RIP Wee Jum 1,559 Posted March 23, 2012 Wrestlemania weekend seems like a good time as any for one to go. I'm gonna nominate Marty Jannetty. We want a bigger name than that. How about Vince McMahon ? That would shake up the wrestling world 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR976evil 906 Posted March 23, 2012 Wrestlemania weekend seems like a good time as any for one to go. I'm gonna nominate Marty Jannetty. We want a bigger name than that. How about Vince McMahon ? That would shake up the wrestling world It does need shaking up, Vince has too much power and has let it all go to his head. And he's more pre-occupied with money-losing follies like WWE Studios than actually investing in the long-term future of the product that actually made him rich in the first place. He has become the Howard Hughes of wrestling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,538 Posted March 23, 2012 Bruce Prichard has had two heart attacks but is "recovering" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
time 8,618 Posted March 23, 2012 Wrestlemania weekend seems like a good time as any for one to go. I'm gonna nominate Marty Jannetty. We want a bigger name than that. How about Vince McMahon ? That would shake up the wrestling world It does need shaking up, Vince has too much power and has let it all go to his head. And he's more pre-occupied with money-losing follies like WWE Studios than actually investing in the long-term future of the product that actually made him rich in the first place. He has become the Howard Hughes of wrestling But does anyone really give a shit? Its not like anyone believes that the matches are real is it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_engineer 1,415 Posted March 23, 2012 Wrestlemania weekend seems like a good time as any for one to go. I'm gonna nominate Marty Jannetty. We want a bigger name than that. How about Vince McMahon ? That would shake up the wrestling world It does need shaking up, Vince has too much power and has let it all go to his head. And he's more pre-occupied with money-losing follies like WWE Studios than actually investing in the long-term future of the product that actually made him rich in the first place. He has become the Howard Hughes of wrestling Wrestling used to be a great show to watch during late 90s early 2000's now though is just very boring and well i guess 'sterile' is the best word for it. Weird because the WWE has more talented wrestlers than they did then back then and more money to spend on the show. There is hope though daniel bryan , wade barrett , sheamus and cm punk are all young talented entertainers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,538 Posted March 24, 2012 But does anyone really give a shit? Its not like anyone believes that the matches are real is it? You know that movie Armageddon? With the Aerosmith song and Liv Tyler and Steve Buscemi phoning his appearance in? Friend of a friend works in the movie industry on... like, I dunno what you call it. Special effects I suppose. Anyway, we were at some dreary drinks party once and he's had a few and he lets slip... Bruce Willis didn't actually fly into space and blow an asteroid up for that movie. It's all made up, entirely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
time 8,618 Posted March 24, 2012 But does anyone really give a shit? Its not like anyone believes that the matches are real is it? You know that movie Armageddon? With the Aerosmith song and Liv Tyler and Steve Buscemi phoning his appearance in? Friend of a friend works in the movie industry on... like, I dunno what you call it. Special effects I suppose. Anyway, we were at some dreary drinks party once and he's had a few and he lets slip... Bruce Willis didn't actually fly into space and blow an asteroid up for that movie. It's all made up, entirely. Really? You'll be telling me next John Hurt didn't really have an alien rip through his stomach and Arnie and Danny aren't even related, let alone twins. My point being that no-one ever tried to claim that Hollywood blockbusters are anything but fiction - unlike WWF/WWE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,479 Posted March 24, 2012 The WWF/E shed all pretence of it being real before I was even born. Its choreographed theatre "sport", and in that, quite fascinating. I've no interest in real bloodsports. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR976evil 906 Posted March 24, 2012 But does anyone really give a shit? Its not like anyone believes that the matches are real is it? You know that movie Armageddon? With the Aerosmith song and Liv Tyler and Steve Buscemi phoning his appearance in? Friend of a friend works in the movie industry on... like, I dunno what you call it. Special effects I suppose. Anyway, we were at some dreary drinks party once and he's had a few and he lets slip... Bruce Willis didn't actually fly into space and blow an asteroid up for that movie. It's all made up, entirely. Really? You'll be telling me next John Hurt didn't really have an alien rip through his stomach and Arnie and Danny aren't even related, let alone twins. My point being that no-one ever tried to claim that Hollywood blockbusters are anything but fiction - unlike WWF/WWE. No one tries to pass it off as real these days, not since the 1970s. Vince McMahon's concept of "Sports Entertainment" put paid to that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,538 Posted March 24, 2012 Eh, even in the territorial days the amount of people who really thought it was "real" was limited to seven-year-olds and the mentally retarded. Who, admittedly, do make up a large percentage of wrestling's fanbase. Trying to work my way through the 2000 WCW catalogue at the moment. Man, that's a thankless task. The Harris Brothers really were uniquely shit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR976evil 906 Posted March 24, 2012 Eh, even in the territorial days the amount of people who really thought it was "real" was limited to seven-year-olds and the mentally retarded. Who, admittedly, do make up a large percentage of wrestling's fanbase. Trying to work my way through the 2000 WCW catalogue at the moment. Man, that's a thankless task. The Harris Brothers really were uniquely shit. Yeah, but in those days the notion of 'protecting the business at all costs' or 'kayfabe' was still enforced rigorously, not the case anymore? Re:- your second paragraph, are you a wrestling journalist, or merely a sadomasochist? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,479 Posted March 24, 2012 Eh, even in the territorial days the amount of people who really thought it was "real" was limited to seven-year-olds and the mentally retarded. Who, admittedly, do make up a large percentage of wrestling's fanbase. Trying to work my way through the 2000 WCW catalogue at the moment. Man, that's a thankless task. The Harris Brothers really were uniquely shit. Yeah, but in those days the notion of 'protecting the business at all costs' or 'kayfabe' was still enforced rigorously, not the case anymore? Re:- your second paragraph, are you a wrestling journalist, or merely a sadomasochist? You say that as if they were mutually exclusive! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR976evil 906 Posted March 24, 2012 Eh, even in the territorial days the amount of people who really thought it was "real" was limited to seven-year-olds and the mentally retarded. Who, admittedly, do make up a large percentage of wrestling's fanbase. Trying to work my way through the 2000 WCW catalogue at the moment. Man, that's a thankless task. The Harris Brothers really were uniquely shit. Yeah, but in those days the notion of 'protecting the business at all costs' or 'kayfabe' was still enforced rigorously, not the case anymore? Re:- your second paragraph, are you a wrestling journalist, or merely a sadomasochist? You say that as if they were mutually exclusive! Well with the general state of pro-wrestling these days... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
time 8,618 Posted March 25, 2012 But does anyone really give a shit? Its not like anyone believes that the matches are real is it? You know that movie Armageddon? With the Aerosmith song and Liv Tyler and Steve Buscemi phoning his appearance in? Friend of a friend works in the movie industry on... like, I dunno what you call it. Special effects I suppose. Anyway, we were at some dreary drinks party once and he's had a few and he lets slip... Bruce Willis didn't actually fly into space and blow an asteroid up for that movie. It's all made up, entirely. Really? You'll be telling me next John Hurt didn't really have an alien rip through his stomach and Arnie and Danny aren't even related, let alone twins. My point being that no-one ever tried to claim that Hollywood blockbusters are anything but fiction - unlike WWF/WWE. No one tries to pass it off as real these days, not since the 1970s. Vince McMahon's concept of "Sports Entertainment" put paid to that I would suggest that McMahon was trying to pass it off as sport into the 90's. If there is evidence (even anecdotal) to the contrary I'd like to see it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR976evil 906 Posted March 25, 2012 But does anyone really give a shit? Its not like anyone believes that the matches are real is it? You know that movie Armageddon? With the Aerosmith song and Liv Tyler and Steve Buscemi phoning his appearance in? Friend of a friend works in the movie industry on... like, I dunno what you call it. Special effects I suppose. Anyway, we were at some dreary drinks party once and he's had a few and he lets slip... Bruce Willis didn't actually fly into space and blow an asteroid up for that movie. It's all made up, entirely. Really? You'll be telling me next John Hurt didn't really have an alien rip through his stomach and Arnie and Danny aren't even related, let alone twins. My point being that no-one ever tried to claim that Hollywood blockbusters are anything but fiction - unlike WWF/WWE. No one tries to pass it off as real these days, not since the 1970s. Vince McMahon's concept of "Sports Entertainment" put paid to that I would suggest that McMahon was trying to pass it off as sport into the 90's. If there is evidence (even anecdotal) to the contrary I'd like to see it. Actually he has for many years now attempted to present his product as distinctive from sport, and wrestling for that matter, in order both to console his inferiority complex over being thought of as a lowly wrestling promoter, and to gain exemption from various taxations and regulations applicable to pro-sport organisations in the US Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harrymcnallysblueandwhitearmy 1,689 Posted March 26, 2012 But does anyone really give a shit? Its not like anyone believes that the matches are real is it? You know that movie Armageddon? With the Aerosmith song and Liv Tyler and Steve Buscemi phoning his appearance in? Friend of a friend works in the movie industry on... like, I dunno what you call it. Special effects I suppose. Anyway, we were at some dreary drinks party once and he's had a few and he lets slip... Bruce Willis didn't actually fly into space and blow an asteroid up for that movie. It's all made up, entirely. Really? You'll be telling me next John Hurt didn't really have an alien rip through his stomach and Arnie and Danny aren't even related, let alone twins. My point being that no-one ever tried to claim that Hollywood blockbusters are anything but fiction - unlike WWF/WWE. No one tries to pass it off as real these days, not since the 1970s. Vince McMahon's concept of "Sports Entertainment" put paid to that I would suggest that McMahon was trying to pass it off as sport into the 90's. If there is evidence (even anecdotal) to the contrary I'd like to see it. Actually he has for many years now attempted to present his product as distinctive from sport, and wrestling for that matter, in order both to console his inferiority complex over being thought of as a lowly wrestling promoter, and to gain exemption from various taxations and regulations applicable to pro-sport organisations in the US Well, Sky certainly seem to consider it a sport, clogging up the 403 schedule for half the day and denying airtime for real, competitive mano-a-mano stuff like bar billiards and shove ha'penny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
angryGreatness 96 Posted April 3, 2012 Joe Scarpa, better known as Chief Jay Strongbow, who wrestled in the 1970's has died aged 83. Two theme teams on the DDP picked him this year. Obit incoming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Bearer 6,102 Posted April 3, 2012 Joe Scarpa, better known as Chief Jay Strongbow, who wrestled in the 1970's has died aged 83. Two theme teams on the DDP picked him this year. Obit incoming. Will this do as an obit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,538 Posted April 3, 2012 Joe Scarpa, better known as Chief Jay Strongbow, who wrestled in the 1970's has died aged 83. Two theme teams on the DDP picked him this year. Obit incoming. He was my #21 pick. I don't get anything for that, huh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lewd_Squirrel 331 Posted April 3, 2012 damn, I could've sworn he was on my list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_engineer 1,415 Posted April 11, 2012 The bad guy Scott Hall is living up to his name by beating and choking his girlfriend out . He is going on my deathlist next year if he makes it until then pretty sure he is on his last legs. http://www.tmz.com/2...o4#.T4TWi3nujSY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom 2,534 Posted April 11, 2012 The bad guy Scott Hall is living up to his name by beating and choking his girlfriend out . He is going on my deathlist next year if he makes it until then pretty sure he is on his last legs. http://www.tmz.com/2...o4#.T4TWi3nujSY I knew there was a reason why I picked him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lewd_Squirrel 331 Posted April 25, 2012 former WCW & briefly a WWF/E wrestler Marcus "Buff" Bagwell got into a fender bender, & is in the hospitol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boleyn 1 Posted May 3, 2012 It's been kind of slow for wrestling deaths this year . Seems like were overdue for a big name to kick the bucket some time soon. I'm hedging my bets on the mannish Chyna. Not sure why but she's as messed up as anybody and a quick read of her bio shows a lot of abuse to her body throughout her life. Only takes another incident lie this http://www.blippitt.com/joanie-laurer-chyna-hospitalized-following-benadryl-overdose/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RIP Wee Jum 1,559 Posted May 3, 2012 I reckon the next wrestling death will be one of the ones we have expected for a while. e.g. Scott Hall, Jake The Snake, Bobby Heenan, Paul Orndorff etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites