Donald J Trump

[Life Is Beautiful 716]

2 hours ago, livingbygrace said:

Never will rely on polls myself.  2016 Hilary was supposed to win. 2020 many people and polls said Trump was supposed to win reelection..  I now vote who I would like but just let the chips fall as they will.  Nothing is guaranteed or even an easy win when it comes to U.S elections. We are too much a divided country when it comes to political matters.

 

Not really, around this time in 2020 not a single poll had Trump winning over Biden. He was trailing by as much as ten points in 2020 (he ended up losing by only four). He was also losing all battleground states in their respective polls barring maybe one. Now it's the opposite. 

 

One more thing. IMO the whole “polls don’t count at all this far out thing” doesn’t work in this instance because nobody is ignorant of the candidates. Yes, things can happen between now and November BUT, both have been presidents for four years and the minds of most people have been made on how they perceive them. If people are indicating that they are willing to vote for Trump… then they are willing to vote for him.

[Brad252 807]

13 hours ago, Windsor said:

Obviously there has been no reset and we appear to be back to square one. The only good thing for Americans is that surely neither will run in 2028? 

If Trump won this year I wouldn't be surprised if he at least tried to abolish the term limit, especially if all those charges and others that might arise threaten him after a second term.

[Windsor 2,233]

42 minutes ago, Brad252 said:

If Trump won this year I wouldn't be surprised if he at least tried to abolish the term limit, especially if all those charges and others that might arise threaten him after a second term.

The split in Congress would make that impossible.

 

Strange as it may be, there are those who vote for Trump know long what he’s like with the safeguard that congress is there to keep him in check.

 

There did, of course, used to be a Supreme Court which could do that too…

[The Old Crem 3,606]

26 minutes ago, Windsor said:

The split in Congress would make that impossible.

 

Strange as it may be, there are those who vote for Trump know long what he’s like with the safeguard that congress is there to keep him in check.

 

There did, of course, used to be a Supreme Court which could do that too…

If trump wins the White House he wins both houses of congress as well.

[Windsor 2,233]

13 minutes ago, The Old Crem said:

If trump wins the White House he wins both houses of congress as well.

He would need to carry two thirds of congress. Thats not going to happen. 

[BonScott 122]

6 hours ago, Brad252 said:

If Trump won this year I wouldn't be surprised if he at least tried to abolish the term limit, especially if all those charges and others that might arise threaten him after a second term.

Pie in the sky, he is entitled to 2 more terms by which time he would be 86, if still alive 

 

The succession plan from what i read while back is Don Jr the GOP candidate for 2028

[Joey Russ 7,228]

17 minutes ago, BonScott said:

Pie in the sky, he is entitled to 2 more terms by which time he would be 86, if still alive 

I don’t think I’ve seen a much more obvious slip of a mask from an “independent bystander” than this single comment right here 

[TQR 14,398]

5 hours ago, Windsor said:

He would need to carry two thirds of congress. Thats not going to happen. 

 

Are you arguing with the blinding takes of TOC and his family (the Crem Crank Clan)?

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[Windsor 2,233]

11 hours ago, TQR said:

 

Are you arguing with the blinding takes of TOC and his family (the Crem Crank Clan)?

I’m so lonely, l’ll take anything…

[Windsor 2,233]

11 hours ago, BonScott said:

Pie in the sky, he is entitled to 2 more terms by which time he would be 86, if still alive 

 

The succession plan from what i read while back is Don Jr the GOP candidate for 2028

Why bother. Just create a monarchy. All the cool folk are doing it. 

[Sod's Law 445]

2 hours ago, Windsor said:

Why bother. Just create a monarchy. All the cool folk are doing it. 

George Washington was apparently offered the title of 'king' at one point, so it's not like it's not been thought about before. They were saying on QI the other night that 'president' was only a cricketing term before it started to be used for US presidents and Washington settled on that title because he was a cricket fan.

 

Of course, it would be golfing language if they were allowed to choose again today.   

[maryportfuncity 10,646]

14 hours ago, BonScott said:

Pie in the sky, he is entitled to 2 more terms by which time he would be 86, if still alive 

 

The succession plan from what i read while back is Don Jr the GOP candidate for 2028

 

 

Yeah, well...that presumes Trump is so successful the country regards a succession plan as the right idea and - secondly - ignores his mafia boss style behaviour. It's in the nature of narcissistic dictators that they imagine their children have inherited their qualities and find out, often the hard way, that they haven't. 

 

Has Donald Jr. achieved anything significant in his own right that didn't result from being a Trump?

[YoungWillz 21,050]

1 hour ago, maryportfuncity said:

 

 

Yeah, well...that presumes Trump is so successful the country regards a succession plan as the right idea and - secondly - ignores his mafia boss style behaviour. It's in the nature of narcissistic dictators that they imagine their children have inherited their qualities and find out, often the hard way, that they haven't. 

 

Has Donald Jr. achieved anything significant in his own right that didn't result from being a Trump?

Jr has single handedly kept the Colombian balance of payments afloat!

 

Not just Senior who does a lot of sniffing.

[Windsor 2,233]

2 hours ago, maryportfuncity said:

 

Has Donald Jr. achieved anything significant in his own right that didn't result from being a Trump?

Surely it’s a family tradition. Trump Snr got everything from his dad too…

[BonScott 122]

21 hours ago, Joey Russ said:

I don’t think I’ve seen a much more obvious slip of a mask from an “independent bystander” than this single comment right here 

Not in the slightest, I would rather neither were standing for president but out of the 2 Trump is far more mentally switched on than Biden, I also believe Biden has quite advanced dementia and would be unlikely to live long enough to see out his 2nd term, whereas Trump must be pretty mentally switched on if he runs a chain of hotels, casinos, golf courses etc as CEO

[maryportfuncity 10,646]

4 hours ago, Windsor said:

Surely it’s a family tradition. Trump Snr got everything from his dad too…

 

 

Trump's dad was a totally insensitive bully who basically terrified his kids, drove one son to alcoholism and left the Donald insecure to the point he doesn't know enough of the truth to tell it. That's a recipe for fucking up his kids and leaving them with the same problem of feeling the need to succeed but lacking the social skills. Those kids may come from a rich background but they're also shackled by the complexities of a business that's now being torn apart by legal investigation and also by the reputation of their own dad. The only way you could really cope in that situation is to have such a strong sense of your own identity you can separate and rise above it. The Donald coped by heading off in one direction (building an empire, building his own ego - albeit on the fragile base of needing constant respect and reassurance and paying for it when he couldn't get it on his own merits). In any family dynamic and in most family businesses there simply isn't room for two adult babies on such a scale. It's worth looking at the rise and fall of the various Murdoch children, outwardly successful but totally dependent on the structure with their dad at the top. I'd be amazed if any younger Trump presented as a credible presidential candidate once the Donald's demise has occured.

[Comped 528]

1 hour ago, maryportfuncity said:

 

 

Trump's dad was a totally insensitive bully who basically terrified his kids, drove one son to alcoholism and left the Donald insecure to the point he doesn't know enough of the truth to tell it. That's a recipe for fucking up his kids and leaving them with the same problem of feeling the need to succeed but lacking the social skills. Those kids may come from a rich background but they're also shackled by the complexities of a business that's now being torn apart by legal investigation and also by the reputation of their own dad. The only way you could really cope in that situation is to have such a strong sense of your own identity you can separate and rise above it. The Donald coped by heading off in one direction (building an empire, building his own ego - albeit on the fragile base of needing constant respect and reassurance and paying for it when he couldn't get it on his own merits). In any family dynamic and in most family businesses there simply isn't room for two adult babies on such a scale. It's worth looking at the rise and fall of the various Murdoch children, outwardly successful but totally dependent on the structure with their dad at the top. I'd be amazed if any younger Trump presented as a credible presidential candidate once the Donald's demise has occured.

Barron seems normal though. Apparently according to people who have seen him play football (he was at DC United's academy for a while), he's pretty good too.

[maryportfuncity 10,646]

1 hour ago, Comped said:

Barron seems normal though. Apparently according to people who have seen him play football (he was at DC United's academy for a while), he's pretty good too.

 

 

Aye, oddly - football, as in a natural talent that gives you a strong identity amongst a bunch of people who aren't your immediate family, might be the best thing that could happen to him. Coincidentally, a book about Donald Trump and golf discusses his penchant for kicking the ball to a better position than the one it landed in. A habit he displayed so often at one golf course that the workers there who saw it nicknamed him Pele. Cover of said book shows just how much fat is swaddling his vital organs. Let's not forget - for all the diversions on this thread - we're dead poolers! 

 

 

 

[BonScott 122]

3 minutes ago, maryportfuncity said:

 

 

Aye, oddly - football, as in a natural talent that gives you a strong identity amongst a bunch of people who aren't your immediate family, might be the best thing that could happen to him. Coincidentally, a book about Donald Trump and golf discusses his penchant for kicking the ball to a better position than the one it landed in. A habit he displayed so often at one golf course that the workers there who saw it nicknamed him Pele. Cover of said book shows just how much fat is swaddling his vital organs. Let's not forget - for all the diversions on this thread - we're dead poolers! 

 

 

 

Trump is likely good for another 10 years of life, a bit overweight but in his life has never had a cigarette, never had an alcoholic drink, drinks diet coke not full fat, Biden I don’t see living more than another 2 or 3 years, his dementia is being covered up by his handlers

 

Last thing the world needs is a POTUS dying in office, would have massive effect on our economy too, as saying goes “when America sneezes rest of world catches a cold” 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, BonScott said:

Trump is likely good for another 10 years of life, a bit overweight but in his life has never had a cigarette, never had an alcoholic drink, drinks diet coke not full fat, Biden I don’t see living more than another 2 or 3 years, his dementia is being covered up by his handlers

 

Last thing the world needs is a POTUS dying in office, would have massive effect on our economy too, as saying goes “when America sneezes rest of world catches a cold” 

 

 

 

Not sure Biden's that far gone.I think one thing making the difference seem more than it is is that Biden's concerned with facts and trying to recall them, work through the remains of his speech impediment and get over the pressure of fielding press questions makes him seem worse than he is. That said, he's showing signs of age, the job's draining him and I don't think he's good for half a term, let alone the whole lot. Trump's much greater fluency owes a lot to the way he's never been that concerned with facts when he speaks. When he slips up it's less a sign of dementia and more blatantly that he never knew the key facts in the first place. Thankfully a few others were aware of the folly of trying to "introduce bleach to the body" to treat Covid. Trump's love of junk food offsets some of the other clean living choices. I don't think he has ten years left. 

 

[Comped 528]

17 minutes ago, maryportfuncity said:

 

 

Aye, oddly - football, as in a natural talent that gives you a strong identity amongst a bunch of people who aren't your immediate family, might be the best thing that could happen to him.

Hoping if Trump wins that some team in DC, college or not, may give Baron a chance. I kind of want to see what happens if I sign him in Football Manager...

[BonScott 122]

8 minutes ago, maryportfuncity said:

 

Not sure Biden's that far gone.I think one thing making the difference seem more than it is is that Biden's concerned with facts and trying to recall them, work through the remains of his speech impediment and get over the pressure of fielding press questions makes him seem worse than he is. That said, he's showing signs of age, the job's draining him and I don't think he's good for half a term, let alone the whole lot. Trump's much greater fluency owes a lot to the way he's never been that concerned with facts when he speaks. When he slips up it's less a sign of dementia and more blatantly that he never knew the key facts in the first place. Thankfully a few others were aware of the folly of trying to "introduce bleach to the body" to treat Covid. Trump's love of junk food offsets some of the other clean living choices. I don't think he has ten years left. 

 

Even before the election Biden was very confused and doddery, getting family members names mixed up, even at one rally he invited someone up on stage and called their name out several times and they had died in a car crash months previously so i don’t think it is just pressures of the job, I am not a doctor but having seen my late grandmother decline with dementia Biden showing all the signs, POTUS or not he is a certainty for my 2026 - 2027 list 

[maryportfuncity 10,646]

13 minutes ago, BonScott said:

Even before the election Biden was very confused and doddery, getting family members names mixed up, even at one rally he invited someone up on stage and called their name out several times and they had died in a car crash months previously so i don’t think it is just pressures of the job, I am not a doctor but having seen my late grandmother decline with dementia Biden showing all the signs, POTUS or not he is a certainty for my 2026 - 2027 list 

 

 

Aye, I'll bow to your greater knowledge. I'm assuming he's checked out regularly by doctors whether he wants to be, or not. If he's that far gone, surely,  someone in his own party or family just steps in and stops the whole show by outing him. Fuck knows,  the consequences of not doing so are obvious. If the Democrats field a candidate they know can't cut it and let him loose in a live debate that's suicidal and they don't want to gift Trump an election victory. In extreme circumstances they'd commit regicide one way or the other, right? The only president I know who made a point of regularly swerving medical advice is Trump. 

[BonScott 122]

2 minutes ago, maryportfuncity said:

 

 

Aye, I'll bow to your greater knowledge. I'm assuming he's checked out regularly by doctors whether he wants to be, or not. The only president I know who made a point of regularly swerving medical advice is Trump. 

Am not here as a Trump cheerleader, with all the legal issues etc hanging over him he should not be standing at all, nor should Biden on health grounds, neither should be on the ballot, but I would say Trump has a 70% chance of being alive in 2029 whereas Biden I would say 30% chance