Paul Bearer 6,101 Posted November 10, 2015 i'm no German expert but doesn't this headline say he's dead? http://www.abendblatt.de/hamburg/article206555763/Sorge-um-Helmut-Schmidt-Er-wird-nicht-leiden.html No, it doesn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rotten Ali 600 Posted November 10, 2015 Late in the day now for my entry. But I'll take the next available. 23rd November. However, I'm sure he will be gone within the week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mad Hatter 1,092 Posted November 10, 2015 I wish I could translate all these news sites but I can't how screwed is he Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mad Hatter 1,092 Posted November 10, 2015 Never mind I found a good site for those unable to translate. http://www.thelocal.de/20151110/former-chancellors-life-hangs-in-balance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,967 Posted November 10, 2015 Not responsive anymore: http://www.bild.de/politik/inland/helmut-schmidt/wie-schlecht-geht-es-dem-altkanzler-43328282.bild.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter(link in german) This, however, is one of Germany's less reliable papers. The biggest tabloid. Edit: His personal doctor apparently said that Schmidt has high fever (39* Celsius) because of an "unclear infection" and his body has "hardly any resistance" left. Ahem, and there are also a couple of "onlookers and reporters" around the house. That raises a couple of questions though. Did anyone permit his personal physician to publicly speculate when he'd die? Isn't there any legislation in Germany preventing doctors from... divulging medical secrets? Or at least the Hippocratic Oath? Now I have an answer to that, because yes, doctors are meant to keep the secrets of their patients, but according to this article: https://de.nachrichten.yahoo.com/helmut-schmidt-nur-sehr-selten-060948711.html(german link) Schmidt's daughter has given his personal doctor the permission to talk. He says that in the past two days, Schmidt has only rarely been conscious. Schmidt "should be moved to a hospital" but it was his wish to stay at home. Also, asked whether Schmidt would ever recover again, he says "No, sadly I don't believe that." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magere Hein 1,400 Posted November 10, 2015 Isn't there any legislation in Germany preventing doctors from... divulging medical secrets? Or at least the Hippocratic Oath?Now I have an answer to that, because yes, doctors are meant to keep the secrets of their patients, but according to this article: https://de.nachrichten.yahoo.com/helmut-schmidt-nur-sehr-selten-060948711.html(german link) Schmidt's daughter has given his personal doctor the permission to talk. He says that in the past two days, Schmidt has only rarely been conscious. Schmidt "should be moved to a hospital" but it was his wish to stay at home. Also, asked whether Schmidt would ever recover again, he says "No, sadly I don't believe that." Thanks for the update. Things look grim indeed. I can't read the interview in the Hamburger Abendblatt, but in the assumption that de.nachrichten.yahoo.com didn't make it all up, this sounds very much like Schmidt's Schluss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,967 Posted November 10, 2015 Isn't there any legislation in Germany preventing doctors from... divulging medical secrets? Or at least the Hippocratic Oath?Now I have an answer to that, because yes, doctors are meant to keep the secrets of their patients, but according to this article: https://de.nachrichten.yahoo.com/helmut-schmidt-nur-sehr-selten-060948711.html(german link) Schmidt's daughter has given his personal doctor the permission to talk. He says that in the past two days, Schmidt has only rarely been conscious. Schmidt "should be moved to a hospital" but it was his wish to stay at home. Also, asked whether Schmidt would ever recover again, he says "No, sadly I don't believe that." Thanks for the update. Things look grim indeed. I can't read the interview in the Hamburger Abendblatt, but in the assumption that de.nachrichten.yahoo.com didn't make it all up, this sounds very much like Schmidt's Schluss. Yes, that interview is being reported by many different newspapers. Someone in the 14th death of 2015 has posted an english translation of that article. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,037 Posted November 10, 2015 I'll go for Christmas Day 2015, if I'm going to be wrong, it might as well be a celebration anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,037 Posted November 10, 2015 BBC have said he's dead. Link to follow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,037 Posted November 10, 2015 BBC Link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34778565 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,967 Posted November 10, 2015 RIP.... A personal hero of mine (both of the people on the Death List I would like to meet, are dead now), though his actual political actions were not all completely successful. But he had an air of "elder statesman" around him and became the "conscience of the nation" in his last decade of life. He was a contrast to the more pedestrian, power-conscious, ruthless Kohl. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thelast Posted November 10, 2015 the last article only said he might not get any better anytime. his death was just announced. may he rest in peace. http://derstandard.at/2000025366469/Deutscher-Altkanzler-Helmut-Schmidt-gestorben Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Body Snatcher 44 107 Posted November 10, 2015 Schmidt hits the fan 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,967 Posted November 10, 2015 Schmidt another hit? (A record hit with Schmidt?) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,037 Posted November 10, 2015 "Topped Off The Schmidt Parade" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Whitehouse 872 Posted November 10, 2015 Finally stopped smoking. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 6,315 Posted November 10, 2015 For the Tagline how about Helmut still smoking in his coffin.Granted it only works if he is being cremated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lá an Lúbáin Posted November 10, 2015 Vollkornbrot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,037 Posted November 10, 2015 No DDP team had him as their joker, so how about "He was a smoker, not a joker". (Steve Miller Band ref.) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Gemineye22 Posted November 10, 2015 "Schmidt happens!" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Posted November 10, 2015 RIP Helmut. This could accelerate the death of Henry Kissinger who has said he can't imagine living in a world without Schmidt.4 hits in less than 6 weeks with more than 7 to go till the end of year. Surely this is finally the year that stubborn record of 14 will be broken /! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomTomTelekom 3,727 Posted November 10, 2015 Very sad. One of the most famous germans is dead. RIP 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Book 3,556 Posted November 10, 2015 Yes, this is sad. I hope the other Helmut will follow soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mad Hatter 1,092 Posted November 10, 2015 So who will be the record breaker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
