The Old Crem 3,621 Posted November 29 5 minutes ago, msc said: The euthanasia second reading passed with a majority of 55 despite projections from the forum Nostradamus. Pretty much everyone expected it be closer through the Bill’s supporters always seemed more confident (And had better organisation because the opposition to it arguably a broader mix of the political spectrum which means more disconnected) I’m glad I’m not an MP because I would probably abstain as I think the Bill is quite flawed but I can’t say I wouldn’t consider an assisted death. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad252 819 Posted November 29 Good to see it passed, surprised in a way as it looked like it might not given (unhelpful) interventions like that from Streeting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,196 Posted November 29 Euthanasia has been going on here for years. When people are close to death they are often helped on their way by an overgenerous dose of morphine. It's just not mentioned. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,621 Posted November 29 Doesn’t seem likely Scotland will introduce its own form as the SNP as a party is very split as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sod's Law 452 Posted November 29 I'm satisfied but also surprised as I would have bet good money that this bill would be defeated. I could never understand why we put animals with terminal illnesses and injuries down so they don't suffer but we won't do the same with human beings in an even worse state who are capable of giving consent in a way an animal couldn't. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sod's Law 452 Posted November 29 3 minutes ago, The Old Crem said: Doesn’t seem likely Scotland will introduce its own form as the SNP as a party is very split as well I still think it's a weird constitutional anomaly that the Scottish MPs can vote on a bill which doesn't affect their country at all, especially on such an emotive one. And they can't vote on a piece of legislation which only affects their country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,621 Posted November 29 44 minutes ago, Sod's Law said: I still think it's a weird constitutional anomaly that the Scottish MPs can vote on a bill which doesn't affect their country at all, especially on such an emotive one. And they can't vote on a piece of legislation which only affects their country. Their had the EVEL rules for a while but it was scrapped a while back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Great Uncle Bulgaria 1,305 Posted November 29 44 minutes ago, The Old Crem said: Their had the EVEL rules for a while Yes, they could vote on Scottish matters provided they jumped over 7 double deckers on a motorbike first. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,671 Posted December 1 Sunday Times front page this morning suggests Elon Musk is preparing to donate $100 million to Reform UK (throgh his X platform to get round rules about foreign investment directly into UK political parties). Point being - obviously - to ensure Reform win the next election. I predict nowt other than if this happens then this here thread will get even livelier! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,621 Posted December 1 This is quite the poll Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sly Ronnie 909 Posted December 1 On 29/11/2024 at 16:23, Sod's Law said: I still think it's a weird constitutional anomaly that the Scottish MPs can vote on a bill which doesn't affect their country at all, especially on such an emotive one. And they can't vote on a piece of legislation which only affects their country. Yes it's a situation known as "the West Lothian question". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,621 Posted December 3 https://news.sky.com/story/something-remarkable-is-happening-with-gen-z-is-reform-uk-winning-the-bro-vote-13265490 Sky News investigates if Reform is winning the young men vote or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 11,036 Posted December 3 The South Korean president has declared martial law, so the military has suspended all parliamentary activity - where, surprise, the opposition to the president had the majority: https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/dec/03/south-korea-declares-emergency-martial-law-yoon-suk-yeol-north-korea-latest-updates The president implies that the opposition consists of pro-North Korean forces. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Summer in Transylvania 2,204 Posted December 3 Welsh Tory leader Andrew RT Davies quits. That means only the Northern Ireland Conservatives have a leader who was in the same position at the start of the year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Insane 354 Posted December 3 2 hours ago, gcreptile said: The South Korean president has declared martial law, so the military has suspended all parliamentary activity - where, surprise, the opposition to the president had the majority: https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/dec/03/south-korea-declares-emergency-martial-law-yoon-suk-yeol-north-korea-latest-updates The president implies that the opposition consists of pro-North Korean forces. Got lifted unanimously Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,621 Posted Wednesday at 19:42 French government has collapsed. Will Macron drop anitner bomb and resign and trigger an immediate presidential election that Le Pen would on polls likely win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,621 Posted Thursday at 14:15 That’s a bombshell poll. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,614 Posted Thursday at 14:36 16 minutes ago, The Old Crem said: That’s a bombshell poll. It is one poll and Kier Starmer has time on his side. He has four years to do something. A lot of people are really upset at the moment and there is probably and underlying fear that KS will start back sliding on Brexit. This will only really begin to matter if the disparate Reform vote begins to have some genuine successes at the Ballot box in council and parliamentary by-elections or there is a coming together on the right. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,671 Posted Thursday at 22:21 7 hours ago, Bibliogryphon said: It is one poll and Kier Starmer has time on his side. He has four years to do something. A lot of people are really upset at the moment and there is probably and underlying fear that KS will start back sliding on Brexit. This will only really begin to matter if the disparate Reform vote begins to have some genuine successes at the Ballot box in council and parliamentary by-elections or there is a coming together on the right. To be fair the real story here is the rise and rise of Reform - Politico poll of pools taking in period from just before the election to today. This is - likely as not - a recipe for chaos with many candidates capable of squeezing in to unikely seats as other parties split votes that would traditionally have elected either Labour or Tories. Still, probably, more likely that such behaviour is a danger to Conservative seats, those places where people vote against Tories have a good awareness of which candidate would most likely win on the back of such tactical voting. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,621 Posted yesterday at 10:44 Is Keir Starmer hoping to only be a 1 term PM. His frequent absences have cut through yet he is still constantly abroad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,614 Posted yesterday at 12:40 1 hour ago, The Old Crem said: Is Keir Starmer hoping to only be a 1 term PM. His frequent absences have cut through yet he is still constantly abroad. The lsst four PMs served less than a full term Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,621 Posted yesterday at 14:22 1 hour ago, Bibliogryphon said: The lsst four PMs served less than a full term But Starmer clearly wants two but at the moment he is not doing much to at least remain as popular as he was in July. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JQW 286 Posted yesterday at 14:52 Said the least popular person on this site.... 2 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thatcher 2,448 Posted 22 hours ago 9.30am, Radio 4 - Pat McFadden, Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, states it ‘should be a relatively swift decision’ to change the proscribed status of the HTS rebel group in Syria. 5.00pm, ITV - Prime Minister states no decision is pending at all on this and we shouldn’t get ahead of ourselves. In other news, Foreign Secretary on his feet in the Commons talking about an increase in asylum claims from Syria due to the the present circumstances. Meanwhile, Home Office simultaneously announces that they have suspended all Syrian asylum claims. So pleased to have adults back in charge with clear joined up communications. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladyfiona 2,637 Posted 21 hours ago My team leader/manager makes Priti Patel's views look tame. She views me as this woke person just because I like people to have human rights. I didn't even vote Labour and she thinks i'm in love with Kier Starmer, lol. Anyway, with the Syria stuff going on I said some people who left and came here may go back to Syria now. She was like "good, make sure they go back within the month" but with a racist undertone. I then said "though given how much building infrastructure and political instability there is right now. Maybe give things a chance to settle down so Syrian government...actually is set up properly. People may not even have homes to go back to." "I don't care, it's not our problem." 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites