Bibliogryphon 9,507 Posted May 5, 2015 Charlotte Elizabeth Diana. I wonder what Liz & Phil think of that? The old girl has to approve the name, doesn't she, as a matter of protocol? She must have bit her lip and rubber-stamped it (the name that is, not her lip). If Diana had not been in there then a lot of questions would be asked about what has happend behind the scenes. This name has as much an eye on public opinion as it does on the rest of the family. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,060 Posted May 5, 2015 Charlotte Elizabeth Diana. I wonder what Liz & Phil think of that? The old girl has to approve the name, doesn't she, as a matter of protocol? She must have bit her lip and rubber-stamped it (the name that is, not her lip). No, she doesn't. Some Palace wonk was on the telly the other day and said that HM is consulted and may offer an opinion, just the same as what happens in most families. But ultimately the choice is down to the parents. Why not Charlotte Diana Elizabeth? Probably intra-family politics. It just flows better. Names ending in 'a' tend to collide with names beginning with a vowel. I'm a bit disappointed, but not surprised, that they have gone for a boring obvious choice, as with George. There have been princesses and queens consort called Charlotte, and as the feminine version of Charles it's a compliment to granddad - and indirectly to grandma Carole, as her name is also a form of Charles. Caroline would have ticked all the same boxes. It would have been nice if they'd picked something different. It didn't have to be anything outrageous. There are lots of lovely classic names with no real BRF precedent like Julia, Antonia, Marianne etc. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Creep 7,069 Posted May 6, 2015 Carole a form of 'Charles' Ok Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,060 Posted May 6, 2015 Carole a form of 'Charles' Ok It derives from the Latinised form, Carolus. Carol is the male version, as with the late King Carol of Romania and the film director Carol Reed. CHARLES GENDER: Masculine USAGE: English, French Meaning & HistoryFrom the Germanic name Karl, which was derived from a Germanic word meaning "man". However, an alternative theory states that it is derived from the common Germanic element hari meaning "army, warrior".The popularity of the name in continental Europe was due to the fame of Charles the Great (742-814), commonly known as Charlemagne, a king of the Franks who came to rule over most of Europe. It was subsequently borne by several Holy Roman Emperors, as well as kings of France, Spain, Portugal, Sweden and Hungary. The name did not become common in Britain until the 17th century when it was carried by the Stuart king Charles I. It had been introduced into the Stuart royal family by Mary Queen of Scots, who had been raised in France. VARIANT: Carol (English) DIMINUTIVES: Charley, Charlie, Chas, Chaz, Chip, Chuck (English), Charlot (French) FEMININE FORMS: Charla, Charlene, Charlotte, Charleen, Sharla, Sharleen, Sharlene (English), Carole, Charline, Charlotte (French) OTHER LANGUAGES: Carolus, Karl (Ancient Germanic), Carles, Carlos (Catalan), Karlo (Croatian), Karel (Czech), Carl, Karl (Danish), Karel (Dutch), Kaarle, Kaarlo, Karl, Kalle (Finnish), Carl, Karl (German), Kale (Hawaiian), Károly, Karcsi (Hungarian), Séarlas (Irish), Carlo (Italian), Sjarel (Limburgish), Karolis (Lithuanian), Carl, Karl (Norwegian), Karol (Polish), Carlos, Carlinhos, Carlito, Carlitos (Portuguese), Carol (Romanian), Karol (Slovak), Karel, Karol (Slovene), Carlos, Carlito, Carlitos (Spanish), Carl, Karl, Kalle (Swedish), Siarl (Welsh) http://www.behindthename.com/name/charles 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handrejka 1,903 Posted May 6, 2015 Carole a form of 'Charles' Ok It derives from the Latinised form, Carolus. Carol is the male version, as with the late King Carol of Romania and the film director Carol Reed. CHARLES GENDER: Masculine USAGE: English, French Meaning & HistoryFrom the Germanic name Karl, which was derived from a Germanic word meaning "man". However, an alternative theory states that it is derived from the common Germanic element hari meaning "army, warrior".The popularity of the name in continental Europe was due to the fame of Charles the Great (742-814), commonly known as Charlemagne, a king of the Franks who came to rule over most of Europe. It was subsequently borne by several Holy Roman Emperors, as well as kings of France, Spain, Portugal, Sweden and Hungary. The name did not become common in Britain until the 17th century when it was carried by the Stuart king Charles I. It had been introduced into the Stuart royal family by Mary Queen of Scots, who had been raised in France. VARIANT: Carol (English) DIMINUTIVES: Charley, Charlie, Chas, Chaz, Chip, Chuck (English), Charlot (French) FEMININE FORMS: Charla, Charlene, Charlotte, Charleen, Sharla, Sharleen, Sharlene (English), Carole, Charline, Charlotte (French) OTHER LANGUAGES: Carolus, Karl (Ancient Germanic), Carles, Carlos (Catalan), Karlo (Croatian), Karel (Czech), Carl, Karl (Danish), Karel (Dutch), Kaarle, Kaarlo, Karl, Kalle (Finnish), Carl, Karl (German), Kale (Hawaiian), Károly, Karcsi (Hungarian), Séarlas (Irish), Carlo (Italian), Sjarel (Limburgish), Karolis (Lithuanian), Carl, Karl (Norwegian), Karol (Polish), Carlos, Carlinhos, Carlito, Carlitos (Portuguese), Carol (Romanian), Karol (Slovak), Karel, Karol (Slovene), Carlos, Carlito, Carlitos (Spanish), Carl, Karl, Kalle (Swedish), Siarl (Welsh) http://www.behindthename.com/name/Charles It's also how Charles Dodgson came to choose the nom de plume of Lewis Carroll. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 20,914 Posted May 7, 2015 Japanese zoo has to apologise for naming newborn chimp Charlotte. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-3071700/Japan-zoo-apologizes-naming-newborn-monkey-Charlotte.html I'm upset. I'm angry. Why were we not given an opportunity to guess the date, time, weight etc of this chimp? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magere Hein 1,399 Posted May 7, 2015 Japanese zoo has to apologise for naming newborn chimp macaque Charlotte. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-3071700/Japan-zoo-apologizes-naming-newborn-monkey-Charlotte.html Why? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 20,914 Posted January 16, 2016 Andy Murray and missus about to have a baby, expected mid-February. Is it time again for guess the date/name/weight/gender? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mad Hatter 1,092 Posted January 16, 2016 The 19th of February and his name will be Earl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 20,914 Posted January 16, 2016 Thanks MK. Thinking if there's enough interest I'll keep a note. Remember if you pick the same date, the nearest time of birth gets it (no time specified means you think one minute past midnight on the date specified). No editing your posts, though updates on a fresh post and entries accepted until noon on 31 January. If born before then only entries submitted prior to birth are in the running. She's knocked up, it is time to start the game! Edit: I'll say it's a girl, born 21 February 2016 at 19:30 hours GMT, weighing 7lbs 9 oz, to be named Alexandra Mhairi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Creep 7,069 Posted January 16, 2016 Andy Murray knows a thing or two about early exits. February 2, Phil (as in Puxatawny). SirC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RadGuy 1,614 Posted January 16, 2016 14th February, named Valentine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 20,914 Posted January 24, 2016 Entries so far for the Murray baby: Morbidkid - 19 Feb, Male, Earl YoungWillz - 21 Feb (19:30), Female, 7lbs 9oz, Alexandra Mhairi Sir C - 2 Feb, Male, Phil Radguy - 14 Feb, Valentine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,390 Posted January 24, 2016 I want to say "next weekend" to see how much it screws up the Australian Open if Murray is still in it. However, first time babies tend to be late arrivals these days, so I'll go with March 1st. Oh, and that it'll be a girl. Jane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
En Passant 3,732 Posted January 24, 2016 28th Feb. Male Robert Christopher Nesbitt Murray. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Book 3,531 Posted January 24, 2016 25.02.2016 Steffi Martina A girl btw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 20,914 Posted January 24, 2016 Cheers, all logged. Noon 31 January closing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 20,914 Posted January 31, 2016 Given the news this morning, I'll extend the deadline for entries until 4pm today for any further guesses on the Murray baby. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,507 Posted January 31, 2016 I think Novak is a nice name..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 20,914 Posted January 31, 2016 I think Novak is a nice name..... It's a winner, certainly, but will it be in this game? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 20,914 Posted January 31, 2016 Closed. Entries for the Murray baby are as follows: Sir C - 2 Feb, Male, Phil Radguy - 14 Feb, Valentine Morbidkid - 19 Feb, Male, Earl YoungWillz - 21 Feb (19:30), Female, 7lbs 9oz, Alexandra Mhairi Book - 25 Feb, Female, Steffi Martina En Passant - 28 Feb, Male, Robert Christopher Nesbitt msc - 1 March Bibliogryphon - Novak. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
time 8,571 Posted February 9, 2016 It's a girl Born Sunday night(?) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Creep 7,069 Posted February 9, 2016 It's a girl Born Sunday night(?) My 'early exits' remark stands true to form. Five days off, that's gotta count for sumptin. SC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
En Passant 3,732 Posted February 9, 2016 Date: fail Sex: fail Name: Still in with a shout... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 20,914 Posted February 9, 2016 Yep, awaiting further details but Sir C is closest on date. Both myself and Book were correct on gender. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites