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Was watching a 2010 documentary on India's surprise 1983 Cricket World Cup victory earlier this week. It's quite surprising as Dickie Bird looks and sounds awful and I would have given you very long odds he'd still be alive 9 years later based on that. Conversely, Martin Crowe looks about the youngest and healthiest of all those interviewed. Just watching today's One Day International coverage today and the stadium camera zooms onto Dickie Bird looking far better than he did ten years ago and if not a picture of health, at least not at all bad for someone in their late 80s. The Reaper moves in very mysterious ways. 

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Everton Weekes

 

Cricketing great and last survivor of the three Ws in intensive care following heart attack.

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2 hours ago, Grim Up North said:

Everton Weekes

 

Cricketing great and last survivor of the three Ws in intensive care following heart attack.

DRS reveals its not as bad as first thought and should be discharged in a few days, according to the beeb.

 

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Amazingly there are currently 4 ex-cricketers alive who are over 100.

The oldest is John Manners (born 24 September 1914) who is the only living cricketer who played first class cricket before WW2. He played for Hampshire & Combined Services. No other first class cricketer ever lived to 104 & he is closing in on his 105th run! Incredibly he played first class cricket way back in 1936 not in the summer of 1939.

Archie Scott is 101 & was born on 26 January 1918.

Eileen Whelan is a former women's English Test player and was born on 30 October 1911 so will be 108 later this year.

Thelma McKenzie is a former ladies Test player for Australia and was born on 6 April 1915.

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Malcolm Nash, Glamorgan all-rounder, with decent career bowling figures (first class average of 25.87, best bowling 9-56 - the tenth was a run-out) and a few good batting performances, overshadowed by one over, has died aged 74.

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The last survivor of Bradman's Invincibles side of 1948, 90 year old Neil Harvey is attending the 2nd Ashes Test at Lords later this week according to various media articles. 

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Tom Carter was a young cricketer who I think was on a few folks shortlists back in 2015-16 when he had severe bone cancer, only for him to beat the cancer into remission and return to cricket after a leg amputation.

 

Well, the cancer apparently recently came back and he died last week aged only 25.

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Probably a more appropriate place for this question.

 

Question for the cricket fans....

 

Is the hundred basically cricket's version of power snooker?*

 

(a overambitious (not really) cool and hip (sarcasm implied) idea thought up by out of touch morons to appeal to non-traditional fans that absolutely irritates and makes no sense to normal fans of the sport and will not bring anyone new on board?)

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Time that John Woodcock (born 1926) is added to this forum. He was cricket correspondent of The Times from 1954 to 1987 and has written for the paper every year since. He has outlived at least one successor (Christopher Martin-Jenkins) & amazingly his father was 70 when he was born. Not many alive today had a father born in 1856!!! Even more astonishing is the fact that his paternal grandfather was born before the Battle of Waterloo in 1815!!! Research online so far has only found the 2  living grandsons of the US President from 1841-45 to have a grandfather born earlier.

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On ‎16‎/‎07‎/‎2019 at 14:10, The Watcher said:

Amazingly there are currently 4 ex-cricketers alive who are over 100.

The oldest is John Manners (born 24 September 1914) who is the only living cricketer who played first class cricket before WW2. He played for Hampshire & Combined Services. No other first class cricketer ever lived to 104 & he is closing in on his 105th run! Incredibly he played first class cricket way back in 1936 not in the summer of 1939.

Archie Scott is 101 & was born on 26 January 1918.

Eileen Whelan is a former women's English Test player and was born on 30 October 1911 so will be 108 later this year.

Thelma McKenzie is a former ladies Test player for Australia and was born on 6 April 1915.

Archie Scott out for 101: http://www.cricketscotland.com/archie-scott-scotlands-oldest-living-cricket-dies/

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On 16/07/2019 at 14:10, The Watcher said:

Amazingly there are currently 4 ex-cricketers alive who are over 100.

The oldest is John Manners (born 24 September 1914) who is the only living cricketer who played first class cricket before WW2. He played for Hampshire & Combined Services. No other first class cricketer ever lived to 104 & he is closing in on his 105th run! Incredibly he played first class cricket way back in 1936 not in the summer of 1939.

Archie Scott is 101 & was born on 26 January 1918.

Eileen Whelan is a former women's English Test player and was born on 30 October 1911 so will be 108 later this year.

Thelma McKenzie is a former ladies Test player for Australia and was born on 6 April 1915.

 

I’m not at all convinced that Thelma McKenzie is alive at almost 105.

 

Reason - no independent source that mentions her for decades. Instead she’s listed as alive on Wikipedia for the simple reason that he ESPN site doesn’t have a death date filled in for her. 

 

Can anyone shed some light on this?

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14 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:

 

I’m not at all convinced that Thelma McKenzie is alive at almost 105.

 

Reason - no independent source that mentions her for decades. Instead she’s listed as alive on Wikipedia for the simple reason that he ESPN site doesn’t have a death date filled in for her. 

 

Can anyone shed some light on this?

 

There's a local magazine for the Victoria area of Australia published April 23, 2017 that has a feature on a 105-year-old woman called Thelma McKenzie... is it her and the ESPN site has the wrong DOB?

 

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59 minutes ago, Spade_Cooley said:

 

There's a local magazine for the Victoria area of Australia published April 23, 2017 that has a feature on a 105-year-old woman called Thelma McKenzie... is it her and the ESPN site has the wrong DOB?

 

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I saw that. Which means she’d actually be almost 107. Though nothing that links the two. No mention of cricket. And the territories are different. ESPN’s McKenzie is NSW. That one is Victoria, though I suppose they are right next to each other. Hmmm annoyingly mysterious.

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And its over for RGD Willis

 

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Breaking News on Talksport Radio. Cricketer Bob Willis has passed away after a short illness aged 70. 

 

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Shocking news. Must have been sudden as he was a regular on Sky Sports until very recently. With Willis and Graeme Dilley dying pretty young and Geoff Boycott in precarious health, it's noticeable how English cricketers from the legendary 1981 Ashes are struggling compared to the Aussie line up of that era. 

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11 minutes ago, Deathrace said:

Shocking news. Must have been sudden as he was a regular on Sky Sports until very recently. With Willis and Graeme Dilley dying pretty young and Geoff Boycott in precarious health, it's noticeable how English cricketers from the legendary 1981 Ashes are struggling compared to the Aussie line up of that era. 

Seen it described as a Short illness.

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