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'Pro Life' (whatever) is bigotry?  This thread just spun out of control.

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3 minutes ago, Sir Creep said:

'Pro Life' (whatever) is bigotry?  This thread just spun out of control.


Read the post before yours.

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When you look at the definition of the word Bigot it could apply to anyone.

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36 minutes ago, Rocinante said:

When you look at the definition of the word Bigot it could apply to anyone.


Explain.

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3 minutes ago, The Quim Reaper said:


Explain.

Shut up bigot.

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Oxford English Dictionary:

 

bigot,  n.

 

1. A religious hypocrite; (also) a superstitious adherent of religion. Obsolete.

2.  

a. A person considered to adhere unreasonably or obstinately to a particular religious belief, practice, etc.

b. In extended use: a fanatical adherent or believer; a person characterized by obstinate, intolerant, or strongly partisan beliefs.

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Whenever somone says a person was bigoted I always think of them being skewered by the mad OSS/CIA captive piston dart thing for the 1911 pistol .

 

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1 hour ago, Toast said:

Oxford English Dictionary:

 

bigot,  n.

 

1. A religious hypocrite; (also) a superstitious adherent of religion. Obsolete.

2.  

a. A person considered to adhere unreasonably or obstinately to a particular religious belief, practice, etc.

b. In extended use: a fanatical adherent or believer; a person characterized by obstinate, intolerant, or strongly partisan beliefs.

Put Bigot into Google and you get this..... it's not about religion 

bigot
/ˈbɪɡət/
 
noun
noun: bigot; plural noun: bigots
  1. a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic towards a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.

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25 minutes ago, Rocinante said:

Put Bigot into Google and you get this..... it's not about religion 

bigot
/ˈbɪɡət/
 
noun
noun: bigot; plural noun: bigots
  1. a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic towards a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.


Okay, so working with this definition and bearing the second part of it in mind, explain how you could call anyone a bigot (rather than just, y’know, actual bigots).

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1 hour ago, Rocinante said:

Put Bigot into Google and you get this..... it's not about religion

 

That's the original meaning of the word, which can still apply.

Look at definition 2b.  That covers the more general usage.

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13 hours ago, The Quim Reaper said:


Okay, so working with this definition and bearing the second part of it in mind, explain how you could call anyone a bigot (rather than just, y’know, actual bigots).

Just read the words. Everyone belongs to a group or faction. Male - Female - trans or left - right - centrist. By that definition you can be called a bigot by an opposing faction for example if you stir your coffee anti clockwise. 

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2 hours ago, Rocinante said:

Just read the words. Everyone belongs to a group or faction. Male - Female - trans or left - right - centrist. By that definition you can be called a bigot by an opposing faction for example if you stir your coffee anti clockwise. 


That is absolute tripe. I advise you to read the words again.

 

Let’s use your example of naming genders as “factions”. I’m male. I’m not unreasonably attached to that, it’s just a fact, in the senses of both biology and self-identification. And me belonging to the male “faction” does not mean I am prejudiced against or antagonistic towards other genders; that is bigotry. Bigotry isn’t inherent in being part of one “faction”. Bigotry is being utterly intolerant of and prejudiced against other ones.

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This is a bigot, dog.

 

 

 

 

The argument all rests around the definition of reasonable/unreasonable and prejudiced/unbiased surely? Which is presumably why 'reasonable' is written into so many laws, so they can spend days attacking each other over whether it was or wasn't  in court. It's a good living for some.

Anyone can belong to a group. I belong to the group that thinks the KKK is an extremely unpleasant organisation. Most folks see that as reasonable, objective and unbiased. I suppose some don't and would call me bigoted. I can live with that.

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1 hour ago, The Quim Reaper said:

I’m male.

Fascist!

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6 minutes ago, gcreptile said:

Fascist!


Cue new idiot interpreting the definition of fascism to mean that every fucker is one.

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5 minutes ago, The Quim Reaper said:


Cue new idiot interpreting the definition of fascism to mean that every fucker is one.

Which is exactly my point

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Just now, Rocinante said:

Which is exactly my point


What is?

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1 hour ago, The Quim Reaper said:

I’m male. 

You can't talk about biology and gender self identification without antagonizing someone. Bigot. :P

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2 minutes ago, Rocinante said:

You can't talk about biology and gender self identification without antagonizing someone. Bigot. :P


That is a complete lapse in logic. What a dickhead*.
 

*Not to be confused with bigotry; someone else having the intelligence of an onion does not make the people who recognise this bigots.

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When someone tries to redefine a word it’s only because they are uncomfortable with its present meaning, quite consciously as it applies to them.

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7 hours ago, The Quim Reaper said:


That is a complete lapse in logic. What a dickhead*.
 

*Not to be confused with bigotry; someone else having the intelligence of an onion does not make the people who recognise this bigots.

So do you think biology dictates gender?

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