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Eurovision performers are up - Boom Bang A Bang I will allow challenges on veracity until 8th October (because I will be away for a week between now and then) Once we get to that date the teams are fixed Now wait

That only makes it worse!

I've done a great job of finding unique picks (1,4,3,3,3) thereby ensuring they go on to live long and happy lives.

Based on my current shadow list, I also didn't know 22 people when I came across this forum in 2013 (minus 6ix9ine, as he was not yet public). But over time, I also took the obvious candidates into my teams so that I could get points. And that is the goal: to get more points than the biggest competitor, maybe better than the committee, better than your own team from last year. Also, I have never heard of Tom Smith or Genesis P-Orridge before, but they were much discussed people here in the forum from the art/music or sports area, it was obvious to include them. With Bill Gates Sr., that wasn't so clear, which is why he's considered one of the most controversial DL picks this year. Genesis P-Orridge certainly too, but as I said: They were a major topic and discussed. For most people, Gates Senior was simply the "father of", which for many users is not enough to get on the list. And while the DL had a hit with one of the most controversial picks of 2020 (Gates), my shadow list also had a hit with Pat Smullen (whom, of course, I didn't know before) - an Irish jockey with incurable cancer. He could have been a very good and fitting pick on the DL ... Regarding the remaining candidates on my shadow list: I think that everyone is a well-known personality in their own right, famous or known through music, drama, politics, media, etc. Certainly it always depends on the personal point of view, e.g. Jackie Stallone (also a mother of ...) is a celebrity for me, Gates Senior is not like that. And about the Germans: More of them could be represented at the DL! Three French in 2020 but not a single German? - A scandal!! But no matter: With their tactics, the DL has 13 hits so far, with my tactics I have 17 hits. All is well.

The way they edited the picture to remove the reflection of the car window and increase the brightness wouldn't do me any favors either. Original picture and a few more here. Looks all right for now. Stil able to travel and get out of a car on his own.

EUROVISION SONG CONTEST 1. Brian Alford ol 2. Mathe Altery ro, oc, gn 3. Isabelle Aubret gb, cw, di 4. Hughes Aufrey oc, gn 5. Jay Aston yw 6. Franco Battiato af 7. Conchita Bautista cc, dp 8. Brian Bennett gb 9. Solange Berry mc, gr, di 10. Odd Borre ti 11. Jacquleine Boyer bg, cw 12. Patricia Bredin dp, ti 13. Inge Bruck yw, dp 14. Drio Campeotto mc 15. Gigliola Cinquetti bg, gb 16. Toto Cotugno gb 17. Nicola Di Bari to 18. Romuald Figuier yb 19. Ferry Graf di 20. Joe Grech gr 21. Laila Halme cc 22. Francoise Hardy cc, sp 23. Wyn Hoop cc 24. Engelbert Humpadink bg, yw 25. Brian Kennedy sp 26. Yitzhak Klepter ba 27. Martin Lee gb 28. Johnny Logan cw 29. Siw Malmkvist dp, ti, yb 30. Massiel yb 31. Olivia Newton-John yw, ro, ol, oc, sp, ba, gn, to, af 32. Mike Nolan bg 33. Nora Nova mc, gr, oc, gn, af 34. Esther Ofarim ti 35. Simone de Oliveira ro, sp, yb, af 36. Franck Olivier ba 37. Niels Olsen yw, ol, mc, gr, oc, sp, ba, to 38. Fatima Padinha ro 39. Jean Philippe cc, di, gn 40. Freddy Quinn to 41. Jacques Raymond ti 42. Cliff Richard bg, ol 43. Alexander Rybak ol 44. Severine cw 45. Sandie Shaw cw 46. Kico Slabinac gr, ba 47. Salvador Sobral ro 48. Roy Taylor af 49. Tonina Torrielli di 50. Birthe Wilkie mc, to 51. David Alexandre Winter dp 52. Iva Zanicchijaiciek yb

Yay, I have at least one unique in every category. Not going to matter.

So sorry to hear that. Take your time, do what you need to do but don't torture yourself over paths not taken. Something like this is always hard.

Tony Tanner, British actor, choreographer and theatre director dead at 87. Multiple Tony Award nominations.

Well, a 3rd unique.... so at least, there's a chance!

Roy Charles Hammond, a soul singer, songwriter and record executive, professionally known as Roy C, has died. He was 81. https://www.wjbf.com/csra-news/soul-singer-roy-charles-hammond-aka-roy-c-has-died/

I was just looking for initial N, thinking Nicholas might be his middle name.

Finally, confirmation. Only took a month and a half. Still waiting on confirmation for actresses Nancy Saunders and Kay Hawtrey.

I did notice that and thought that might be the reason. I'm criticising these half arsed journalists, not you.

Added c. 1952 for now. Sadly the Canadian records are very limited on Ancestry. If anyone is reading this and knows where I can access them all for free, please speak up. I will look further into We The People Band tomorrow, cheers again.

Given its overuse, I decided to put the direct quotes around it, They are not my words but those of at least one of the articles reporting on his death.

Agreed. A lot of how COVID was dealt with has to do with predictions. Most we can do now is speculate, hence why I wanted a separate thread.

Max Webster. Interesting article here: So in May 1967, David Myles was already 15, older than Kim Mitchell, so born probably 1951/52 (more likely the latter). Might be of some help.

Merton Parkas. Date of Birth here for Simon Smith: https://www.oldies.com/artist-biography/Mood-Six.html Various sources confirm Neil Hurrell is dead: http://bmodrevivalforums.runboard.com/t11710 and this interview with Mick Talbot from 2009 says he died "a few years ago" https://sexygroovyrhythms.wordpress.com/tag/mods/ so probably some time in the 2000s.

So, Medicine Head Both of those two still alive and John Fiddler maintains the name and records/performs under it However, the final hit single is the band as a five piece incl. the now deceased George Ford (bass) and Roger Saunders (lead guitar) both of whom I'm fairly sure were mentioned hereabouts on death. Ford for sure because he was also in Cockney Rebel. Drummer in the five piece hit making Medicine Head was Rob Townsend, newly freed at the time by the disbanded Family and eventually to join the Blues Band which - I'm fairly sure - is where he still thumps the tubs

I guess he feels A LOT better since his recent hospitalization...

Russian nationalist and anti-LGBT campaigner Maxim Martsinkevich dead of suicide at 36: https://meduza.io/en/news/2020/09/16/russian-nationalist-tesak-found-dead-in-prison-cell-after-apparent-suicide His anti-LGBT organisation was called "Occupy Pedophilia" and his nationalist/neo-Nazi organisation was named "Format18" (18 stands for A. H.).

I for one enjoy your forays on here and look forward to having you back when you are up to it. Thoughts with you and yours....

https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/2020/sep/08/forrest-fenn-hidden-treasure-rocky-mountains-dies?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium=&utm_source=Twitter&__twitter_impression=true Forrest Fenn obit. If it’s acceptable, I believe that’s worth 6 points (3 for alliteration, 3 for a solo).

Newbs giving me so many reasons to roll out Alan recently.