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1 minute ago, ECG said:

@Roy_Al You OK?

Only a bit angry with what i SEE...

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Just now, Roy_Al said:

Only a bit angry with what i SEE...

 

Fair enough, but maybe don't spam the thread with a half-dozen posts.

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Just now, ECG said:

 

Fair enough, but maybe don't spam the thread with a half-dozen posts.

OK, bye...

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Damn it, false alarm again. Thought something EXCITING happened. 

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Just now, Genfærd said:

Damn it, false alarm again. Thought something EXCITING happened. 

 

I was just thinking that a lot of people were gonna be disappointed. I do wonder if we'll hear something soon though. They can't keep quiet about the issue forever.

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Damn i got fooled again, still not dead

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16 minutes ago, Roy_Al said:

Please stop with this bullshit. Prince Philip is VERY antiracist.

So he hates racists as well as blacks. Covering all fields.

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Looking back, the last update we received was when he returned to King Edward VII Hospital on the 5th. We were told at the time that he'd be staying there for "a number of days". I suppose you could describe the period he's been in for as a number of days, but I'd have thought we'd have received another update in the mean time, even if it was just saying that he is slowly recovering and expects to leave in a couple of weeks.

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3 minutes ago, ECG said:

Looking back, the last update we received was when he returned to King Edward VII Hospital on the 5th. We were told at the time that he'd be staying there for "a number of days". I suppose you could describe the period he's been in for as a number of days, but I'd have thought we'd have received another update in the mean time, even if it was just saying that he is slowly recovering and expects to leave in a couple of weeks.

You would to be fair, if he isn’t out by the end of next week I think it’s getting to the stage were it is looking unlikely he will leave Hospital alive. The longer he is in more likely he will leave in a box. 

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On 10/03/2021 at 21:48, Lord Fellatio Nelson said:

I was never overly fussed about them or the Royal Family, If  I'm honest.

Now, however, I am fucking angry that they have hung us all out to dry with this notion that they have left the UK because we are racist ( yeah, like we ALL are) to live in a country that is less racist, obviously.

Apart from that, she has social climbed like a fucking champ and got married to a fucking chump that thinks the mental anguish he suffered following his mums coffin through London was unique to him and not his brother.

This country has its faults, lots of them but anybody that wants to trash it, like they did, and our Royal Family, OUR Royal Family, needs a swift kick in the cunt and banned from setting foot here ever again.

A pair of self serving, handwringing bastards of the highest order interviewed by a journalist so piss poor that only America could have made her a multi millionaire shit show.

I'm going to find a cat to kick.

 

 

Why don’t you stop mincing your words, your Lordship, and say what you really feel 

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On 10/03/2021 at 21:48, Lord Fellatio Nelson said:

I was never overly fussed about them or the Royal Family, If  I'm honest.

Now, however, I am fucking angry that they have hung us all out to dry with this notion that they have left the UK because we are racist ( yeah, like we ALL are) to live in a country that is less racist, obviously.

Apart from that, she has social climbed like a fucking champ and got married to a fucking chump that thinks the mental anguish he suffered following his mums coffin through London was unique to him and not his brother.

This country has its faults, lots of them but anybody that wants to trash it, like they did, and our Royal Family, OUR Royal Family, needs a swift kick in the cunt and banned from setting foot here ever again.

A pair of self serving, handwringing bastards of the highest order interviewed by a journalist so piss poor that only America could have made her a multi millionaire shit show.

I'm going to find a cat to kick.

 

 

This is a brilliant  post! Really cheered me up in a sense because  reading it was a kind of  cathartic  experience .

One thing that astonished me the most was a 36 year old man who has millions of his own  was complaining that his father had  ' literally  cut me off financially '!!

 

Has he any self awareness  at all?

I don't personally  think they are going to become as wealthy  as they make out from the Netflix  and Spotify  deals. These are smart companies and there will be very  strong terms and conditions  in the contracts  for their payments  Some reports in  publications in america  say they have been given a big budget to work with and the fee for their work is much smaller and dependent upon  whether or not they are successful. 

Netflix in particular will drop them like a hot potato  if they flounder. It seems the royal pair have vague outline  ideas of what they think will make good content in a very back of a fag packet kind of way but are using their budget to pay other people  to develop the content. 

In other words their main contribution  is their name and being royal adjacent and not their talent. 

But Hollywood and the public are fickle  and will lose interest in them quickly  enough. They are not interesting long term in their own right. Although  I do expect them to try and make more drama with the royal  family to generate interest and relevance.    However  I do think the royals are aware of this.

A happy ever happy ending  is not on the cards for this deluded  couple and frankly they don't  deserve  one.

The interview seemed to be an attempt at a  shakedown  for more money  and  titles  from the royals. 

They are a disgrace  and the public will never have the same level of affection  for Prince Harry again.

He has shat on the whole of his country for the sake of a tantrum and short term gain.

Harry and Meghan only understand tactics not strategy and they will fail against the House of Windsor. 

 

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Terrific article in the Times.  It's a long read, so I'll put in in spoiler tags.

 

Meghan and Harry blew the chance for royal renewal

The Queen’s family seems no more prejudiced than any other in multiracial Britain so a golden opportunity has been missed to normalise diversity and change the whole toxic debate around race, argues Trevor Phillips

Spoiler

 

Friday March 12 2021, 5.00pm, The Times

 

I have too much skin in the game to be neutral about the row sparked this week by the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. I am a black divorcee in a mixed-race marriage. Like Harry I have fathered two mixed-race children. Their mother is herself of mixed heritage. One daughter has recently given birth to my first grandson, a gorgeous melange of genes from four different continents, whose skin colouring may not be a million shades off Archie’s.

 

And though I have thankfully never sunk to the despair described by the duchess, our family has spent more than two decades watching helplessly as my older daughter battled a severe eating disorder. Hours before writing these words she and I bade farewell on a familiar threshold: the specialist unit to which she admits herself periodically when the daily struggle against her demons proves just too exhausting.

 

Add to all this the fact that, like the Sussexes, I have spent more time on the enemy radar of British newspapers than I would have liked, and that legitimate criticism has far too often strayed into racial prejudice that should shame those — on the left and right — who wrote it.

 

So from whatever point of view, I watched their interview with Oprah Winfrey with a deep sense of sorrow. I think there is some truth in the Sussexes’ accusations. But it could all have been so different. They, not just the palace, bear some responsibility for the blunders and misjudgments of the past three years.

 

None of us can truly know what the duke and duchess experienced when they talk about the toll on their mental health. I am no professional, and the therapy-speak they use is alien to British ears. But I do know what it feels like to have to pin your teenage child to the floor of a speeding car to prevent her throwing herself out of the door. I understand what it is to hear that she may not live long enough to go to university. I have met the girls with whom she shared the hellish wards reserved for the most distressed, and learnt not to look away when she tells me that I’ll never see one of them again because she has taken her own life. So I don’t take the duchess’s words lightly, even though her Californian vagueness on the subject doesn’t help. In my experience anyone with a diagnosable mental health condition is not only willing but eager to explain precisely what they think is wrong with them.

 

But it is hard to imagine that any family or firm, no matter how callous, would knowingly ignore such distress, as the duchess alleges happened to her. It puzzles me that the duke, having led the young royals’ Heads Together campaign, could not draw on its resources to support his own wife. This is not scepticism on my part; it is, perhaps, hope that if any good comes from this interview, it is that we become a country in which mental and emotional difficulties that affect so many cease to be silent, forbidden territory.

 

By contrast, there are no positives to draw from the duchess’s insinuations of racial prejudice within the royal family. Britain now stands in the dock internationally as a breeding ground for casual racial bigotry. Brits will see some irony here. Most of the finger pointing comes from the United States, a country where young black men are frequently gunned down by white police officers; where black families on average have one tenth of the wealth of white households; and where, outside work, people of different colours seldom mix. As for our European neighbours, aside from tiny Malta, people of colour in every EU country are more likely to report racial harassment than here in Britain; rates are over twice as high in Germany, Italy and Ireland.

 

Yet many of the duchess’s supporters have taken her words as confirmation that Britain is an irredeemably and uniquely racist society. The Sussexes told Oprah that there had been “conversations and concern” about the colour of her unborn child’s skin among unnamed royals. Crucially, because Winfrey failed to ask, we have no idea what Harry’s response was. The duchess’s enemies will quibble about the fact that she and Harry differed in their recollections of when and how many times this took place. But I believe what she says. It is almost certain that members of the family speculated about whether the child would look more like his mother or father. Any clan in which that conversation does not take place would be a pretty heartless outfit; even the Addams family were able to lampoon the inevitable cooing over their new baby :

Gomez: “He has my father’s eyes.”
Morticia: “Gomez, take them out of his mouth.”

 

But as Sir Ken Olisa, a black businessman who serves as the Queen’s lord lieutenant in London observed, we do not know the context or intent of the remarks, which makes all the difference in the world. His own (white) mother-in-law fretted for days about her first grandchild’s likely skin tone: “I just don’t know what colour wool to buy” she said to her daughter. It is equally possible that what Harry experienced was some antediluvian pearl-clutching from one of the royal family’s less sophisticated members. No tribe is without its embarrassing uncles and aunts: Windsor weddings are rich in such individuals. In such a big family, it’s likely there were conversations of both kinds.

 

Generally speaking, if both parents are Caucasian, there’s not going to be much doubt about skin tone so the talk is of eye and hair colour. Among black families like mine, we ponder other features — quality of hair, shape of the nose, hue of skin. In mixed families, the range of possibilities can be gloriously infinite. Of course, it can feel like a very different conversation depending on who is speaking. And concern might not be for the image of the family, but for the child herself.

 

The parent or grandparent of a black or mixed-race child knows that no matter how talented, intelligent or spirited your offspring, he or she will face prejudice of some form or another. One of my daughters carries my dark colouring while the other could easily pass for Spanish or Italian. At various times in their lives they have been treated differently by others. Any family that fails to confront the fact that being non-white in a largely white society will influence the life chances of even the most privileged child is simply delusional.

 

But on the evidence presented so far, the royal family looks no more or less prejudiced than any other family in multiracial Britain. However, the same cannot be said of the royal household — the palace bureaucracy. The Prince of Wales may seem an unlikely hero of wokeism but he has had his moments. After the urban riots of 1981 and 1985, Charles decided that his charities needed a more ethnically diverse leadership. One palace adviser suggested that he should take reform a little more slowly; after all, the boards had been monopolised by white Old Etonians so perhaps he should recruit the odd Old Harrovian or Wykehamist before leaping to the product of a Tottenham comprehensive? Charles ignored the advice and went ahead anyway; I became the first black face at his board table.

 

That said, it should not have been a surprise to anyone that Meghan would face a sometimes hostile press, irrespective of her colour. All female additions to the royal family have had a rough time: Diana, Fergie, Sophie bear witness to that. And who would have changed places with Camilla Parker Bowles in the wake of Diana’s death? Prominent black women, from Shirley Bassey to Diane Abbott, have been targeted at least as often. Meghan is not wrong to call out racism in the British media but it was naive to expect anything else.

 

Could things have been different? Yes, I think so. Meghan had an admirable pair of role models for being a successful “first black”: Barack and Michelle Obama. Obama’s record in office is middling to average: cautious at home, largely invisible abroad. His limited health reforms were stymied by his lousy succession planning. But none of that mattered. His main task, as far as history is concerned, was to be a successful first black president. By his eloquence, personal dignity and intelligence he effectively neutered race as a barrier to high office in America. In fact, it is unthinkable that in future any party could offer Americans a presidential ticket without at least one person of colour on the ballot. Without Obama there would be no Kamala Harris.

 

By contrast, Meghan and Harry blew the chance to normalise diversity within the royal family — an epic fail in a country where we have more people of colour in high ministerial office than the whole of the European Union put together. A Conservative administration counts among its top team Priti Patel and Kwasi Kwarteng. The electorate appears utterly undisturbed that the runaway favourite to be our next prime minister, Rishi Sunak, is the son of East African Asians. Each of these people has had to deal with dreadful treatment by the media, and not just the tabloids; Priti Patel’s portrayal as a bull with a ring through her nose by The Guardian was not only more hurtful personally but, in my view, politically far more offensive than anything levelled at Meghan. The duchess lacked a canny, steadying hand to guide and protect her. As chairman of the Commission for Racial Equality, a job which guaranteed trouble, my inner team was led by a black woman, Colleen Harris, a veteran of both No 10 and the royal household. Like me, Harris is of Guyanese heritage, leading Prince Charles to christen us the Guyanese mafia. In her first big role, in the Downing Street press office, a reporter inquired “So, if you don’t mind my asking, how black are you?”. She replied crisply “black enough” and put down the phone. Meghan could have done with some of that toughness; and, by the way, it was known to the palace that she was available.

 

Instead, Meghan has placed a bet on TV therapy. It is a poor gamble. Oprah offered the facsimile of the analyst’s couch without any of the benefits of self- examination. I cannot believe that the couple had no idea what questions would be asked. Surely their deal with the streaming service Netflix would have clauses requiring consultation on the content of such a high-stakes interview. At the very least, Netflix would have wanted to be sure that they gave away nothing that would be of subsequent value.

 

So what we witnessed felt more like a performance. Maybe I shouldn’t be surprised. This was an encounter between two accomplished actresses, one of them twice Oscar-nominated, brilliantly scripted to convey a narrative that would exalt the couple and bury the royal family. I don’t think it will work out that way. Viewers who did not come to the programme with minds already made up might have wondered why there was no mention of the duchess’s father and half-siblings, whom the Sussexes have allowed the media to present as trailer trash.

 

And Oprah missed what should have been the most important question of all. When Meghan met Harry, she claims she knew little about him or the royal family. Even so, two facts that most of the world knew about Harry were that he had once worn a Nazi uniform to a fancy dress party and that he had called a fellow army officer “my little Paki friend”. He has apologised profusely for both transgressions. But the issue was never raised by Oprah. In a world where far too many communities are divided, the story of how these young lovers managed to get past that history could have been a true moment of openness, generosity and forgiveness. Those qualities are badly needed in a world where, partly thanks to the cesspits of social media, too much bigotry still flourishes.

 

Instead we were given the Disneyfication of difference. The duke and duchess have fled the poisoned palace, leaving their relatives trapped by its dark intrigues. The account we heard of the past was a black and white story of heroes and villains, of victims and persecutors. But the reality of our modern world is a struggle for understanding between the past and the present, of failed attempts at reconciliation, of trade-offs between justice and tribal self-interest.

 

The day that Meghan and Harry wed, I believed that they might bring to life Nelson Mandela’s injunction to “let your choices reflect your hopes, not your fears”. The handsome couple baring their souls in a Californian garden wanted us to believe that they had chosen hope. But the truth told by their actions is that their flight to the west coast is really driven by bitterness, anger and fear.

 

 

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Why, why why, why why is this in Philip’s fucking thread? Meghan has her own thread full of poison. Go there instead, so that people bored of this saga can ignore it.

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On 10/03/2021 at 21:48, Lord Fellatio Nelson said:

I was never overly fussed about them or the Royal Family, If  I'm honest.

Now, however, I am fucking angry that they have hung us all out to dry with this notion that they have left the UK because we are racist ( yeah, like we ALL are) to live in a country that is less racist, obviously.

Apart from that, she has social climbed like a fucking champ and got married to a fucking chump that thinks the mental anguish he suffered following his mums coffin through London was unique to him and not his brother.

This country has its faults, lots of them but anybody that wants to trash it, like they did, and our Royal Family, OUR Royal Family, needs a swift kick in the cunt and banned from setting foot here ever again.

A pair of self serving, handwringing bastards of the highest order interviewed by a journalist so piss poor that only America could have made her a multi millionaire shit show.

I'm going to find a cat to kick.

 

 

Well a famous person identifying as (a) female (b) black and (c) suffering mental health issues didn’t get everything she wanted so naturally the whole world is to blame and owes her big time.

 

Oh, and before anyone accuses me of being a racist, misogynist or whatever, let me pre-emptively assert - go fuck yourself you patronising, po-faced woke cunt 

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6 minutes ago, The Quim Reaper said:

Why, why why, why why is this in Philip’s fucking thread? Meghan has her own thread full of poison. Go there instead, so that people bored of this saga can ignore it.

 

Completely agree.

Though on a not entirely unrelated point 40 pages of tedious speculation on Phil is hardly a more entertaining saga to ward off the that boredom.

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14 minutes ago, The Quim Reaper said:

Why, why why, why why is this in Philip’s fucking thread? Meghan has her own thread full of poison. Go there instead, so that people bored of this saga can ignore it.

 

I think there can be no doubt that they were the reason for Philip summoning Charles to his bedside.

There, back on topic.  B)

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I’m just really hoping he dies soon, not because I wish death or ill health on him but only because it would dominate the news agenda all over and relegate Harry and Meghan and all the other tedious woke agenda bullshit that dominates the mainstream media nowadays to the back pages. About how all the worlds ills and injustices are the result of white male privilege, how another public figure has been tarred and feathered for using the wrong gender pronoun or upsetting vegans, blah blah blah blah fucking blah.....

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6 hours ago, En Passant said:

 

Completely agree.

Though on a not entirely unrelated point 40 pages of tedious speculation on Phil is hardly a more entertaining saga to ward off the that boredom.


The bile spewing out of several people when it comes to M & H is deeply uncomfortable. At least if it is all contained in one festering toilet bowl of a thread, people don’t have to look at it.

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33 minutes ago, The Quim Reaper said:


The bile spewing out of several people when it comes to M & H is deeply uncomfortable. At least if it is all contained in one festering toilet bowl of a thread, people don’t have to look at it.


Whilst this isn’t untrue in general (particularly on social media and in the tabloids), *most* of the members on DL have been pretty measured and constructive in their criticism of them. Throwing in the odd joke/meme doesn’t constitute as “bile spewing” or “deeply uncomfortable” in my books.

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35 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:


Whilst this isn’t untrue in general (particularly on social media and in the tabloids), *most* of the members on DL have been pretty measured and constructive in their criticism of them. Throwing in the odd joke/meme doesn’t constitute as “bile spewing” or “deeply uncomfortable” in my books.


The attacks on her are constant. It’s deeply uncomfortable. There’s a deep-rooted hatred there, for some ominous reason. Let’s leave the whole thing alone before it gets even nastier.

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1 hour ago, The Quim Reaper said:

 

2 hours ago, Ulitzer95 said:


Whilst this isn’t untrue in general (particularly on social media and in the tabloids), *most* of the members on DL have been pretty measured and constructive in their criticism of them. Throwing in the odd joke/meme doesn’t constitute as “bile spewing” or “deeply uncomfortable” in my books.


The attacks on her are constant. It’s deeply uncomfortable. There’s a deep-rooted hatred there, for some ominous reason. Let’s leave the whole thing alone before it gets even nastier.

 


I think she’s a cunt. If that makes me a racist, I couldn’t give two sloppy shits. 
 

I think he is a cunt. If that makes me anti-ginger, I couldn’t give three sloppy shits. 
 

Also, why are you discussing Meghan on the Prince Philip thread? You obsessed or something? Do you fancy her or something? ;):lol:

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4 minutes ago, Windsor said:


I think she’s a cunt. If that makes me a racist, I couldn’t give two sloppy shits. 
 

I think he is a cunt. If that makes me anti-ginger, I couldn’t give three sloppy shits. 
 

Also, why are you discussing Meghan on the Prince Philip thread? You obsessed or something? Do you fancy her or something? ;):lol:


I didn’t mention racism. Why did you mention racism? Interesting, that...

 

I’m expressing that I’m all for stopping the stream of impotent rage going her way, because a) this is the wrong place, and b) it’s gone on long enough. Find something else to be angry about. Have you read anything other than the first few pages of The Times? There’s a lot of other shit going on, as it turns out.

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10 hours ago, JR976evil said:

I’m just really hoping he dies soon, not because I wish death or ill health on him but only because it would dominate the news agenda all over and relegate Harry and Meghan and all the other tedious woke agenda bullshit that dominates the mainstream media nowadays to the back pages. About how all the worlds ills and injustices are the result of white male privilege, how another public figure has been tarred and feathered for using the wrong gender pronoun or upsetting vegans, blah blah blah blah fucking blah.....

Tell us for bad George Soros and his reptilian anti-white agenda too.:mellow:

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1 hour ago, The Quim Reaper said:
1 hour ago, Windsor said:


I think she’s a cunt. If that makes me a racist, I couldn’t give two sloppy shits. 
 

I think he is a cunt. If that makes me anti-ginger, I couldn’t give three sloppy shits. 
 

Also, why are you discussing Meghan on the Prince Philip thread? You obsessed or something? Do you fancy her or something? ;):lol:


I didn’t mention racism. Why did you mention racism? Interesting, that...

 

Well if you didn't mention it it mustn't be part of the wider allegation as to why so many of us dislike what she has done. Twerp.

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16 minutes ago, Windsor said:

 

Well if you didn't mention it it mustn't be part of the wider allegation as to why so many of us dislike what she has done. Twerp.


What has she done that warrants such venom?

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