Political Discussions And Ranting Thread

[Deathray 2,944]

Michael Gove going with the Beach Boys approach to a select committee hearing asking him what happens after the 1st November.

 

 

 

[YoungWillz 21,457]

Bawjaws about to speak in Wakefield.

 

Backed, by the looks of it, by all the remaining police officers in Wakefield.

 

Crime wave due! (Which Bawjaws will blame on Sadiq Khan, no doubt).

 

 

[Lord Fellatio Nelson 6,241]

1 hour ago, Kinnock said:

Michael Gove going with the Beach Boys approach to a select committee hearing asking him what happens after the 1st November.

 

 

 

A fitting song for all those remainers, right Kinnock?

You ginger cunt.

 

I may not always love you
But long as there are stars ( on the Euro flag) above you
You never need to doubt it
I'll make you so sure about it
God only knows what I'd be without you

If you should ever leave me
Though life would still go on, believe me
The world could show nothing to me
So what good would living do me
God only knows what I'd be without you

God only knows what I'd be without you
If you should ever leave me
Though life would still go on, believe me
The world could show nothing to me
So what good would living do me
God only knows what I'd be without you

 

etc, etc......

[Deathray 2,944]

6 minutes ago, Lord Fellatio Nelson said:

A fitting song for all those remainers, right Kinnock?

You ginger cunt.

 

I may not always love you
 But long as there are stars above you
 You never need to doubt it
I'll make you so sure about it
God only knows what I'd be without you (prime minister)

If you should ever leave me
Though life would still go on, believe me
 The world could show nothing to me
So what good would living do me
God only knows what I'd be without you (prime ministers)

God only knows what I'd be without you
If you should ever leave me
 Though life would still go on, believe me
 The world could show nothing to me
So what good would living do me
God only knows what I'd be without you (prime minister)

  

etc, etc......

 

Amended it's much more apt for Gove!

[Redrumours 864]

2 hours ago, Kinnock said:

 

Amended it's much more apt for Gove!

With his brother now gone BoJo's, lost his Brojo.

[YoungWillz 21,457]

Evening Standard, Evening Standard!

 

"Asked by the paper (in 2013) if he and Jo were similar to David and Ed, Boris said: "We don't do things that way, that's a very leftwing thing.

 

"Only a socialist could do that to his brother, only a socialist could regard familial ties as being so trivial as to shaft his own brother.

 

"I mean, unbelievable. Only lefties can think like that ... they see people as discrete agents devoid of ties to society or to each other, and that's how Stalin could murder 20 million people."

[YoungWillz 21,457]

On ‎10‎/‎06‎/‎2017 at 23:23, msc said:

Also:

 

 

[YoungWillz 21,457]

Thought it would be invaluable to post the above lest we forget how well Bawjaws did as Mayor, which he regards as some sort of heroic period of championship for London.

 

Seriously, was leafing through the comments on the 2017 election lead up and result.

 

Spade Cooley correctly identified that Tezza would be gone by 2020 at the latest. Sean also seemed to think that she'd hang on for a couple of years and possibly be replaced by Bawjaws. I predicted a hung parliament about 4 weeks out from the election of 2017 when the polls were heavily in favour of the Conservatives. Can't remember but someone also mentioned defections from the Tories, but they thought they'd be to UKIP...ah, salad days. Joey Russ suggested Javier Perez de Cuellar might die around election time...the Peruvian lives.

 

Sadly many were wrong, thinking Tezza could maybe manage a few months at most, and suggesting a possible Autumn election. Looks like charon wanted an October election during his lifetime...he might just get his way!

[Deathray 2,944]

The opposition have confirmed that the government will not get support for it's general election motion on Monday.

 

This means Boris's only way out is to call a vote of no confidence in himself. 

[YoungWillz 21,457]

31 minutes ago, Kinnock said:

The opposition have confirmed that the government will not get support for it's general election motion on Monday.

 

This means Boris's only way out is to call a vote of no confidence in himself. 

[YoungWillz 21,457]

Amber Rudd resigns from the Cabinet and gives up the Tory whip.

 

Edit: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/breaking-amber-rudd-resigns-cabinet-19850453

[Thatcher 2,684]

Some polls out this today, with fieldwork done from the 4th-6th which is after the legislation went through the House of Commons, after the purge of Tory MPs and after the opposition parties ran scared from a general election. 

 

YouGov:

Conservative - 35% (-)

Labour - 21% (-4%)

Lib Dem - 19% (+3%)

Brexit Party - 12% (+1%)

 

Opinium:

Conservative - 35% (+3%)

Labour - 25% (-1%)

Lib Dem - 17% (+2%)

Brexit Party - 13% (-3%)

 

Panelbase:
Conservative - 31% (+10%)
Labour - 28% (-3%)

Lib Dem - 19% (+6%)
Brexit Party - 15% (-4%)

Greens - 2% (-3%)

 

Regardless of how much of a catastrophe this week has been for Boris, the public appears to like his hardened Brexit stance. Incredible given all what's gone on really, but I think when the inevitable election comes it will be a shocker - even more so if as some newspapers are reporting the Tories and Brexit Party are touching base about an electoral pact. 

 

If the Government is really falling apart and it's all such a damned disgrace as they claim, then instead of moaning about it why doesn't Corbyn & Co. do something about it and vote for an election? 

[Paul Bearer 6,204]

36 minutes ago, Thatcher said:

 

 

If the Government is really falling apart and it's all such a damned disgrace as they claim, then instead of moaning about it why doesn't Corbyn & Co. do something about it and vote for an election? 

I've said it before and I'll say it again. It's politics, and it's the dirtiest game in the world. 

[Deathray 2,944]

10 hours ago, Thatcher said:

Some polls out this today, with fieldwork done from the 4th-6th which is after the legislation went through the House of Commons, after the purge of Tory MPs and after the opposition parties ran scared from a general election. 

 

YouGov:

Conservative - 35% (-)

Labour - 21% (-4%)

Lib Dem - 19% (+3%)

Brexit Party - 12% (+1%)

 

Opinium:

Conservative - 35% (+3%)

Labour - 25% (-1%)

Lib Dem - 17% (+2%)

Brexit Party - 13% (-3%)

 

Panelbase:
Conservative - 31% (+10%)
Labour - 28% (-3%)

Lib Dem - 19% (+6%)
Brexit Party - 15% (-4%)

Greens - 2% (-3%)

 

Regardless of how much of a catastrophe this week has been for Boris, the public appears to like his hardened Brexit stance. Incredible given all what's gone on really, but I think when the inevitable election comes it will be a shocker - even more so if as some newspapers are reporting the Tories and Brexit Party are touching base about an electoral pact. 

 

If the Government is really falling apart and it's all such a damned disgrace as they claim, then instead of moaning about it why doesn't Corbyn & Co. do something about it and vote for an election? 

 

Because the sole purpose of that election is to get a no deal Brexit during the campaign.

 

We're having an election. Once Boris has got the extension until the 31st January. 

 

When two cabinet ministers have resigned in as many days you know you're up shit creek as a government. 

[Thatcher 2,684]

11 hours ago, Paul Bearer said:

I've said it before and I'll say it again. It's politics, and it's the dirtiest game in the world. 

 

Indeed. 

 

1 hour ago, Kinnock said:

Because the sole purpose of that election is to get a no deal Brexit during the campaign.

 

We're having an election. Once Boris has got the extension until the 31st January. 

 

When two cabinet ministers have resigned in as many days you know you're up shit creek as a government. 

 

The Government may be up shit creek, but the public and voting intentions don't seem to care. 

[Deathray 2,944]

46 minutes ago, Thatcher said:

 

Indeed. 

 

 

The Government may be up shit creek, but the public and voting intentions don't seem to care. 

 

We're up to 28% to 31% from 25% to 35% in a matter of days. An election campaign will only narrow that gap.

 

And the polls have been wrong so many times.

[En Passant 3,768]

[Toast 16,303]

Is there anyone left in Parliament who isn't either untrustworthy, loathsome or inept? 

(Yes, I know some tick all those boxes.)

[Deathray 2,944]

Just now, Toast said:

Is there anyone left in Parliament who isn't either untrustworthy, loathsome or inept? 

(Yes, I know some tick all those boxes.)

 

No. Should burn the place down and start again. 

[YoungWillz 21,457]

DIVISION!!!!!!!!!

 

(Has Boris won any votes outright?)

[YoungWillz 21,457]

21 minutes ago, YoungWillz said:

DIVISION!!!!!!!!!

 

(Has Boris won any votes outright?)

The answer remains no.

 

Instead of building a deal in Brussels, he's removing the ugly railings on the cliff edge of Brexit.

[Grim Up North 3,776]

This Brexit lark has been great news for the legal profession

 

Presumably now the Government will appeal and by the time the legal process is complete the 5 weeks will be up anyway.

[YoungWillz 21,457]

35 minutes ago, Grim Up North said:

This Brexit lark has been great news for the legal profession

 

Presumably now the Government will appeal and by the time the legal process is complete the 5 weeks will be up anyway.

Maybe the Tories will now ensure that rUK leaves the Union between it and Scotland.

 

I mean, that's what Tories normally do when they dislike rulings of a Court - see EU.

[Grim Up North 3,776]

20 minutes ago, YoungWillz said:

Maybe the Tories will now ensure that rUK leaves the Union between it and Scotland.

 

I think this is something you would like as a Scot.

 

I think we are stronger and better together but sympathise with a lot of the issues of feeling neglected by the south.

 

Unions, whether European or UK, need work and all parties need to feel they are part of the union and that it is delivering on most of what they want from a union.

 

Difficult to achieve but unfortunately one has already failed subject to us freeing ourselves from the strait jacket and the other may well fail once that has happened.

[YoungWillz 21,457]

1 hour ago, Grim Up North said:

 

I think this is something you would like as a Scot.

 

I think we are stronger and better together but sympathise with a lot of the issues of feeling neglected by the south.

 

Unions, whether European or UK, need work and all parties need to feel they are part of the union and that it is delivering on most of what they want from a union.

 

Difficult to achieve but unfortunately one has already failed subject to us freeing ourselves from the strait jacket and the other may well fail once that has happened.

Unfortunately, it isn't just neglect.

 

When folk on Question Time talk of dumping their excess nuclear waste in Scotland, gaining chuckles and cheers....

 

When Scottish Parliament budgets are cut merely on political grounds rather than financial requirement...

 

When politicians take our farmers' EU payments and spend the majority of them in England...

 

When Inheritance Tax revenues paid on a UK wide basis are appropriated for care budgets solely in England...

 

When Scotland cries out for immigration and globalisation, she is ignored because folk down South are becoming more insular and nationalistic....

 

When Bawjaws has made statements that no Scot could or should ever become Prime Minister of the UK....

 

I could go on and on. The Union hasn't worked for Scotland in decades. If Bawjaws does get in at any election, the Union is over.