CaptainChorizo 1,904 Posted May 31, 2013 http://news.sky.com/...ck-mcmanus-dies mick mcmanus has died i never heard of him but he was one of the most famous of the 60s and 70s. Mick McManus was a fucking legend, educate yourself. Legitimately hated Jackie Pallo. haha will i can't help if i wasn't alive yet but i saw some of his matches on you tube. Now wrestling back then really was blurred it has the feeling of a genuine sport rather than sports entertainment. To be honest the modern day wrestling has kind of put me off the whole thing wwe today is soulless. I used to watch world of sport in the early to mid 90s and wwf in late 90s to early 2000s though . WWE's virtual monopoly of the industry since 2001 was the worst thing that ever happened, they've become far too complacent. Now Vince is preoccupied with trying to conquer the world outside wrestling (or Sports Entertainment, if you prefer) You can tell Vince still controls most of what you see because most of the product is so out of touch and is formulaic nonsense. Vince doesn't want to be a wrestling promoter but its all he has to make money . XFL failed, bodybuilding fed Failed , movies are hardly any good , wwe network will probably never happen ,he really wants nothing to do with wrestling. People say vince is a good businessman to certain extent he is but he has had a whole lot of luck . Though to be fair the wwf put out one of the best shows on tv around 1998 - 2003 and deserved to win. I remember i was in school at that time and everyone watched it even the teachers. lol I really think it's being too complimentary to call it formulaic. The nonsense part is definitely right. I think maybe you should have said generic/faceless/pointless. In fact, without wanting to seem like I'm too aggressively taking apart your post (I'm on side with anyone who gives WWE a verbal kicking... I just like correcting people, no offence), the phrase formulaic nonsense is a bit of an oxymoron, because if it was following a formula at least you'd think it made some sort of sense at a basic level. But what fucking formula does his "product" follow? Absolutely none, the "storylines" seem to spend ages going absolutely nowhere and his only two "stars" are a former white rapper from a nice small town in Mass. who hasn't actually rapped in years and has now (d)evolved into a sort of four-way hybrid of Eminem, Vanilla Ice, take-your-vitamins-and-your-milk-era Hulk Hogan, and a terrible wannabe of The Rock at his 1999-2001 best (mostly the last one), and a skinny heroin-addict-looking former independent wrestler who brings a lot less to the table in personality terms than he or his employers think and who only really appeals to snarky "Internet Wrestling Community" (again no offence to anyone here, but..... *shudder*) fans who hang up all their "hopes"/"respect" on his vague "credibility" that he gets from being from a former indy wrestler with tattoos and a straight-edge lifestyle (a lam gimmick/personality point which seems to have absolutely no traction or relevance in the pro-wrestling arena, and is better left to being discussed/boasted about on Facebook posts, or during that really talky phase of house parties). Most of the wrestlers are effectively mutes, because they have absolutely no personality because Vince just plucked them out of college because they were big and muscly, and either left them with their plain-as-a-punch-on-the-nose real names, or gave them a terrible sounding moniker which makes them sound like a gay porn star (anyone remember Gunner Scott?). And when they do try to talk at length it's enough to drive anyone with an IQ higher than 90 to call a suicide hotline. The biggest problem of all seems to be how all the different parts of the audience like someone different. So it's hard to generate any kind of real storyline because there is no clear-cut "bad guy" or "good guy". You have Cena who appeals to kids who dream of being as annoying and unfunny as him when they grow up. CM Punk who appeals to the kind of people who send death threats to movie critics who don't give the latest Christopher Nolan movie 100% on Rotten Tomatoes, and take their South Park DVD box set to bed with them and caress it like a dying pet. And Randy Orton who appeals to girls/women who like a "bad boy" (although I'm not sure if he even does anything like that any more). And the rest of the roster are just even more horrible cases of boring, half-arsed gimmicks that go nowhere and things that would have been abandoned after two weeks in the glorious attitude era now run endlessly for months or even years without ever improving. It just says everything that they do an "old school RAW" every 3 or 6 months now, and those episodes seem to get better ratings than regular ones. They rely on nostalgia far too much. BTW if anyone wants to "correct" me on anything here I'd be glad to hear it but I think I've pretty much got it right. In case you couldn't tell I haven't watched any WWE regularly in a long time but I feel I've watched/know enough to be about right. I don't think the roster is the problem its mainly the booking and the writing, even though I think Vince does seem to have fascination with pretty boy bodybulder types since HHH has taken over a lot of Vinces duties there are a lot less of those types on the roster . The same way WCW forced them to take chances eventually they can't count on a Rock,Lesnar,Batista,Undertake etc past stars for a quick fix to be brough back for WM buys, and with the aging of Mysterio,Jerico Big Show,Kane,Henry etc they are gonna eventually have to roll the dice and sink or swim on Bryan,Ziggler,Sandow,Rhodes,Ambrose,Fandango and other new gen talent since pretty soon CM Punk and John Cena will be their only bonafide full time main event level stars. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,022 Posted June 3, 2013 Former AWA star Buck Zumhofe was arrested earlier this week for six felony counts of first-degree criminal sexual conduct and six felony counts of third-degree criminal sexual conduct. All of the charges relate to Zumhofe allegedly sexually abusing a then-underage family member numerous times starting in 1999 when she was 15. The alleged abuse grew and continued through 2011, when the woman left Zumhofe's home. The woman, now an adult, reported the crimes after seeking counseling last year. She is alleging there were over 1,800 instances of abuse over the years. Zumhofe was in court this morning in Minnesota, where the presiding Judge set his bail at $500,000 cash or bond for unconditional release. Zumhofe remains incarcerated at Kandiyohi County Jail. His next hearing is 6/10. The girl in question was his daughter, who worked as Zumhofe's manager for a while under the ringname "The Virgin". Zumhofe also promoted midget wrestling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lewd_Squirrel 309 Posted June 8, 2013 Former WCW star, Mark Starr passed away at the age of 50. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainChorizo 1,904 Posted June 10, 2013 Bobby Eaton's back "at death's door" according to the dirtsheets. Respirator, long-term hospitalised, the lot. http://www.wrestlingnewssource.com/news/29795/Minor-Update-on-the-Health-of-Wrestling-Legend-Bobby-Eaton/ He was released from hospital a few days ago and scheduled to have a pacemaker put in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR976evil 885 Posted June 10, 2013 Bobby Eaton's back "at death's door" according to the dirtsheets. Respirator, long-term hospitalised, the lot. http://www.wrestlingnewssource.com/news/29795/Minor-Update-on-the-Health-of-Wrestling-Legend-Bobby-Eaton/ He was released from hospital a few days ago and scheduled to have a pacemaker put in. Sounds like another one who could well benefit from DDP's yoga regimen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,022 Posted June 10, 2013 Bobby Eaton's back "at death's door" according to the dirtsheets. Respirator, long-term hospitalised, the lot. http://www.wrestling...nd-Bobby-Eaton/ He was released from hospital a few days ago and scheduled to have a pacemaker put in. Sounds like another one who could well benefit from DDP's yoga regimen I think he'd benefit more from laying off the fried corndogs and quaaludes. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 1,861 Posted June 11, 2013 Tammy Lynn Sytch out of prison again, also claiming that she's been diagnosed with cervical cancer. Now claiming she is cancer free. That was quick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charon 4,938 Posted June 12, 2013 - “Superstar” Billy Graham had successful Gallstone removal surgery on June 5th. He has another surgery on June 18th. Hmm, doesn't say what 2nd op is for... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_engineer 1,405 Posted June 14, 2013 Kevin Nash's former tag team partner Al green has died at 57 http://www.prowrestling.net/artman/publish/miscnews/article10031865.shtml Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR976evil 885 Posted June 14, 2013 Kevin Nash's former tag team partner Al green has died at 57 http://www.prowrestling.net/artman/publish/miscnews/article10031865.shtml That could cause some confusion... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,022 Posted June 15, 2013 Kevin Nash's former tag team partner Al green has died at 57 http://www.prowrestl...e10031865.shtml He was The Dog when WCW was really going off the wheels around 99 as well. Seem to remember him drinking from a toilet bowl in vignettes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainChorizo 1,904 Posted June 15, 2013 You could always count on him to be a pro in the ring whether times were good or bad or happy or sad. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_engineer 1,405 Posted June 24, 2013 Jackie Fargo. http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/news/17835/jackie-fargo-passes-away-at-age-85 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Zorders 1,269 Posted June 24, 2013 Jackie Fargo. http://www.ewrestlin...-away-at-age-85 Haha!! Just looked at wikipedia to find out who the hell he is, and it turns out his real name was.... well, find out for yourself. http://en.wikipedia....ki/Jackie_Fargo Not quite Dick Trickle but hilarious nonetheless. Also, as of right now, some editor genius at Wikipedia has him down as "born aged 85"... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom 2,469 Posted June 24, 2013 Jackie Fargo. http://www.ewrestlin...-away-at-age-85 Haha!! Just looked at wikipedia to find out who the hell he is, and it turns out his real name was.... well, find out for yourself. http://en.wikipedia....ki/Jackie_Fargo Not quite Dick Trickle but hilarious nonetheless. Also, as of right now, some editor genius at Wikipedia has him down as "born aged 85"... They probably haven't amended that part of the page yet. Usually the age after the place and date of birth is there if they're currently alive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charon 4,938 Posted June 24, 2013 Haven't heard how billy graham got on with his second surgery of the month....last Tuesday I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,022 Posted June 28, 2013 Matt Borne, aka Doink, has died aged 55. He had a load of drug problems in the 90s which curtailed his career in the main feds, but his legacy lives on in the endless people doing knockoff Doink gimmicks at local smalltown wrestling shows. Tears of a clown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lewd_Squirrel 309 Posted June 28, 2013 Apparently "Maniac" Matt Borne has passed away, he was also known as the original Doink the Clown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR976evil 885 Posted June 28, 2013 Matt Borne, aka Doink, has died aged 55. He had a load of drug problems in the 90s which curtailed his career in the main feds, but his legacy lives on in the endless people doing knockoff Doink gimmicks at local smalltown wrestling shows. Tears of a clown. Wonder whether WWE will acknowledge it on tv? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,022 Posted June 28, 2013 Yeah, I'd assume so. I don't think he had massive heat with the company, it was just that he wasn't a kind of guy you could rely on due to his drug issues. Now he's dead, he can't no-show/collapse on camera. Weird to think that for all his fame, his entire WWF run was less than two years. As opposed to... http://www.lolwrestling.com/howlonghasjtgbeenemployed/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR976evil 885 Posted June 28, 2013 Yeah, I'd assume so. I don't think he had massive heat with the company, it was just that he wasn't a kind of guy you could rely on due to his drug issues. Now he's dead, he can't no-show/collapse on camera. Weird to think that for all his fame, his entire WWF run was less than two years. As opposed to... http://www.lolwrestling.com/howlonghasjtgbeenemployed/ I was thinking more how they have in recent years attempted to distance themselves from the drink and drug culture in the industry, the deaths of Umaga, Lance Cade, Luna Vachon among others weren't acknowledged on tv Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom 2,469 Posted June 29, 2013 Rowdy Roddy Piper and Ric Flair have participated in an episode Celebrity Wife Swap which is due to be screened this Sunday on ABC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR976evil 885 Posted June 29, 2013 Rowdy Roddy Piper and Ric Flair have participated in an episode Celebrity Wife Swap which is due to be screened this Sunday on ABC Did Flair's marriage endure for the duration of the shoot? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom 2,469 Posted June 29, 2013 Rowdy Roddy Piper and Ric Flair have participated in an episode Celebrity Wife Swap which is due to be screened this Sunday on ABC Did Flair's marriage endure for the duration of the shoot? Presumably. I may tune in to watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR976evil 885 Posted June 29, 2013 Rowdy Roddy Piper and Ric Flair have participated in an episode Celebrity Wife Swap which is due to be screened this Sunday on ABC Did Flair's marriage endure for the duration of the shoot? Presumably. I may tune in to watch. It must have been done a while ago, I can't imagine Flair would have been up for it of late, bearing in mind recent events Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
