wrestling" and forbids his employees (actually, independent contractors as they are officially classified) from using it. He really needs to get over his inferiority complex about being thought of as a lowly wrestling promoter

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mick mcmanus has died i never heard of him but he was one of the most famous of the 60s and 70s.

 

Mick McManus was a fucking legend, educate yourself.

 

Legitimately hated Jackie Pallo.

 

haha will i can't help if i wasn't alive yet ;) but i saw some of his matches on you tube. Now wrestling back then really was blurred it has the feeling of a genuine sport rather than sports entertainment.

 

To be honest the modern day wrestling has kind of put me off the whole thing wwe today is soulless. I used to watch world of sport in the early to mid 90s and wwf in late 90s to early 2000s though .

 

WWE's virtual monopoly of the industry since 2001 was the worst thing that ever happened, they've become far too complacent. Now Vince is preoccupied with trying to conquer the world outside wrestling (or Sports Entertainment, if you prefer)

 

You can tell Vince still controls most of what you see because most of the product is so out of touch and is formulaic nonsense.

 

Vince doesn't want to be a wrestling promoter but its all he has to make money . XFL failed, bodybuilding fed Failed , movies are hardly any good , wwe network

will probably never happen ,he really wants nothing to do with wrestling. People say vince is a good businessman to certain extent he is but he has had a whole lot of luck . Though to be fair the wwf put out one of the best shows on tv around 1998 - 2003 and deserved to win. I remember i was in school at that time and everyone watched it even the teachers. lol

 

I really think it's being too complimentary to call it formulaic. The nonsense part is definitely right. I think maybe you should have said generic/faceless/pointless. In fact, without wanting to seem like I'm too aggressively taking apart your post (I'm on side with anyone who gives WWE a verbal kicking... I just like correcting people, no offence), the phrase formulaic nonsense is a bit of an oxymoron, because if it was following a formula at least you'd think it made some sort of sense at a basic level. But what fucking formula does his "product" follow? Absolutely none, the "storylines" seem to spend ages going absolutely nowhere and his only two "stars" are a former white rapper from a nice small town in Mass. who hasn't actually rapped in years and has now (d)evolved into a sort of four-way hybrid of Eminem, Vanilla Ice, take-your-vitamins-and-your-milk-era Hulk Hogan, and a terrible wannabe of The Rock at his 1999-2001 best (mostly the last one), and a skinny heroin-addict-looking former independent wrestler who brings a lot less to the table in personality terms than he or his employers think and who only really appeals to snarky "Internet Wrestling Community" (again no offence to anyone here, but..... *shudder*) fans who hang up all their "hopes"/"respect" on his vague "credibility" that he gets from being from a former indy wrestler with tattoos and a straight-edge lifestyle (a lam gimmick/personality point which seems to have absolutely no traction or relevance in the pro-wrestling arena, and is better left to being discussed/boasted about on Facebook posts, or during that really talky phase of house parties). Most of the wrestlers are effectively mutes, because they have absolutely no personality because Vince just plucked them out of college because they were big and muscly, and either left them with their plain-as-a-punch-on-the-nose real names, or gave them a terrible sounding moniker which makes them sound like a gay porn star (anyone remember Gunner Scott?). And when they do try to talk at length it's enough to drive anyone with an IQ higher than 90 to call a suicide hotline. The biggest problem of all seems to be how all the different parts of the audience like someone different. So it's hard to generate any kind of real storyline because there is no clear-cut "bad guy" or "good guy". You have Cena who appeals to kids who dream of being as annoying and unfunny as him when they grow up. CM Punk who appeals to the kind of people who send death threats to movie critics who don't give the latest Christopher Nolan movie 100% on Rotten Tomatoes, and take their South Park DVD box set to bed with them and caress it like a dying pet. And Randy Orton who appeals to girls/women who like a "bad boy" (although I'm not sure if he even does anything like that any more). And the rest of the roster are just even more horrible cases of boring, half-arsed gimmicks that go nowhere and things that would have been abandoned after two weeks in the glorious attitude era now run endlessly for months or even years without ever improving. It just says everything that they do an "old school RAW" every 3 or 6 months now, and those episodes seem to get better ratings than regular ones. They rely on nostalgia far too much.

 

BTW if anyone wants to "correct" me on anything here I'd be glad to hear it but I think I've pretty much got it right. In case you couldn't tell I haven't watched any WWE regularly in a long time but I feel I've watched/know enough to be about right.

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mick mcmanus has died i never heard of him but he was one of the most famous of the 60s and 70s.

 

Mick McManus was a fucking legend, educate yourself.

 

Legitimately hated Jackie Pallo.

 

haha will i can't help if i wasn't alive yet ;) but i saw some of his matches on you tube. Now wrestling back then really was blurred it has the feeling of a genuine sport rather than sports entertainment.

 

To be honest the modern day wrestling has kind of put me off the whole thing wwe today is soulless. I used to watch world of sport in the early to mid 90s and wwf in late 90s to early 2000s though .

 

WWE's virtual monopoly of the industry since 2001 was the worst thing that ever happened, they've become far too complacent. Now Vince is preoccupied with trying to conquer the world outside wrestling (or Sports Entertainment, if you prefer)

 

You can tell Vince still controls most of what you see because most of the product is so out of touch and is formulaic nonsense.

 

Vince doesn't want to be a wrestling promoter but its all he has to make money . XFL failed, bodybuilding fed Failed , movies are hardly any good , wwe network

will probably never happen ,he really wants nothing to do with wrestling. People say vince is a good businessman to certain extent he is but he has had a whole lot of luck . Though to be fair the wwf put out one of the best shows on tv around 1998 - 2003 and deserved to win. I remember i was in school at that time and everyone watched it even the teachers. lol

 

I really think it's being too complimentary to call it formulaic. The nonsense part is definitely right. I think maybe you should have said generic/faceless/pointless. In fact, without wanting to seem like I'm too aggressively taking apart your post (I'm on side with anyone who gives WWE a verbal kicking... I just like correcting people, no offence), the phrase formulaic nonsense is a bit of an oxymoron, because if it was following a formula at least you'd think it made some sort of sense at a basic level. But what fucking formula does his "product" follow? Absolutely none, the "storylines" seem to spend ages going absolutely nowhere and his only two "stars" are a former white rapper from a nice small town in Mass. who hasn't actually rapped in years and has now (d)evolved into a sort of four-way hybrid of Eminem, Vanilla Ice, take-your-vitamins-and-your-milk-era Hulk Hogan, and a terrible wannabe of The Rock at his 1999-2001 best (mostly the last one), and a skinny heroin-addict-looking former independent wrestler who brings a lot less to the table in personality terms than he or his employers think and who only really appeals to snarky "Internet Wrestling Community" (again no offence to anyone here, but..... *shudder*) fans who hang up all their "hopes"/"respect" on his vague "credibility" that he gets from being from a former indy wrestler with tattoos and a straight-edge lifestyle (a lam gimmick/personality point which seems to have absolutely no traction or relevance in the pro-wrestling arena, and is better left to being discussed/boasted about on Facebook posts, or during that really talky phase of house parties). Most of the wrestlers are effectively mutes, because they have absolutely no personality because Vince just plucked them out of college because they were big and muscly, and either left them with their plain-as-a-punch-on-the-nose real names, or gave them a terrible sounding moniker which makes them sound like a gay porn star (anyone remember Gunner Scott?). And when they do try to talk at length it's enough to drive anyone with an IQ higher than 90 to call a suicide hotline. The biggest problem of all seems to be how all the different parts of the audience like someone different. So it's hard to generate any kind of real storyline because there is no clear-cut "bad guy" or "good guy". You have Cena who appeals to kids who dream of being as annoying and unfunny as him when they grow up. CM Punk who appeals to the kind of people who send death threats to movie critics who don't give the latest Christopher Nolan movie 100% on Rotten Tomatoes, and take their South Park DVD box set to bed with them and caress it like a dying pet. And Randy Orton who appeals to girls/women who like a "bad boy" (although I'm not sure if he even does anything like that any more). And the rest of the roster are just even more horrible cases of boring, half-arsed gimmicks that go nowhere and things that would have been abandoned after two weeks in the glorious attitude era now run endlessly for months or even years without ever improving. It just says everything that they do an "old school RAW" every 3 or 6 months now, and those episodes seem to get better ratings than regular ones. They rely on nostalgia far too much.

 

BTW if anyone wants to "correct" me on anything here I'd be glad to hear it but I think I've pretty much got it right. In case you couldn't tell I haven't watched any WWE regularly in a long time but I feel I've watched/know enough to be about right.

 

Your pretty much spot on with most things . By formula's I mean the heels are the same type of heels and the face's are etc. Heel's are always the coward and as soon as they turn heel they suddenly can't win a match without cheating,the faces are just like john cena and the rock clones . Everything revolves around john cena. Used to be a time when I would just sit though the PPV's now though i jut read the spoilers on wrestling news sites.

 

 

Wasting of talent is another big thing too.

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Bobby Eaton's back "at death's door" according to the dirtsheets. Respirator, long-term hospitalised, the lot.

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