Political Discussions And Ranting Thread

[The Old Crem 3,611]

5 minutes ago, msc said:

The euthanasia second reading passed with a majority of 55 despite projections from the forum Nostradamus.

Pretty much everyone expected it be closer through the Bill’s supporters always seemed more confident (And had better organisation because the opposition to it arguably a broader mix of the political spectrum which means more disconnected) 

 

I’m glad I’m not an MP because I would probably abstain as I think the Bill is quite flawed but I can’t say I wouldn’t consider an assisted death. 

[Brad252 809]

Good to see it passed, surprised in a way as it looked like it might not given (unhelpful) interventions like that from Streeting.

[Toast 16,170]

Euthanasia has been going on here for years.  When people are close to death they are often helped on their way by an overgenerous dose of morphine.  It's just not mentioned.

[The Old Crem 3,611]

Doesn’t seem likely Scotland will introduce its own form as the SNP as a party is very split as well 

[Sod's Law 452]

I'm satisfied but also surprised as I would have bet good money that this bill would be defeated. I could never understand why we put animals with terminal illnesses and injuries down so they don't suffer but we won't do the same with human beings in an even worse state who are capable of giving consent in a way an animal couldn't.

[Sod's Law 452]

3 minutes ago, The Old Crem said:

Doesn’t seem likely Scotland will introduce its own form as the SNP as a party is very split as well 

I still think it's a weird constitutional anomaly that the Scottish MPs can vote on a bill which doesn't affect their country at all, especially on such an emotive one. And they can't vote on a piece of legislation which only affects their country. 

[The Old Crem 3,611]

44 minutes ago, Sod's Law said:

I still think it's a weird constitutional anomaly that the Scottish MPs can vote on a bill which doesn't affect their country at all, especially on such an emotive one. And they can't vote on a piece of legislation which only affects their country. 

Their had the EVEL rules for a while but it was scrapped a while back. 

[Great Uncle Bulgaria 1,298]

44 minutes ago, The Old Crem said:

Their had the EVEL rules for a while

Yes, they could vote on Scottish matters provided they jumped over 7 double deckers on a motorbike first.

[maryportfuncity 10,662]

Sunday Times front page this morning suggests Elon Musk is preparing to donate $100 million to Reform UK (throgh his X platform to get round rules about foreign investment directly into UK political parties). Point being - obviously - to ensure Reform win the next election. 

 

I predict nowt other than if this happens then this here thread will get even livelier!

 

[The Old Crem 3,611]

This is quite the poll

[Sly Ronnie 893]

On 29/11/2024 at 16:23, Sod's Law said:

I still think it's a weird constitutional anomaly that the Scottish MPs can vote on a bill which doesn't affect their country at all, especially on such an emotive one. And they can't vote on a piece of legislation which only affects their country. 

 

Yes it's a situation known as "the West Lothian question".

[The Old Crem 3,611]

https://news.sky.com/story/something-remarkable-is-happening-with-gen-z-is-reform-uk-winning-the-bro-vote-13265490
Sky News investigates if Reform is winning the young men vote or not.

[gcreptile 10,994]

The South Korean president has declared martial law, so the military has suspended all parliamentary activity - where, surprise, the opposition to the president had the majority:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/dec/03/south-korea-declares-emergency-martial-law-yoon-suk-yeol-north-korea-latest-updates

 

The president implies that the opposition consists of pro-North Korean forces.

[Summer in Transylvania 2,193]

Welsh Tory leader Andrew RT Davies quits.

 

That means only the Northern Ireland Conservatives have a leader who was in the same position at the start of the year.

[Insane 349]

2 hours ago, gcreptile said:

The South Korean president has declared martial law, so the military has suspended all parliamentary activity - where, surprise, the opposition to the president had the majority:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/dec/03/south-korea-declares-emergency-martial-law-yoon-suk-yeol-north-korea-latest-updates

 

The president implies that the opposition consists of pro-North Korean forces.

Got lifted unanimously 

[The Old Crem 3,611]

French government has collapsed. Will Macron drop anitner bomb and resign and trigger an immediate presidential election that Le Pen would on polls likely win.