The Old Crem 3,605 Posted March 1 I feel like attacking. George Galloway like this only makes him more powerful. Galloway is scum but he has a knack of whipping people up and attracting support. Much of the white progressive far left had turned on him over his transphobia and other comments but this might see them ignore that and get back cosy with him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,605 Posted March 1 https://x.com/kateferguson4/status/1763623900443717991?s=20 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Commtech Sio Bibble 2,052 Posted March 1 What a load of nationalist, Islamophobic drivel 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,054 Posted March 1 What a pile of utter wankspeak. What he describes is not the country I live in, nor my community. This is fearmongering shite, designed to heighten differences and divisions, not ameliorate them. What an utter, utter little Londoner narrow minded pile of garbage. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,605 Posted March 1 1 minute ago, YoungWillz said: What a pile of utter wankspeak. What he describes is not the country I live in, nor my community. This is fearmongering shite, designed to heighten differences and divisions, not ameliorate them. What an utter, utter little Londoner narrow minded pile of garbage. I don’t think Sunak is a little Londoner. Someone with a London mindset would much more liberal. London is as liberal as Glasgow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
time 8,617 Posted March 1 A call for 'unity' by a divisive government is about par for the course. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,054 Posted March 1 Just now, The Old Crem said: I don’t think Sunak is a little Londoner. Someone with a London mindset would much more liberal. London is as liberal as Glasgow. That's not what I meant. He can't see beyond his own horizon, emphasising what happens in London is more important than any other part of the nation. I could have said little Englander, but that would be unfair to the vast majority of that great country. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,605 Posted March 1 1 minute ago, time said: A call for 'unity' by a divisive government is about par for the course. They probably want a backlash so they can propose further policies in a few weeks time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,605 Posted March 1 11 minutes ago, Commtech Sio Bibble said: What a load of nationalist, Islamophobic drivel Labour will back every word of the speech I would imagine. And Keir Starmer wouldn’t say anything really different. I suspect it will be utterly pointless. Some clips will be shown on the news but people are bored of it all. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Commtech Sio Bibble 2,052 Posted March 1 One minute he was saying how he didn't want Jewish or Muslim women and children feeling unsafe and being targeted, and then next minute he was saying how Islamist groups are a risk to the nation. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,605 Posted March 1 Just now, Commtech Sio Bibble said: One minute he was saying how he didn't want Jewish or Muslim women and children feeling unsafe and being targeted, and then next minute he was saying how Islamist groups are a risk to the nation. But that is accurate? Sadly it is near impossible to call out Islamists without sounding somewhat anti Muslim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Commtech Sio Bibble 2,052 Posted March 1 Just now, The Old Crem said: Labour will back every word of the speech I would imagine. And Keir Starmer wouldn’t say anything really different. Most likely, I'd call them 2 sides of the same coin but I at this point I don't even think the coin has a second side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad252 807 Posted March 1 11 minutes ago, The Old Crem said: https://x.com/kateferguson4/status/1763623900443717991?s=20 He could start by putting Braverman through the Prevent programme. I wouldn't be surprised if the programme has received less extreme individuals than her before. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted March 1 Time for an end to the divisiveness but Lee Anderson wasn't Islamophobic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Commtech Sio Bibble 2,052 Posted March 1 1 minute ago, The Old Crem said: But that is accurate? Sadly it is near impossible to call out Islamists without sounding somewhat anti Muslim. It is certainly accurate to say that there are extreme groups who are Muslim, but what he did was target those muslim groups over anyone else. He was very vague throughout most of the speech, the only groups he mentioned by names were 'far right groups' and 'Islamists' and continued to hammer home his point on Islamists. There are extreme parts of every group but his continuous mentioning of Islamists over any other group is dangerous. Hate crimes against Muslim people are already widespread and his targeting is only going to make the problem worse. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
time 8,617 Posted March 1 Given both the timing and the (lack of) content, the statement almost feels like a distraction from something... but what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Commtech Sio Bibble 2,052 Posted March 1 Oh and there was that ironic moment where he said that MPs feel unsafe and then imminently after started attacking George Galloway. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,399 Posted March 1 God sake everyone. You quoting Crem is ruining my having him on ignore. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
En Passant 3,741 Posted March 1 19 minutes ago, TQR said: God sake everyone. You quoting Crem is ruining my having him on ignore. I'm absolutely not going to say I told you so. No sirree. Never. It's childish. Edit: Ok technically it was about it ruining the continuity, but same thing really. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,605 Posted March 1 41 minutes ago, Commtech Sio Bibble said: Most likely, I'd call them 2 sides of the same coin but I at this point I don't even think the coin has a second side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
time 8,617 Posted March 1 38 minutes ago, Commtech Sio Bibble said: Oh and there was that ironic moment where he said that MPs feel unsafe and then imminently after started attacking George Galloway. If Sunak is that worried about Galloway, call a GE, because the chances are he'd get voted out again. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Obit 831 Posted March 1 I've been much too generous by not muting TOC. Can finally not see twatter links everywhere. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,605 Posted March 1 There is lots of speculation tonight on Twitter that an Election could be called for May if the Budget gives the Tories a polling boost. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites