RIP Wee Jum 1,558 Posted June 26, 2023 RIP to another great Scotland manager 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 8,662 Posted June 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, RIP Wee Jum said: RIP to another great Scotland manager There has been more than one? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 19,100 Posted June 26, 2023 12 minutes ago, Bibliogryphon said: There has been more than one? Current incumbent doing rather well I'd say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RIP Wee Jum 1,558 Posted June 26, 2023 25 minutes ago, Bibliogryphon said: There has been more than one? Wattie Smith got Scotland to 13th in the World. Very good for us Arguably Scotlands best ever manager 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinbabad 826 Posted June 26, 2023 UPDATE after Craig Brown’s death : Last surviving (and still living) coaches [until 1990 - names of living coaches are included]: 1998 - 30/35 [Nations - 27/32] 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DoorSlammer 424 Posted June 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, Sinbabad said: UPDATE after Craig Brown’s death : Last surviving (and still living) coaches [until 1990 - names of living coahces are included]: 1974 - 2/16 (Rale Rasic, Australia; Mario Zagallo, Brazil) Rale Rasic died earlier this month. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cropsy 42 Posted June 26, 2023 So sad to hear of Craig Brown passing away Great manager and good guy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinbabad 826 Posted July 1, 2023 Oscar Arizaga, who was in Peru’s squad at the 1982 World Cup, has died aged 65 on 26th June. He was an unused substitute as Peru was eliminated in group stage. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinbabad 826 Posted July 1, 2023 Christian Dalger, who was a member of France’s squad for the 1978 World Cup, has died aged 73. He only played the first match against Italy. This was his sixth and last cap with France. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Il Magneto 18 Posted July 2, 2023 10 hours ago, Sinbabad said: Christian Dalger, who was a member of France’s squad for the 1978 World Cup, has died aged 73. He only played the first match against Italy. This was his sixth and last cap with France. Along with Papi, Dropsy and Michel, he is the 4th player of the French 1978 WC squad to pass away 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinbabad 826 Posted July 2, 2023 1978 players whose deaths were unnoticed on this forum (on this topic or in Time Added) : Mexican Carlos Gomez Casillas died on 16 December 2017 aged 65. He only played Mexico’s third and last match against Poland. German Rolf Russman died on 2 October 2019 aged 58. He played the whole 6 games of West Germany as they were eliminated in the second group stage. Austrian Eduard ‘Edi’ Krieger died on 20 December 2019 aged 73. He played 5 of Austria’s 6 games, as they were knocked out in the second group stage. His teammate Peter Persidis died on 21 January 2009 aged 61. He was an unused substitute by Austria. Brazilian Chicao died on 8 October 2008 aged 59. He played 3 matches out of 7. Iranian goalkeeper Nasser Hejazi died on 23 May 2011 aged 61. He played Iran’s all 3 games for their first participation in a World Cup. Dutch goalkeeper Pim Doesburg died on 18 November 2020 aged 77. He was an unused substitute. Peruvian goalkeeper Ottorino Sartor died on 2 June 2021 aged 75. He was an unused substitute. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,180 Posted July 3, 2023 I wonder how many of theoretical 1978 England squad would have died had they qualified. Of the four matches England played in May 1978 the following players involved are still alive Peter Shilton Mick Mills Dave Watson Stephen Coppell Trevor Francis Bob Latchford Trevor Brooking Peter Barnes Tony Currie Tony Woodcock Stuart Pearson Joe Corrigan Phil Neal Kevin Keegan Dead. Trevor Cherry Brian Greenhoff Ray Wilkins Paul Mariner Ray Clemence Emlyn Hughes 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinbabad 826 Posted July 3, 2023 Update of 1966 World Cup after Horst-Dieter Hottges death on 22 June (thanks @Octopus of Odstock for the information) 1966 – 131 survivors Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinbabad 826 Posted July 3, 2023 List of finalists players : 1930-1958 : all dead 1962 : Amarildo for Brazil and Josef Jelinek for Czechoslovakia are alive 1966 : Geoff Hurst alive for England, 6 dead for Germany 1970 : 4 dead for Brazil, 4 dead for Italy 1974 : 4 dead for Germany, 5 dead for Netherlands 1978 : 2 dead for Argentina, 5 dead for Netherlands 1982 : 2 dead for Italy, all German are alive 1986 : 3 dead for Argentina, 1 dead for Germany 1990 : only Andreas Brehme for Germany and Diego Maradona for Argentina are dead 1994-2022 : all finalists are alive 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,180 Posted July 3, 2023 A theoretical list of English squad contenders for the 1974 World Cup has a lot of dead players. Dead Paul Madely Emlyn Hughes Colin Bell Norman Hunter Martin Peters Bobby Moore Peter Osgood Alan Ball Alive Peter Shilton Roy McFarland Tony Currie Mick Channon Martin Chivers Allan Clarke Kevin Keegan Kevin Hector 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,180 Posted July 6, 2023 The England 1970 World Cup squad must have been one of the more unlucky ones as four died in their 50’s. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 19,100 Posted July 6, 2023 Attila Abonyi, Hungarian born player for the Australia National team at their first appearance at the WC Finals in 1974, reportedly dead: https://au.sports.yahoo.com/socceroos-great-atilla-abonyi-mourned-100816885.html 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ObakeFilter 781 Posted July 7, 2023 Former Manchester United and Ajax goalkeeper Edwin van der Sar is being treated in intensive care after suffering a bleed on his brain. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/jul/07/edwin-van-der-sar-intensive-care-brain-bleed-manchester-united-ajax 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathrace 1,099 Posted July 8, 2023 On 04/07/2023 at 00:52, The Old Crem said: A theoretical list of English squad contenders for the 1974 World Cup has a lot of dead players. Dead Paul Madely Emlyn Hughes Colin Bell Norman Hunter Martin Peters Bobby Moore Peter Osgood Alan Ball Alive Peter Shilton Roy McFarland Tony Currie Mick Channon Martin Chivers Allan Clarke Kevin Keegan Kevin Hector As an aside, amazing England didn't qualify with those players as some real quality there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 17,762 Posted July 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Deathrace said: As an aside, amazing England didn't qualify with those players as some real quality there. For 1974 they faced an inspired Polish keeper. Poland went on to the World Cup semifinals. In 1978 they were in the same group as Italy and only one of them could qualify. Victims of the sixteen teams only World Cup format at the time. Both their vanquishers did very well at those world cups. Italy were about ten minutes away from the final iirc. They finished second to Hungary in 1982 qualifying but by then it was twenty four teams at the cup so England made it through. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whoismakoto 285 Posted July 9, 2023 It's possible that Burhan Sargun could die off-radar when Fenerbahçe says they no longer have updates on him. https://fenerbahcetarihi.org/2023/01/canavar-burhan-roportaji/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 1,861 Posted July 9, 2023 2 hours ago, whoismakoto said: It's possible that Burhan Sargun could die off-radar when Fenerbahçe says they no longer have updates on him. https://fenerbahcetarihi.org/2023/01/canavar-burhan-roportaji/ Two things to take from that. One, it's a fan club interview, not the official.club website, so it's the fan club that don't know how he is. Two, Mehmet Dincer is dead (off radar, so your fears are justified) as Sargun is labelled as Fenerbache's oldest living player. Dincer, 5 years older, must have died. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drol 10,062 Posted July 9, 2023 Inter legend Luis Suarez dead at 88. 6 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinbabad 826 Posted July 9, 2023 (edited) Update of the 1962 World Cup list 1962 – 69 survivors Soviet Union 11 MF Yozhef Sabo 1 March 1940 (aged 22) Yugoslavia 11 FW Josip Skoblar 12 March 1941 (aged 21) 15 MF Željko Matuš 9 August 1935 (aged 26) 19 GK Mirko Stojanović 11 June 1939 (aged 22) 21 FW Nikola Stipić 18 December 1937 (aged 24) Uruguay 7 FW Domingo Pérez 7 June 1936 (aged 25) 8 MF Julio César Cortés 29 March 1941 (aged 21) 12 GK Luis Maidana 24 February 1934 (aged 28) 14 DF Rubén Soria 23 January 1935 (aged 27) 16 DF Rubén González 17 July 1939 (aged 22) Colombia 2 GK Achito Vivas 1 March 1934 (aged 28) 12 MF Hernando Tovar 7 June 1938 (aged 23) 18 FW Eusebio Escobar 2 July 1936 (aged 25) West Germany 3 DF Karl-Heinz Schnellinger 31 March 1939 (aged 23) 4 DF Willi Schulz 4 October 1938 (aged 23) 7 MF Willi Koslowski 17 February 1937 (aged 25) 15 MF Willi Giesemann 2 September 1937 (aged 24) Chile 2 DF Luis Eyzaguirre 22 June 1939 (aged 22) 4 DF Sergio Navarro 20 November 1936 (aged 25) 12 GK Adán Godoy 26 November 1936 (aged 25) 16 DF Humberto Cruz 6 December 1939 (aged 23) 19 FW Braulio Musso 24 May 1937 (aged 25) 22 GK Manuel Astorga 16 March 1943 (aged 19) Italy 1 GK Lorenzo Buffon (captain) 19 December 1929 (aged 32) 6 MF Giovanni Trapattoni 17 March 1939 (aged 23) 8 FW Humberto Maschio 20 February 1933 (aged 29) 9 FW José Altafini 24 July 1938 (aged 23) 11 FW Giampaolo Menichelli 29 June 1938 (aged 23) 13 GK Enrico Albertosi 2 November 1939 (aged 22) 14 FW Gianni Rivera 18 August 1943 (aged 18) 15 FW Angelo Sormani 3 July 1939 (aged 22) 16 DF Enzo Robotti 13 June 1935 (aged 26) Switzerland 10 DF Fritz Kehl 12 July 1937 (aged 24) 12 FW Marcel Vonlanthen 8 September 1933 (aged 28) 19 FW Gilbert Rey 30 October 1930 (aged 31) Brazil 11 FW Pepe 25 February 1935 (aged 27) 17 MF Mengálvio 17 December 1939 (aged 22) 18 FW Jair da Costa 9 July 1940 (aged 21) 20 FW Amarildo 29 June 1939 (aged 22) Czechoslovakia 2 DF Jan Lála 10 September 1936 (aged 25) 7 MF Jozef Štibrányi 11 April 1940 (aged 22) 11 FW Josef Jelínek 9 January 1941 (aged 21) Mexico 11 FW Isidoro Díaz 14 March 1940 (aged 22) 15 DF Ignacio Jáuregui 31 July 1938 (aged 23) 21 FW Alberto Baeza 6 December 1938 (aged 23) Spain 1 GK José Araquistáin 4 March 1937 (aged 25) 2 GK Salvador Sadurní 3 April 1941 (aged 21) 3 GK Carmelo 6 December 1930 (aged 31) 4 FW Enrique Collar 2 November 1934 (aged 27) 16 DF Severino Reija 25 November 1938 (aged 23) 18 MF Adelardo 26 September 1939 (aged 22) 19 DF José Santamaría 31 July 1929 (aged 32) Hungary 17 FW Gyula Rákosi 9 October 1938 (aged 23)) 20 FW László Bödör 17 August 1933 (aged 28) 21 GK Antal Szentmihályi 3 June 1937 (aged 24) England 17 MF Bryan Douglas 27 May 1934 (aged 28) 19 FW Alan Peacock 29 October 1937 (aged 24). 20 MF George Eastham 23 September 1936 (aged 25) Argentina 9 FW Marcelo Pagani 19 August 1941 (aged 20) 10 FW José Sanfilippo 4 May 1935 (aged 27) 14 DF Alberto Mariotti 23 August 1935 (aged 26) 16 MF Antonio Rattín 16 May 1937 (aged 25) 20 FW Juan Carlos Oleniak 4 March 1942 (aged 20) 21 MF Ramón Abeledo 29 April 1937 (aged 25) Bulgaria 4 MF Stoyan Kitov 27 August 1938 (aged 23) 5 DF Dimitar Kostov 26 July 1936 (aged 25) 1 FW Dimitar Yakimov 12 July 1941 (aged 20) 12 DF Dobromir Zhechev 12 November 1942 (aged 19) 22 FW Georgi Nikolov 1 May 1931 (aged 31) Edited March 22 by Sinbabad 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinbabad 826 Posted July 9, 2023 (edited) Update of the 1966 World Cup : 1966 – 121 survivors - No records whether alive or dead: North Korea Soviet Union 3 DF Vladimir Ponomaryov 18 February 1940 (aged 26) 7 MF Murtaz Khurtsilava 5 January 1943 (aged 23) 8 MF Yozhef Sabo 1 March 1940 (aged 26) 10 DF Vasiliy Danilov 13 May 1941 (aged 25) 14 MF Giorgi Sichinava 15 September 1944 (aged 21) 17 FW Valeriy Porkujan 4 October 1944 (aged 21) 19 FW Eduard Malofeyev 2 June 1942 (aged 24) 20 FW Eduard Markarov 20 June 1942 (aged 24) 21 GK Anzor Kavazashvili 19 July 1940 (aged 25) Uruguay 4 DF Pablo Forlan 14 Julyy 1945 (aged 20) 7 MF Julio César Cortés 29 March 1941 (aged 25) 8 FW Jose Urruzmendi 25 August 1944 (aged 21) 11 FW Domingo Pérez 7 June 1936 (aged 30) 18 FW Milton Viera 11 May 1946 (aged 20) 21 MF Victor Esparrago 6 October 1944 (aged 21) West Germany 3 DF Karl-Heinz Schnellinger 31 March 1939 (aged 27) 5 DF Willi Schulz 4 October 1938 (aged 27) 6 DF Wolfgang Weber 26 June 1944 (aged 22) 10 FW Sigfried Held 7 August 1942 (aged 23) 12 MF Wolfgang Overath 29 September 1943 (aged 22) 13 FW Heinz Hornig 28 September 1937 (aged 28) 15 DF Bernd Patzke 14 March 1943 (aged 22) 16 MF Max Lorenz 19 August 1939 (aged 27) 17 DF Wolfgang Paul 25 January 1940 (aged 26) 21 GK Gunter Bernard 4 November 1939 (aged 26) 23 GK Sepp Maier 28 February 1944 (aged 22) Chile 1 FW Pedro Araya 23 January 1942 (aged 24) 4 MF Humberto Cruz 8 December 1939 (aged 27) 6 DF Luis Eyzaguirre 22 June 1939 (aged 27) 7 DF Elias Figueroa 25 November 1946 (aged 19) 9 GK Adán Godoy 26 November 1936 (aged 29) 13 GK Juan Olivares 20 February 1941 (aged 25) 14 MF Ignacio Prieto 23 September 1943 (aged 23) 21 DF Hugo Villanueva 9 April 1939 (aged 27) 22 GK Guillermo Yavar 26 March 1943 (aged 23) Italy 1 GK Enrico Albertosi 2 November 1939 (aged 26) 8 DF Aristide Guarneri 7 March 1938 (aged 28) 10 FW Antonio Juliano 1 January 1943 (aged 23) 14 FW Sandro Mazzzola 8 November 1942 (aged 23) 18 GK Pierluigi Pizzaballa 14 September 1939 (aged 26) 19 FW Gianni Rivera 18 August 1943 (aged 22) Switzerland 7 MF Hansruedi Fuhrer 24 December 1937 (aged 28) 12 GK Leo Eichmann 24 December 1936 (aged 29) 14 DF Werner Leimgruber 2 September 1934 (aged 32) 15 MF Karl Odermatt 17 December 1942 (aged 23) 16 FW Rene-Pierre Quentin 5 August 1943 (aged 22) 17 FW Jean-Claude Schindenholz 11 October 1940 (aged 25) 19 MF Xavier Stierli 29 October 1936 (aged 25) 22 GK Mario Prosperi 4 August 1945 (aged 21) Brazil 6 DF Brito 9 August 1939 (aged 26) 8 DF Paolo Henrique 5 January 1943 (aged 23) 11 MF Gerson 11 January 1941 (aged 25) 12 GK Manga 26 April 1937 (aged 28) 13 MF Denilson 28 March 1943 (aged 23) 14 MF Lima 18 January 1942 (aged 24) 17 MF Jairzinho 25 December 1944 (aged 21) 20 MF Tostao 25 January 1947 (aged 19) 21 FW Parana 21 March 1942 (aged 24) 22 FW Edu 6 August 1949 (aged 16) Mexico 5 DF Ignacio Jáuregui 31 July 1938 (aged 27) 6 MF Isidoro Díaz 14 March 1940 (aged 26) 9 FW Ernesto Cisneros 26 October 1940 (aged 25) 11 FW Francisco Jara 3 February 1941 (aged 25) 15 DF Guillermo Hernandez 25 June 1942 (aged 24) 16 MF Luis Regueiro 22 December 1943 (aged 22) 18 MF Elias Munoz 3 November 1941 (aged 24) 20 FW Enrique Borja 20 December 1945 (aged 20) 22 GK Javier Vargas 22 November 1941 (aged 24) Spain 1 GK José Angel Iribar 1 March 1943 (aged 23) 3 DF Eladio 18 November 1940 (aged 25) 7 MF Jose Ufarte 17 May 1941 (aged 25) 9 FW Marcelino 29 April 1940 (aged 31) 13 GK Miguel Reina 24 January 1946 (aged 20) 15 DF Severino Reija 25 November 1938 (aged 28) 17 DF Gallego 4 March 1944 (aged 22) 18 MF Pirri 11 March 1945 (aged 21) 21 MF Adelardo 26 September 1939 (aged 26) Hungary 1 GK Antal Szentmihályi 3 June 1937 (aged 27) 2 DF Beno Kaposzta 7 June 1942 (aged 24) 11 FW Gyula Rákosi 9 October 1938 (aged 27) 15 FW Dezso Molnar 2 December 1939 (aged 26) 19 FW Lajos Puskas 3 August 1944 (aged 21) 20 FW Antal Nagy 16 May 1944 (aged 22) 21 GK Jozsef Gelei 29 June 1938 (aged 28) England 10 FW Geoff Hurst 8 December 1941 (aged 24) 19 FW Terry Paine 23 March 1939 (aged 27) 20 MF Ian Callaghan 10 April 1942 (aged 24). 22 MF George Eastham 23 September 1936 (aged 29) Argentina 3 GK Hugo Gatti 19 August 1944 (aged 21) 6 MF Oscar Calics 19 August 1941 (aged 24) 10 MF Antonio Rattín 16 May 1937 (aged 29) 13 DF Nelson Lopez 24 June 1941 (aged 24) 15 MF Jorge Solari 11 November 1941 (aged 24) 19 FW Luis Artime 2 December 1938 (aged 28) 21 FW Oscar Mas 29 April 1946 (aged 19) Bulgaria 5 DF Dimitar Penev 12 July 1945 (aged 20) 6 DF Dobromir Zhechev 12 November 1942 (aged 23) 8 MF Stoyan Kitov 27 August 1938 (aged 27) 13 FW Dimitar Yakimov 12 July 1941 (aged 24) 18 MF Evgeni Yanchovski 5 September 1939 (aged 26) France 1 GK Marcel Aubour 17 June 1940 (aged 26) 5 DF Bernard Bosquier 19 June 1942 (aged 23) 8 FW Nestor Combin 29 December 1940 (aged 25) 9 FW Didier Couecou 25 July 1944 (aged 21) 11 DF Gabriel De Michele 6 March 1941 (aged 25) 12 DF Jean Djorkaeff 27 October 1939 (aged 26) 14 FW Gerard Hausser 18 March 1939 (aged 27) 15 MF Yves Herbet 17 August 1945 (aged 21) 17 MF Lucien Muller 3 September 1934 (aged 31) 19 FW Laurent Robuschi 5 October 1935 (aged 30) 21 GK Georges Carnus 13 August 1942 (aged 23) 22 GK Johnny Schuth 7 December 1941 (aged 24) Portugal 3 GK Jose Pereira 15 September 1931 (aged 34) 4 DF Vicente 24 September 1935 (aged 30) 7 FW Ernesto Figueiredo 6 July 1937 (aged 29) 8 FW Joao Lourenco 8 April 1942 (aged 24) 9 MF Hilario 19 March 1939 (aged 27) 11 MF Antonio Simoes 14 December 1943 (aged 22) 12 MF Jose Augusto 13 April 1937 (aged 29) 14 MF Fernando Cruz 12 August 1940 (aged 25) 21 DF Jose Carlos 22 September 1941 (aged 25) Edited April 5 by Sinbabad 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
