Sir Creep 7,070 Posted January 19, 2021 'Pro Life' (whatever) is bigotry? This thread just spun out of control. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,391 Posted January 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sir Creep said: 'Pro Life' (whatever) is bigotry? This thread just spun out of control. Read the post before yours. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCI Frank Burnside 3,887 Posted January 19, 2021 Anytime I see this thread bumped I think we've finally gotten the good news about Rush 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocinante 1 Posted February 18, 2021 When you look at the definition of the word Bigot it could apply to anyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,391 Posted February 18, 2021 36 minutes ago, Rocinante said: When you look at the definition of the word Bigot it could apply to anyone. Explain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drol 11,945 Posted February 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, The Quim Reaper said: Explain. Shut up bigot. 1 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,140 Posted February 18, 2021 Oxford English Dictionary: bigot, n. 1. A religious hypocrite; (also) a superstitious adherent of religion. Obsolete. 2. a. A person considered to adhere unreasonably or obstinately to a particular religious belief, practice, etc. b. In extended use: a fanatical adherent or believer; a person characterized by obstinate, intolerant, or strongly partisan beliefs. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harrymcnallysblueandwhitearmy 1,689 Posted February 18, 2021 He's probably using that mace to enforce his religious beliefs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
One shot Paddy 1,206 Posted February 18, 2021 Whenever somone says a person was bigoted I always think of them being skewered by the mad OSS/CIA captive piston dart thing for the 1911 pistol . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocinante 1 Posted February 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Toast said: Oxford English Dictionary: bigot, n. 1. A religious hypocrite; (also) a superstitious adherent of religion. Obsolete. 2. a. A person considered to adhere unreasonably or obstinately to a particular religious belief, practice, etc. b. In extended use: a fanatical adherent or believer; a person characterized by obstinate, intolerant, or strongly partisan beliefs. Put Bigot into Google and you get this..... it's not about religion bigot /ˈbɪɡət/ noun noun: bigot; plural noun: bigots a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic towards a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,391 Posted February 18, 2021 25 minutes ago, Rocinante said: Put Bigot into Google and you get this..... it's not about religion bigot /ˈbɪɡət/ noun noun: bigot; plural noun: bigots a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic towards a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group. Okay, so working with this definition and bearing the second part of it in mind, explain how you could call anyone a bigot (rather than just, y’know, actual bigots). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,140 Posted February 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Rocinante said: Put Bigot into Google and you get this..... it's not about religion That's the original meaning of the word, which can still apply. Look at definition 2b. That covers the more general usage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocinante 1 Posted February 19, 2021 13 hours ago, The Quim Reaper said: Okay, so working with this definition and bearing the second part of it in mind, explain how you could call anyone a bigot (rather than just, y’know, actual bigots). Just read the words. Everyone belongs to a group or faction. Male - Female - trans or left - right - centrist. By that definition you can be called a bigot by an opposing faction for example if you stir your coffee anti clockwise. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,391 Posted February 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Rocinante said: Just read the words. Everyone belongs to a group or faction. Male - Female - trans or left - right - centrist. By that definition you can be called a bigot by an opposing faction for example if you stir your coffee anti clockwise. That is absolute tripe. I advise you to read the words again. Let’s use your example of naming genders as “factions”. I’m male. I’m not unreasonably attached to that, it’s just a fact, in the senses of both biology and self-identification. And me belonging to the male “faction” does not mean I am prejudiced against or antagonistic towards other genders; that is bigotry. Bigotry isn’t inherent in being part of one “faction”. Bigotry is being utterly intolerant of and prejudiced against other ones. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
En Passant 3,741 Posted February 19, 2021 This is a bigot, dog. The argument all rests around the definition of reasonable/unreasonable and prejudiced/unbiased surely? Which is presumably why 'reasonable' is written into so many laws, so they can spend days attacking each other over whether it was or wasn't in court. It's a good living for some. Anyone can belong to a group. I belong to the group that thinks the KKK is an extremely unpleasant organisation. Most folks see that as reasonable, objective and unbiased. I suppose some don't and would call me bigoted. I can live with that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,970 Posted February 19, 2021 1 hour ago, The Quim Reaper said: I’m male. Fascist! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,391 Posted February 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, gcreptile said: Fascist! Cue new idiot interpreting the definition of fascism to mean that every fucker is one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harrymcnallysblueandwhitearmy 1,689 Posted February 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, The Quim Reaper said: Cue new idiot interpreting the definition of fascism to mean that every fucker is one. Idiot-shamer! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocinante 1 Posted February 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, The Quim Reaper said: Cue new idiot interpreting the definition of fascism to mean that every fucker is one. Which is exactly my point Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,391 Posted February 19, 2021 Just now, Rocinante said: Which is exactly my point What is? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocinante 1 Posted February 19, 2021 1 hour ago, The Quim Reaper said: I’m male. You can't talk about biology and gender self identification without antagonizing someone. Bigot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,391 Posted February 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Rocinante said: You can't talk about biology and gender self identification without antagonizing someone. Bigot. That is a complete lapse in logic. What a dickhead*. *Not to be confused with bigotry; someone else having the intelligence of an onion does not make the people who recognise this bigots. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Creep 7,070 Posted February 19, 2021 When someone tries to redefine a word it’s only because they are uncomfortable with its present meaning, quite consciously as it applies to them. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocinante 1 Posted February 19, 2021 7 hours ago, The Quim Reaper said: That is a complete lapse in logic. What a dickhead*. *Not to be confused with bigotry; someone else having the intelligence of an onion does not make the people who recognise this bigots. So do you think biology dictates gender? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
