Ulitzer95 12,596 Posted February 20, 2021 Well no presenters in black on the BBC I’m watching. Just spoke to my friend the former Royal butler. He doubts the perception some have that the Duke is seriously unwell, citing the fact that the Queen is absent and the fact that Philip walked into the hospital unaided. More importantly, he also said if anything does happen to the Duke after the 10pm news, it won’t be reported until 8am. 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,588 Posted February 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, DCI Frank Burnside said: That's an interesting one. Peter Sissons announced the Queen Mother's death but don't know if he just happened to be on presenting duties that day anyway Martyn Lewis was called into to front the coverage relating to Diana. Granted that was in the middle of the night Sissons was on Duty. Lewis just happened to live near TVC so was able to come in - announce the crash - go home- come back to announce the death, 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted February 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Windsor said: Yes, but in the days before her death the Royal Household didn't issue a statement saying "Aye, she's fucked noo". Albeit a much-loved public figure, she also wasn't the consort of the reigning monarch. And neither did they say 'she's in good spirits'. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kenny 283 Posted February 20, 2021 37 minutes ago, soapywater said: BBC would get Huw or Fiona in for this news I hope that it's neither of the gruesome twosome. Huw Edwards has a massive Welsh inferiority complex. His tailor must have big problems with the massive chip on his shoulder. Fiona Bruce is a vain narcissist who can't get that smug smirk off her face. But she is better than Emily Maitliss who looks and sounds like a a neurotic cokehead. My vote goes to Clive Myrie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windsor 2,233 Posted February 20, 2021 Just now, RoverAndOut said: Albeit a much-loved public figure, she also wasn't the consort of the reigning monarch. At the time of her death she was the most beloved member of the Royal Family (bar Diana's ghost). She was a Queen and former Empress, both of which outranks Philips status. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,443 Posted February 20, 2021 Despite folk knowing she was frail, there was nowt on Margaret until she died - likely as her final illness was relatively quick. There was regular bulletins on George VI but...the last ones had been of improved health as it wasn't the cancer which did for him in the end, it was heart failure brought on by it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LovelyVincent 25 Posted February 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, Windsor said: Yes, but in the days before her death the Royal Household didn't issue a statement saying "Aye, she's fucked noo". Aye it was just mentioned she wasnt in the best of health but no news that she was "entering her final journey" or any of that bs from the 1930s then they literally killed the King to make the newspapers. Apparently the Queen Mother knew she was on her way out for so long she got people around individually to say goodbye. Could Phillip be doing the same now? Saying goodbye to people in advance? If so you'd have to wonder why he's staying in a hospital rather than going home. I'm trying to think of why they may do this in a pandemic but can't think of any...all in all lets be honest he'll probably be out laughing in front of the cameras in a few days 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted February 20, 2021 Just now, LovelyVincent said: Could Phillip be doing the same now? Saying goodbye to people in advance? If so you'd have to wonder why he's staying in a hospital rather than going home. I'm trying to think of why they may do this in a pandemic but can't think of any...all in all lets be honest he'll probably be out laughing in front of the cameras in a few days This. Exactly this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windsor 2,233 Posted February 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, RoverAndOut said: 3 minutes ago, LovelyVincent said: Could Phillip be doing the same now? Saying goodbye to people in advance? If so you'd have to wonder why he's staying in a hospital rather than going home. I'm trying to think of why they may do this in a pandemic but can't think of any...all in all lets be honest he'll probably be out laughing in front of the cameras in a few days This. Exactly this If he was dying he wouldn't have been taken to hospital. They would rather he pegged it at Windsor - it looks better to history. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,140 Posted February 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, RoverAndOut said: Albeit a much-loved public figure, she also wasn't the consort of the reigning monarch. And neither did they say 'she's in good spirits'. No, just knocking them back. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCI Frank Burnside 3,887 Posted February 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, msc said: Despite folk knowing she was frail, there was nowt on Margaret until she died - likely as her final illness was relatively quick. There was regular bulletins on George VI but...the last ones had been of improved health as it wasn't the cancer which did for him in the end, it was heart failure brought on by it. Yep that's my recollection too. Turned on the Television on a Saturday morning and the BBC were reporting it. To the best of my recollection there wasn't a huge amount of talk about her prior to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,588 Posted February 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, msc said: Despite folk knowing she was frail, there was nowt on Margaret until she died - likely as her final illness was relatively quick. There was regular bulletins on George VI but...the last ones had been of improved health as it wasn't the cancer which did for him in the end, it was heart failure brought on by it. She had a stroke Friday daytime - had heart problems- died early hours of Sunday morning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,588 Posted February 20, 2021 Can't imagine the Sunday Times would print that if it's likely by the time many people read it Philip is dead. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,443 Posted February 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Toast said: No, just knocking them back. Ah my favourite Queen Mum story in one of those books about the royal family. Someone gifted her a vast amount of champagne ahead of a family visit in her 90s, and she thanked them and said "And if they don't show up, I'll polish it off myself!" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lafaucheuse 4,046 Posted February 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, Windsor said: If he was dying he wouldn't have been taken to hospital. They would rather he pegged it at Windsor - it looks better to history. What could also have happened is that he rushed to the hospital bc he wasn’t feeling well, but his condition worsened so they kept him there and won’t bring him back Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ECG 32 Posted February 20, 2021 Just now, The Old Crem said: Can't imagine the Sunday Times would print that if it's likely by the time many people read it Philip is dead. Well it would ring alarm bells if they didn't publish a front page, so there best off taking an article which would be going on their website anyway, and using that as a placeholder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,588 Posted February 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, ECG said: Well it would ring alarm bells if they didn't publish a front page, so there best off taking an article which would be going on their website anyway, and using that as a placeholder. I don't mean changing it but say if he dies at 2pm tomorrow a lot of people don't read the papers till the evening - that headline seems very trivial if that is the case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YouOnlyDieOnce 89 Posted February 20, 2021 I wonder if our National Grid will cope with the spike in demand with all those TVs and Radios switched on at 07:59 tomorrow morning. I'd better put the kettle on at 07:54 just in case. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ECG 32 Posted February 20, 2021 1 minute ago, The Old Crem said: I don't mean changing it but say if he dies at 2pm tomorrow a lot of people don't read the papers till the evening - that headline seems very trivial if that is the case. Very true, but I reckon that given how the Royal Family has been quite hush-hush about the matter, most readers would probably take the view that the publishers couldn't have known about the death before publication. Despite the speculation online, people appreciate news organisations holding themselves to slightly higher standards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCI Frank Burnside 3,887 Posted February 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, Lafaucheuse said: What could also have happened is that he rushed to the hospital bc he wasn’t feeling well, but his condition worsened so they kept him there and won’t bring him back This is what I'm thinking is a possibility as well 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ECG 32 Posted February 20, 2021 1 minute ago, YouOnlyDieOnce said: I wonder if our National Grid will cope with the spike in demand with all those TVs and Radios switched on at 07:59 tomorrow morning. I'd better put the kettle on at 07:54 just in case. They cope with the EastEnders spike. If push comes to shove, they'll just have to get some extra generators on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ECG 32 Posted February 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, DCI Frank Burnside said: This is what I'm thinking is a possibility as well I could see that been the case. The Royal Family have also seemed keen to be leading by example, and following the same rules as everybody. As a result, they might have decided to say their goodbyes over video call (like many other families) and have Philip's son be the one person to go in and say his goodbyes in person. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted February 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, ECG said: I could see that been the case. The Royal Family have also seemed keen to be leading by example, and following the same rules as everybody. As a result, they might have decided to say their goodbyes over video call (like many other families) and have Philip's son be the one person to go in and say his goodbyes in person. I'll say again, if that was the case (and a very logical case it sounds on the surface), I don't see what they're gaining by keeping everybody in the dark. It's not a secret that Prince Charles has visited. It's not a secret that Prince Philip is in hospital. It's not a secret he's a 99-year-old man in declining health. If that's what was happening, they'd tell us that's what's happening and we'd all wait for the inevitable. Why on earth would there be all the cloak and dagger? And not just that, but the deliberate false information that it's 'out of an abundance of caution' that he's in hospital in the first place. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kenny 283 Posted February 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, ECG said: I could see that been the case. The Royal Family have also seemed keen to be leading by example, and following the same rules as everybody. As a result, they might have decided to say their goodbyes over video call (like many other families) and have Philip's son be the one person to go in and say his goodbyes in person. Unlikely. The rules for a Royal consort will be different to us plebs aka Her Majesty's loyal subjects. If Phil the Greek is on the way out, the Queen would visit him if only for the PR. And are you suggesting that Andrew is not his son? I would expect Princess Anne and his grandchildren to visit him too. But I'm just an ordinary prole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ECG 32 Posted February 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Kenny said: Unlikely. The rules for a Royal consort will be different to us plebs aka Her Majesty's loyal subjects. If Phil the Greek is on the way out, the Queen would visit him if only for the PR. And are you suggesting that Andrew is not his son? I would expect Princess Anne and his grandchildren to visit him too. But I'm just an ordinary prole. I dunno. Like the rest of us, I'm just taking a semi-educated guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites