From Cleric To Relic

[alt obits guy 3,371]

50 minutes ago, drol said:

Bishop Howard Hesseman?

He may have been a deejay and a teacher, but he was no Bishop. (The point being I was looking through tweets, saw Howard Hesseman, then saw his death was already mentioned in the Deathlist, so I moved on to another name...this Bishop who apparently isn't a Bishop, and posted his obit instead.)

[arghton 6,697]

On 17/11/2021 at 17:35, arghton said:

Assembly of Experts member since 1983, longtime parliament member in Iran. First Ayatollah/Maraji to die since September, but there are quite many above 90:

 

1. Grand Ayatollah Lotfollah Safi Golpaygani (20 Feb 1919-31 Jan 2022) Secretary of the Guardian Council 1980-1985, once issued a fatwa calling for the death of a rapper.

2. Grand Ayatollah Sheikh Hossein Wahid Khorasani (1 Jan 1921-) "Most learned Shia authority alive" and critic of Khamenei.

3. Shamsodin Mujtahidi Najafi (17 April 1923-)

4. Grand Ayatollah Hossein Noori-Hamedani (1925-) Hardliner and a total piece of shit.

5. Grand Ayatollah Sayyid Muhammad-Sadiq Husayni Rohani (16 July 1926-)

6. Ayatollah Ahmad Jannati (23 Feb 1927-) Conservative, one of the top politicians in Iran. Chairman of the Assembly of Experts and Secretary of the Guardian Council.

7. Grand Ayatollah Naser Makarem Shirazi (25 Feb 1927-) Holocaust denialist, member of the assembly of experts in 1979

8. Grand Ayatollah Sayyid Mousa Shubairi Zanjani (2 March 1928-)

9. Grand Ayatollah Abbas Mahfouzi (1928-)

10. Grand Ayatollah Mohammad Rahmati Sirjani (1928-)

11. Ayatollah Seyed Ali Akbar Ghoreishi (1928-) Assembly of Experts member since 1983

12. Grand Ayatollah Jafar Sobhani (8 April 1929-) Founder of Imam Sadiq Institute in Qom

13. Grand Ayatollah Sayyid Ali al-Husayni al-Sistani (4 Aug 1930-) Called the "Leading spiritual leader of Iraqi Shia muslims" and the "electronic Grand Ayatollah", one of the rare liberal Ayatollahs.

14. Grand Ayatollah Muhammad Is'haq al-Fayadh (1930-) Also a liberal Ayatollah.

15. Muhammad Taqi Majlesi Isfahani (1930-)

16. Mohammed Emami-Kashani (3 Oct 1931-) Assembly of Experts member since 1983

17. Ayatollah Mohammad Ali Movahedi-Kermani (1931-) Tehran's Ephemeral Friday Prayer Imam since 2012 succeeding Ali Khamenei.

Updated for the death of Golpy. Khorasani is now the oldest living Marja/Ayatollah.

 

Khorasani, "most learned Shia authority" is pretty frail but probably invincible. Shamsodin is a random guy with no English wikipedia page. Same for Taqi Isfahani.

Noori-Hamedani is a "dangerous" old asshole, recently condoled the death of Golpaygani calling him the "Supreme being of God"

Jannati is getting frailer and left one of his positions a couple of months ago.

Abbas Mahfouzi had a serious mystery illness (not mentioned anywhere) and surgery in 2016 but recovered.

Mohammad Rahmati Sirjani had a serious mystery illness a year ago and spent time in coma.

Is'haq al-Fayadh was hospitalised with covid a year ago but has recovered.

Movahedi-Kermani was already wheelchairbound three years ago. 

[drol 11,923]

Nasser Shirazi has been in & out of hospital for the past seven years, but these things are incredibly hard to kill.

[arghton 6,697]

32 minutes ago, arghton said:

Abbas Mahfouzi had a serious mystery illness (not mentioned anywhere) and surgery in 2016 but recovered.

Mohammad Rahmati Sirjani had a serious mystery illness a year ago and spent time in coma.

Here Mahfouzi in 2016 and Sirjani in February 2021. Not sure if Sirjani has been seen since

[Sir Creep 7,070]

A former priest who was named in the state’s grand jury report on clergy sexual abuse and charged with recording a young boy in a Target bathroom has died. The Diocese of Pittsburgh said they were informed of 77-year-old Paul Spisak’s death Monday. The medical examiner said he died Sunday but did not list a cause of death.

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[gcreptile 10,964]

On 27/05/2016 at 18:00, gcreptile said:

Remi De Roo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remi_De_Roo

Remi De Roo, last living English-speaking bishop at the Second Vatican Council dead at 97:

https://bccatholic.ca/news/canada/bishop-remi-de-roo-dies-at-97

[arrowsmith 445]

1 hour ago, gcreptile said:

Remi De Roo, last living English-speaking bishop at the Second Vatican Council dead at 97:

https://bccatholic.ca/news/canada/bishop-remi-de-roo-dies-at-97

I believe he was also the last to attend all of the sessions. 
 

Double checked - definitely the last council father present at all four sessions. His death leaves eight remaining and only one living bishop appointed by Pope John XXIII. 

[arghton 6,697]

On 20/01/2022 at 11:53, arghton said:

There have been two notable buddhist monk deaths during the last days but Thích Nhất Hạnh (now dead) and influential Zen Buddhist monk Thích Thanh Từ are still somehow alive.

How long will these two (especially Thich Nhat Hanh who has been dying for years) keep circling the drain? Forever? Both wheelchair-bound, almost unable to move at all and atleast Nhat Hanh can't even talk (not sure if Tu can).

Recent picture of Thích Thanh Từ (Feb 1, source) looks okay, interesting wheelchair choice.

[Salmon Mousse 473]

21 minutes ago, arghton said:

Recent picture of Thích Thanh Từ (Feb 1, source) looks okay, interesting wheelchair choice.

 

What can you say, the man loves his off-roading

[Youth in Asia 1,086]

The head of ISIS just blew himself up. Presumably he is some kind of cleric to get to that position.

[arghton 6,697]

https://www.baomoi.com/ngai-tam-tang-thu-12-bhaddanta-abhijatabhivamsa-myanmar-vien-tich-o-tuoi-54/c/41708849.epi

Burmese buddhist monk Abhijatabhivamsa dead at 53 from leukemia. 

[Ulitzer95 12,577]

On 01/02/2022 at 19:07, arghton said:

Updated for the death of Golpy. Khorasani is now the oldest living Marja/Ayatollah.

 

Khorasani, "most learned Shia authority" is pretty frail but probably invincible. Shamsodin is a random guy with no English wikipedia page. Same for Taqi Isfahani.

Noori-Hamedani is a "dangerous" old asshole, recently condoled the death of Golpaygani calling him the "Supreme being of God"

Jannati is getting frailer and left one of his positions a couple of months ago.

Abbas Mahfouzi had a serious mystery illness (not mentioned anywhere) and surgery in 2016 but recovered.

Mohammad Rahmati Sirjani had a serious mystery illness a year ago and spent time in coma.

Is'haq al-Fayadh was hospitalised with covid a year ago but has recovered.

Movahedi-Kermani was already wheelchairbound three years ago. 

Khorasani dead on English Wiki. No news results in English.
 

I’m out and about at the moment, can someone 

else do some searching under his Arabic, Persian names etc? 
 

EDIT: IP address who added it looks dodgy. Possible hoax.

[drol 11,923]

6 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:

Khorasani dead on English Wiki. No news results in English.
 

I’m out and about at the moment, can someone 

else do some searching under his Arabic, Persian names etc? 
 

EDIT: IP address who added it looks dodgy. Possible hoax.

IP is from UK, so most likely came out of this site.

 

Khorasani (sadly) alive and well. Also appeared in public a week ago.

[drol 11,923]

On 25/05/2021 at 20:17, arghton said:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/294260820668664/permalink/3987905387970837/

Gregory Peter XX Ghabroyan, Catholicos-Patriach Cicilia since 2015 dead at 86.

 

Chrysostomos II of Cyprus (b. 1941) Archbishop of Nova Justiana and All Cyprus.

 

Chrysostomos of Cyprus hospitalised after breaking his arm.

[arghton 6,697]

I'm amazed this guy is still breathing:

On 25/05/2021 at 21:17, arghton said:

Ilia II of Georgia (b. 1933) Catholicos-Patriarch of All Georgia.

He's been the patriarch since 1977(!!!), there's been battle about who gets to succeed him for years and he's been ultrafrail for ages, suffering from a heart disease for more than 12 years and parkinson's for atleast 8 years. Someone tried to kill him with a strong poison 5 years ago but he survived it, came out of ICU slightly frailer. Hospitalisations in 2008 (heart treatment in Germany), 2009 (fever), 2014 (spine and heart treatment in Germany, twice), 2017 (poisoning, gallbladder surgery) and 2019 (weakness, unable to do a speech)

[alt obits guy 3,371]

Robert J. Rose, Bishop Emeritus of the Diocese of Grand Rapids, has died. He was 92. Rose served churches in Michigan for more than 65 years.

 

https://www.wzzm13.com/article/news/local/bishop-robert-rose-dead-at-92/69-a5c1d20b-3081-4698-bde8-b1ef53425eff

[CastAway 488]

On 25/05/2021 at 23:47, arghton said:

Fethullah Gulen (b. 1941) Leader of the Gulen movement.

 

Reports on Twitter that Gulen is dead: https://newsastral.com/fethullah-gulen-oldu-is-dead-fetullah-gulen-the-leader-of-feto-was-claimed-to-have-died/

[Sir Creep 7,070]

2 hours ago, CastAway said:

 

Reports on Twitter that Gulen is dead: https://newsastral.com/fethullah-gulen-oldu-is-dead-fetullah-gulen-the-leader-of-feto-was-claimed-to-have-died/

Safari canna open your link.

[CastAway 488]

10 minutes ago, Sir Creep said:

Safari canna open your link.

working fine on Chrome for me, though crying about AdBlocker

[Ulitzer95 12,577]

13 minutes ago, Sir Creep said:

Safari canna open your link.

It works fine on my Safari, however it's not a news link.

It's an auto generated "news" article/bot that's scraped info from Twitter, so your browser has likely identified it's spam and blacklisted it.

[Sir Creep 7,070]

7 minutes ago, CastAway said:

working fine on Chrome for me, though crying about AdBlocker

All good, I assume it works elsewhere.  iPhone to blame at my end 

[drol 11,923]

8 hours ago, CastAway said:

 

Reports on Twitter that Gulen is dead: https://newsastral.com/fethullah-gulen-oldu-is-dead-fetullah-gulen-the-leader-of-feto-was-claimed-to-have-died/

It's been denied, of course.

[DevonDeathTrip 2,358]

Russian Orthodox Patriarch Kirill sells his soul to the devil and backs Putin's invasion of Ukraine. 

 

Meanwhile, in Kiev, the 93 year old Patriarch Filaret of the breakaway Ukrainian Orthodox church soldiers on.  He survived covid last year, but his secessionist tendencies have annoyed Putin, so a sudden demolition of the cathedral while he is inside can't be ruled out.

[alt obits guy 3,371]

James Moriarty, the auxiliary Bishop of Dublin from 1991 to 2002 and the Bishop of Kildare and Leighlin from 2002 to 2010, has died. He was 85. His death has been recorded at the Catholic Hierarchy website. (From this, we can deduce his passing is certain. It's elementary, my dear Watson.)

 

https://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/bishop/bmoriarty.html

[Sir Creep 7,070]

Jesuit Father Drew Christiansen, a professor at Georgetown University and formerly head of the U.S. bishops’ Office of International Justice and Peace, died early April 6 in Washington. He was 77.

Father Christiansen had been battling recent health issues, but no cause of death was released. The year 2022 marked his 50th year as a priest, and his 60th year as a Jesuit.

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