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[arghton 6,876]

On 03/09/2021 at 13:42, gcreptile said:

I mean, because of Arghton's posts I now have the impression that half the Finnish people are old, sick or dead.

 

(That said, I scored in the AltObits pool because of him, thanks a lot!) 

I actually did a 50-person list of ailing/old/frail/dying Finnish celebs around august 2020 and only a few have died since, even though there are a lot of older ones:

 

Finnish people list

1. Paavo Lipponen, former PM with serious heart problems, 80

2. Ele Alenius, politician and last Finnish minister alive from the 60s, 96

3. Marjatta Väänänen, former minister of education, 97 (DEAD: 16th October 2020)

4. Tellervo Koivisto, widow of president Mauno Koivisto, 92

5. Paavo Suominen, founder and owner of Huurre, 101 (DEAD: 9th of April 2022)

6. Helvi Härmä, oldest Finnish person, 109 (DEAD: 24th December 2020)

7. Janita Lukkarinen, social media star, 27 (DEAD: 27th November 2020, lymphoma)

8. Paavo Nikula, father of Jone Nikula, former Chancellor of Justice until his 2007 intracranial hemorrhage, 79

9. Paavo Väyrynen, veteran politician and perennial candidate for president, 75

10. Heimo Linna, former minister and Väyrynen supporter, 95

11. Ilmari Koppinen, runner, 103

12. Vesa-Matti Loiri, Uuno Turhapuro actor, 76

13. Rainer Partanen, europositron scammer, 81

14. Keijo Vilhunen, United Brotherhood crime boss, 61

15. Veli Seppä, art forger reported to be dying in 2019, 73

16. Tauno Pasanen, man who shot five police officers in 1969 and subject of the 1971 movie Kahdeksan surmanluotia, 87

17. Pave Maijanen, eurovision contestant, 70 (DEAD: 16th January 2021, ALS)

18. Martti Ahtisaari, former president of Finland, 84

19. Eeva Ahtisaari, Martti's wife, 85

20. Joakim Donner, geologist and Jörn Donner's older brother, 94

21. Aira Samulin, dancer, 94

22. Ilkka Kuusisto, composer, 88

23. Eino Grön, singer, 82

24. Satu Tiivola, businesswoman, 97

25. Tuomas Gerdt, last Mannerheim cross repicient, 98 (DEAD: 1st November 2020)

Part 2, added ca. october 2020:

26. Kurt Westerholm, President Kekkonen's assistant, 100 (DEAD: 1st of April 1973, death never mentioned anywhere and thought to be alive until December 2020)

27. Salme Haltia, 2018 linnan juhlat guest, 109 (DEAD: August 2021)

28. Carl Olof Tallgren, former minister, 94

29. Ulf Sundqvist, politician who had cancer and a heart attack in the 2000s, 76

30. Taisto Tähkämaa, black dozen leader, 96

31. Viktor Klimenko, singer, 78

32. Kari Tuomisaari, schlager lyricist, 87 (DEAD: 21th of June 2021)

33. Astrid Qvist, centenarian, 109

34. Sirkka Nieminen, centenarian, 109

35. Aino Lehmus, centenarian, 108 (DEAD: 27th of July 2021)

36. Martta Nurmela, centenarian, 108

37. Elisabeth Rehn, minister, 86

38. Raimo Vistbacka, 75

39. Timo Soini, populist, 59

40. Iiro Viinanen, minister, 76

41. Tarja Halonen, president, 77

42. Sinikka Luja-Penttilä, former minister, 96

43. Arvo Aalto, minister, 89

44. Meänteis (Reijo Savinainen), hermit, 85

45. Veera, former Särkänniemi dolfin, 42 (DEAD: 1st of June 2021, cardiac arrest)

46. Lennu, Sauli Niinistö's dog, 10 (DEAD: 21st of May 2021, pituitary gland tumor)

47. Dani, Finnish Helsinki-Vantaa detection dog and most successful Finnish detection dog, 12 (DEAD: 29th October 2020, euthanasia a few days after diagnosed with incurable stomach cancer)

48. Matti Louekoski, minister, 80

49. Erkki Tuomioja, 75

50. Carl-Olaf Homen, 85

 

Some could be good picks, Klimenko and Eino Grön feel like the ones who could live for another 10+ years but for example Lipponen, Nikula and Soini are ones I'm suprised aren't dead yet, Timo Soini has been around 150kg/330lbs for most of his life and has had a couple of heart attacks. Lipponen has probably had atleast five heart attacks, confirmedly over 9 heart operations but somehow has still bounced back. Nikula hasn't been seen in public for 14 years after his hemorrhage.

 

New list for October 2021-2023:

 

1. Martti Ahtisaari (1937-16 October 2023) President 1994-2000, Alzheimer's
2. Jyrki Kasvi (1964-16 November 2021) Former parliament member, incurable cancer
3. Viesker (1989-21 February 2022) Best Finnish racehorse in history
4. Paavo Lipponen (1941-) Prime Minister 1995-2003, impressive history of heart problems
5. Astrid Swan (1982-) Musician and singer, incurable cancer
6. Tellervo Koivisto (1929-) Widow of Mauno Koivisto, former parliament member and first lady
7. Ele Alenius (1925-19 November 2023) Politician, last living minister from the 1960s, stroke
8. Paavo Suominen (1920-9 April 2022) Vuorineuvos, founder of Huurre
9. Paavo Nikula (1942-) Politician, Chancellor of Justice 1998-2007, stroke
10. Vesa-Matti Loiri (1945-10 August 2022) Singer, actor with an long health history
11. Heimo Linna (1925-14 November 2022) Politician, former Minister
12. Tauno Pasanen (1934-) Murderer
13. Joakim Donner (1926-) Jörn's older brother
14. Ilmari Koppinen (1918-) Professor, runner
15. Peter Nygård (1942-) Finnish-Canadian businessman, horrible person
16. Aira Samulin (1927-23 October 2023) Dancer, friend of Nygård
17. Ilkka Kuusisto (1933-) Composer
18. Satu Tiivola (1924-7 December 2023) Businesswoman, covid and a fall
19. Carl Olof Tallgren (1927-) Former minister
20. Taistö Tähkämaa (1924-) Former minister, WWII veteran
21. Timo Soini (1962-) Politician, former minister, obese
22. Sinikka Luja-Penttilä (1924-18 November 2022) Former minister
23. Eila Roine (1931-) Children's TV face, actress
24. Remu Aaltonen (1948-) Rock singer, musician
25. Juhani Palmu (1944-) Artist, cancer, heart problems and wheelchair-bound survivor of two housefires
26. Jukka Tammi (1962-) Hockey player, heart problems
27. Iiro Viinanen (1944-) Former Minister, parkinson's for over 20 years
28. Outi Heiskanen (1937-30 September 2022) Artist, end-stage alzheimer's
29. Keijo Virtamo (1919-19 November 2021) Encyclopedist and tv show competitor, last WWII veteran of the Ässärykmentti
30. Anssi Kukkonen (1934-) Tv sports presenter, survivor of five cancers
31. Tarja Halonen (1943-) Former President 2000-2012
32. Leif Segerstam (1944-) Conductor, composer, George RR Martin lookalike and cancer survivor
33. Kaj Chydenius (1939-20 April 2024) Composer
34. Jorma Panula (1930-) Controversial composer
35. Veijo Baltzar (1942-) Author, cultural councellor, horrible person no. 2
36. Kirsi Kunnas (1924-8 November 2021) Author, poet
37. Jaakko Syrjä (1926-22 May 2022) Author, husband of Kunnas. Alzheimer's
38. Veikko Kasslin (1919-19 November 2021) SS veteran
39. Ristomatti Ratia (1941-) Alzheimer's
40. Esko Salminen (1940-) Actor
41. Antti Litja (1938-13 July 2022) Actor, stroke in 2014
42. Kai Lind (1937-) Singer, jazz musician, two falls
43. Anja Hatakka/Geissbuhler (1938-) Actress, in a wheelchair
44. Armi Kuusela (1934-) First Miss Universe winner
45. Taneli Rinne (1934-25 Sept 2021) Actor, with Hatakka one of the two last living actors in Tuntematon Sotilas
46. Jaakko Valtanen (1925-17 January 2024) General, former Chief of Defence, WWII vet
47. Gustav Hägglund (1937-) General, former Chief of Defence, giant ego
48. Danny, Ilkka Lipsanen (1942-) Singer, running out of time?
49. Andy McCoy (1962-) Singer, rock musician. Heroin, alcohol etc
50. Ulf Sundqvist (1945-22 April 2024) Politician, former minister. Two cancers, heart attack

[Banana 865]

10 hours ago, arghton said:

I actually did a 50-person list of ailing/old/frail/dying Finnish celebs around august 2020 and only a few have died since, even though there are a lot of older ones:

 

Finnish people list

1. Paavo Lipponen, former PM with serious heart problems, 80

2. Ele Alenius, politician and last Finnish minister alive from the 60s, 96

3. Marjatta Väänänen, former minister of education, 97 (DEAD: 16th October 2020)

4. Tellervo Koivisto, widow of president Mauno Koivisto, 92

5. Paavo Suominen, founder and owner of Huurre, 101

6. Helvi Härmä, oldest Finnish person, 109 (DEAD: 24th December 2020)

7. Janita Lukkarinen, social media star, 27 (DEAD: 27th November 2020, lymphoma)

8. Paavo Nikula, father of Jone Nikula, former Chancellor of Justice until his 2007 intracranial hemorrhage, 79

9. Paavo Väyrynen, veteran politician and perennial candidate for president, 75

10. Heimo Linna, former minister and Väyrynen supporter, 95

11. Ilmari Koppinen, runner, 103

12. Vesa-Matti Loiri, Uuno Turhapuro actor, 76

13. Rainer Partanen, europositron scammer, 81

14. Keijo Vilhunen, United Brotherhood crime boss, 61

15. Veli Seppä, art forger reported to be dying in 2019, 73

16. Tauno Pasanen, man who shot five police officers in 1969 and subject of the 1971 movie Kahdeksan surmanluotia, 87

17. Pave Maijanen, eurovision contestant, 70 (DEAD: 16th January 2021, ALS)

18. Martti Ahtisaari, former president of Finland, 84

19. Eeva Ahtisaari, Martti's wife, 85

20. Joakim Donner, geologist and Jörn Donner's older brother, 94

21. Aira Samulin, dancer, 94

22. Ilkka Kuusisto, composer, 88

23. Eino Grön, singer, 82

24. Satu Tiivola, businesswoman, 97

25. Tuomas Gerdt, last Mannerheim cross repicient, 98 (DEAD: 1st November 2020)

Part 2, added ca. october 2020:

26. Kurt Westerholm, President Kekkonen's assistant, 100 (DEAD: 1st of April 1973, death never mentioned anywhere and thought to be alive until December 2020)

27. Salme Haltia, 2018 linnan juhlat guest, 109 (DEAD: August 2021)

28. Carl Olof Tallgren, former minister, 94

29. Ulf Sundqvist, politician who had cancer and a heart attack in the 2000s, 76

30. Taisto Tähkämaa, black dozen leader, 96

31. Viktor Klimenko, singer, 78

32. Kari Tuomisaari, schlager lyricist, 87 (DEAD: 21th of June 2021)

33. Astrid Qvist, centenarian, 109

34. Sirkka Nieminen, centenarian, 109

35. Aino Lehmus, centenarian, 108 (DEAD: 27th of July 2021)

36. Martta Nummela, centenarian, 108

37. Elisabeth Rehn, minister, 86

38. Raimo Vistbacka, 75

39. Timo Soini, populist, 59

40. Iiro Viinanen, minister, 76

41. Tarja Halonen, president, 77

42. Sinikka Luja-Penttilä, former minister, 96

43. Arvo Aalto, minister, 89

44. Meänteis (Reijo Savinainen), hermit, 85

45. Veera, former Särkänniemi dolfin, 42 (DEAD: 1st of June 2021, cardiac arrest)

46. Lennu, Sauli Niinistö's dog, 10 (DEAD: 21st of May 2021, pituitary gland tumor)

47. Dani, Finnish Helsinki-Vantaa detection dog and most successful Finnish detection dog, 12 (DEAD: 29th October 2020, euthanasia a few days after diagnosed with incurable stomach cancer)

48. Matti Louekoski, minister, 80

49. Erkki Tuomioja, 75

50. Carl-Olaf Homen, 85

 

Some could be good picks, Klimenko and Eino Grön feel like the ones who could live for another 10+ years but for example Lipponen, Nikula and Soini are ones I'm suprised aren't dead yet, Timo Soini has been around 150kg/330lbs for most of his life and has had a couple of heart attacks. Lipponen has probably had atleast five heart attacks, confirmedly over 9 heart operations but somehow has still bounced back. Nikula hasn't been seen in public for 14 years after his hemorrhage.

 

And Arghton finally mentions the Finn I picked in AO, all it took was a top 50 dying Finns list

[Bentrovato 1,104]

Never heard of him, but Sunil Perera, Sri Lankan musician and all round big star over there, has passed. Sunil Perera: Sri Lanka's larger than life music legend dies at 68 - BBC News

[drol 12,144]

On 22/12/2020 at 15:31, drol said:

Well, don't exaggerate, Brasseur is not Delon or Belmondo in any possible way! 

Dead.

[Slackhurst Broadcasting 377]

Jean-Paul Belmondo's a major death in French film, one of the key actors of the New Wave.

 

And Jane Birkin has just had a stroke.

[Lafaucheuse 4,083]

3 minutes ago, Slackhurst Broadcasting said:

Jean-Paul Belmondo's a major death in French film, one of the key actors of the New Wave.

 

And Jane Birkin has just had a stroke.

Just found out about her stroke : I really really wish it’s not serious, I love her so much

[RoverAndOut 4,755]

56 minutes ago, drol said:

Dead.

 

BBC Obit: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-11811293

[YoungWillz 21,213]

On 30/10/2016 at 00:47, CaptainChorizo said:

Don't know the current health status of any of these fella's from Italy but certainly should be on people's radars the next few years based on age.

 

Nino Castelnuovo born 1936 -100% would get a DDP Qualifying Orbit because of his roles in Umbrellas of Cherbourg and The English Patient

 

Lando Buzzanca born 1935 -70-80% certain he would get a QO Orbit . Another actor Giorgio Albertazzi, with a similiar lengthy resume in Italy got a Guardian Orbit earlier this year.

Aldo Puglisi born 1935- 50/50 chance Hasn't been in anything in decades. Most memorable performance,Peppino in the classic comedy" Seduced And Abandoned" was never shown in UK theater's according to IMDB

Nino Castelnuovo is reportedly morte: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=https://www.ansa.it/sito/notizie/cultura/2021/09/07/e-morto-lattore-nino-castelnuovo-_fd0cf202-2037-4d69-abcc-76866b3b5f4a.html&prev=search&pto=aue

 

Let's see if the guaranteed obit comes...should do...

[HDS 244]

On 14/08/2021 at 18:20, arghton said:

https://eu.azcentral.com/story/entertainment/music/2021/08/14/vicente-fernandez-remains-hospitalized-sedated-and-in-recovery/8130942002/

Vicente Fernandez update:

"He is currently under treatment. We are waiting a response in the recovery of mobility and respiratory effort. At this moment, Mr. Vicente Fernández is stable, awake, with analgesia and sedation and receiving rehabilitation therapy"

 

Apparently has some kind of a peripheral nerve infection/disease that caused him to fall from his "own height" causing him a spine injury. Also developed a lung condition while in ICU.

Vicente Fernandez Death rumors circulating, but being refuted by family. 
 

A game of telephone? 

[TomTomTelekom 3,731]

Algerian independent fighter and civil right activist Saadi Yacef died at 93 years:

https://www.algerie360.com/yacef-saadi-est-mort-un-grand-nom-de-la-revolution-seteint/

He was senator in Algeria's Council of the Nation who led Algeria's National Liberation Front during the country's war for independence, which occurred from 1954 to 1962.

In the war he was captured by the French military and sentenced to death but was eventually pardoned after Charles de Gaulle returned to power in 1958.

 

[drol 12,144]

2 hours ago, TomTomTelekom said:

Algerian independent fighter and civil right activist Saadi Yacef died at 93 years:

https://www.algerie360.com/yacef-saadi-est-mort-un-grand-nom-de-la-revolution-seteint/

He was senator in Algeria's Council of the Nation who led Algeria's National Liberation Front during the country's war for independence, which occurred from 1954 to 1962.

In the war he was captured by the French military and sentenced to death but was eventually pardoned after Charles de Gaulle returned to power in 1958.

 

Big one in Algeria. Also he was an icon of the Italian left for some time and leftist director Gillo Pontecorvo had him starring in "The Battle of Algiers".

[arghton 6,876]

6 hours ago, HDS said:

Vicente Fernandez Death rumors circulating, but being refuted by family. 
 

A game of telephone? 

https://www.elfinanciero.com.mx/espectaculos/2021/09/10/hijo-de-vicente-fernandez-aclara-rumores-sobre-la-salud-de-su-padre/

According to an update from a couple of days ago, he is stable but apparently still on artificial respiratory support and needs a feeding tube.

[Banana 865]

2 hours ago, arghton said:

https://www.elfinanciero.com.mx/espectaculos/2021/09/10/hijo-de-vicente-fernandez-aclara-rumores-sobre-la-salud-de-su-padre/

According to an update from a couple of days ago, he is stable but apparently still on artificial respiratory support and needs a feeding tube.

I sure hope no one tells him about the phallic object being shoved down his throat, might give him a heart attack

[Cruyff's Turn 11]

On 6 September 2021 at 16:21, Slackhurst Broadcasting said:

Jean-Paul Belmondo's a major death in French film, one of the key actors of the New Wave.

 

And Jane Birkin has just had a stroke.

Serge gave her quite a few strokes.

[arghton 6,876]

https://marketresearchtelecast.com/vicente-fernandez-wife-of-mexican-singer-underwent-emergency-surgery/156036/

Vicente Fernandez's wife María del Refugio Villaseñor now apparently also in hospital, underwent an emergency hernia surgery.

[YoungWillz 21,213]

On 20/03/2016 at 08:44, Predictor said:

Although technically "old news" by now, I don't think the following news was ever reported here:

 

Those of you who watched the French equivalent of Dancing With the Stars in 2011 might recall an octogenarian actress being one of the contestants. Marthe Mercadier (born 23 October 1928) was the 3rd person to be eliminated, so with that (probably traumatic) failure in mind, perhaps it's a blessing in disguise that she was diagnosed in February 2013 with Alzheimer's?

 

http://www.lepoint.fr/marthe-mercadier-a-la-maladie-d-alzheimer-08-04-2014-1811067_19.php

 

A more recent article, from 2016, revealed that she once stated that she'd rather "kill herself" than end up in a nursing home.

 

http://www.closermag.fr/tele/videos-tele/marthe-mercadier-atteinte-d-alzheimer-elle-a-perdu-la-memoire-immediate-video-593116

Marthe Mercadier is no more: https://www-lemonde-fr.translate.goog/disparitions/article/2021/09/15/marthe-mercadier-la-reine-du-theatre-de-boulevard-est-morte_6094777_3382.html?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=nui,sc,elem

 

IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0580143/

 

One for the French Speaking Deathlist I understand.

[Lafaucheuse 4,083]

2 minutes ago, YoungWillz said:

Marthe Mercadier is no more: https://www-lemonde-fr.translate.goog/disparitions/article/2021/09/15/marthe-mercadier-la-reine-du-theatre-de-boulevard-est-morte_6094777_3382.html?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=nui,sc,elem

 

IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0580143/

 

One for the French Speaking Deathlist I understand.

+1 for my list

[arghton 6,876]

https://www.unotv.com/entretenimiento/vicente-fernandez-manda-mensaje-a-sus-fans-agradece-oraciones/

Vicente Fernandez still in intensive care but "slowly improving"

 

https://www.elfinanciero.com.mx/estados/2021/09/16/dona-cuquita-esposa-de-vicente-fernandez-es-dada-de-alta-tras-cirugia-de-hernia

Maria del Refugio Villasenor discharged but does not seem to be in very great health.

[alt obits guy 3,385]

Portuguese historian, sociologist and art critic José-Augusto França has died at the age of 98. 

 

https://jornaltxopela.com/2021/09/morreu-jose-augusto-franca-historiador-sociologo-e-critico-de-arte/

(Portuguese language obit.)

 

Edit: https://then24.com/2021/09/18/the-historian-sociologist-and-art-critic-jose-augusto-franca-has-died/

 

[MariNisia 4,243]

Mario Camus, one of the most important film directors of Spanish cinema, dies at 86 years:
https://variety.com/2021/film/obituaries-people-news/spanish-director-mario-camus-dies-1235067933/

Camus won the Golden Bear at the Berlin Film Festival in 1983 with "La Colmena" ("The Beehive"), the film about the aftermath of the Spanish Civil War that converted the homonymous novel by the great Camilo José Cela into images, and, the following year, a special mention from the jury at the Cannes Film Festival for his adaptation of "Los santos inocentes" ("The Holy Innocents") by Miguel Delibes, and its two stars won the best actor award jointly.

[alt obits guy 3,385]

Jolidee Matongo, the newly elected mayor of Johannesburg, South Africa, has died. He was 46. Matongo died in a car accident about five weeks after becoming mayor.

 

https://www.news24.com/news24/southafrica/news/just-in-new-joburg-mayor-jolidee-matongo-has-died-in-a-car-accident-20210918

[alt obits guy 3,385]

On 07/09/2021 at 11:38, YoungWillz said:

Nino Castelnuovo is reportedly morte: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=https://www.ansa.it/sito/notizie/cultura/2021/09/07/e-morto-lattore-nino-castelnuovo-_fd0cf202-2037-4d69-abcc-76866b3b5f4a.html&prev=search&pto=aue

 

Let's see if the guaranteed obit comes...should do...

Getting closer to a QO: International edition of Guardian obit: https://www.theguardian.com/film/2021/sep/19/nino-castelnuovo-obituary

[msc 18,543]

Just now, alt obits guy said:

Getting closer to a QO: International edition of Guardian obit: https://www.theguardian.com/film/2021/sep/19/nino-castelnuovo-obituary

 

That IS a QO btw, the Guardian posts the same article worldwide which is why when I clicked your link its "UK edition".

[gcreptile 11,078]

I gave him the yahoo QO quite some time ago.

[msc 18,543]

1 minute ago, gcreptile said:

I gave him the yahoo QO quite some time ago.

 

Luckily you are more on the ball than some!