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Fay Weldon

Gianluca Vialli

Constantine II

Pervez Musharraf

Burt Bacharach

Ryuichi Sakamoto

Harry Belafonte

Rolf Harris

Tina Turner

Ted Kaczynski

Tony Bennett

Bob Barker

Mohamed Al-Fayed

Giorgio Napolitano

Martti Ahtisaari

Bobby Charlton

Rosalynn Carter

Henry Kissinger

Sandra Day O'Connor

Steve Halliwell

Jacques Delors

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On 06/12/2023 at 16:22, Summer in Transylvania said:

:rip: Gianluca Vialli

:rip: Lucile Randon

:rip: Hazel McCallion

:rip: Harry Whittington

:rip: Pervez Musharraf

:rip: Ryuichi Sakamoto

:rip: Andrés García

:rip: Rolf Harris

:rip: Wilhelm Büsing

:rip: Milan Kundera

:rip: Kazimierz Klimczak

:rip: Tony Bennett

:rip: Rodion Amirov

:rip: Bob Barker

:rip: Henry Kissinger

:rip: Norman Lear

:rip: Jacques Delors

17/55.

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I'm fearful my broadband and everything will be cut off from tomorrow (though I was promised 2nd January!). Had to cobble a new list in a hurry today. If subs are needed, I'll do that when I'm back up and running.

 

Accordingly, here's my Nifty Fifty Shadowlist for 2024: 

 

1.    David Attenborough
2.    Stanley Baxter
3.    Alan Bennett
4.    Tony Blackburn
5.    Sepp Blatter
6.    Lyndsey Buckingham
7.    Rob Burrow
8.    Ruth Buzzi
9.    Chubby Checker
10.    Phil Collins
11.    Billy Connolly
12.    Tim Curry
13.    Shannen Doherty
14.    Amy Dowden
15.    Bob Dylan
16.    Frank Field
17.    Roberta Flack
18.    Julie Goodyear
19.    Douglas Hurd
20.    Jonnie Irwin
21.    Tom Jones
22.    Penelope Keith
23.    Denis Law
24.    Richard Lester
25.    James Mackay, Baron Mackay of Clashfern
26.    Imelda Marcos
27.    Liza Minnelli
28.    Nana Mouskouri
29.    Dave Myers (Hairy Biker)
30.    Willie Nelson
31.    Bob Newhart
32.    Linda Nolan
33.    Yoko Ono
34.    Ozzy Osbourne
35.    Richard O'Sullivan
36.    Linda Ronstadt
37.    Salman Rushdie
38.    William Russell
39.    Prunella Scales
40.    Grace Slick
41.    Jimmy Tarbuck
42.    Andy Taylor (Duran Duran)
43.    Norman Tebbit
44.    Dick Van Dyke
45.    James Whale 
46.    John Williams
47.    Bruce Willis
48.    Richard Wilson
49.    Bill Wyman
50.    Michael York

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17 minutes ago, YoungWillz said:

I'm fearful my broadband and everything will be cut off from tomorrow (though I was promised 2nd January!). Had to cobble a new list in a hurry today. If subs are needed, I'll do that when I'm back up and running.

 

Good luck with the move, old chap! Do let us all know you're safe and well on the other side of it all.

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3 minutes ago, msc said:

Good luck with the move, old chap! Do let us all know you're safe and well on the other side of it all.

Might just have been let down with my "man with a van" as well.

 

All is not good here atm.

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Burt Bacharach
Harry Belafonte
Rolf Harris
Tina Turner
Milan Kundera
Tony Bennett
George Alagiah
Bob Barker
Giorgio Napolitano
Bobby Charlton
Rosalynn Carter
Joss Ackland
Henry Kissinger
Norman Lear
Ryan O' Neal
Jacques Delors

 

16/50

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17/50

 

Gianluca Vialli
Pervez Musharraf

Burt Bacharach

Nigel Lawson

Harry Belafonte

Rolf Harris

Ted Kaczynski

Silvio Berlusconi

Winnie Ewing

Tony Bennett
George Alagiah

Bob Barker
Bobby Charlton

Rosalynn Carter
Henry Kissinger

Shane MacGowan

Jacques Delors

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18
Alagiah, George;
Barker, Bob;
Belafonte, Harry
Blythe, Ronald
Charlton, Bobby
Constantine II of Greece
Delors, Jacques
Forrest, Frederic
Hardy, Francoise
Harris, Rolf
MacGowan, Shane
McAlpine, Kenneth
McGarvey, Frank
Musharraf, General Pervez
Parkinson, Michael
Topol, Chaim
Vialli, Gianluca
Weldon, Fay

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Finishing some last lists at the airport before I'm off to Finland until the start of the new year.

 

My 2024 regular shadowlist:

 

1. Jimmy Carter
2. Ethel Kennedy

3. Pope Francis
4. Jim Lovell
5. Dick van Dyke
6. David Attenborough
7. King Albert II of Belgium
8. Noam Chomsky
9. Denis Law
10. Douglas Hurd
11. Dennis Skinner
12. Sam Neill
13. Julie Walters
14. Frank Field
15. Toby Keith
16. Sandy Gall
17. Bruce Willis
18. Tom Baker
19. Franz Beckenbauer
20. Roberta Flack
21. Glynis Johns
22. June Spencer
23. Bob Newhart
24. Cleo Laine
25. Jean Marie Le Pen
26. Sonny Rollins
27. David Graham
28. Eva Marie Saint
29. William Russell
30. Norman Tebbit
31. Alan Greenspan
32. Shannen Doherty
33. Yoko Ono
34. Nigel Starmer-Smith
35. Willie Nelson
36. Stanley Baxter
37. Mel Brooks
38. Joanne Woodward
39. Prunella Scales
40. Eric Idle
41. Thomas Stafford
42. Julie Goodyear
43. Clint Eastwood
44. Rupert Murdoch
45. Esther Rantzen
46. Robert Duvall
47. Buzz Aldrin
48. Gene Hackman
49. Brian Blessed
50. Michael Caine

 

subs
Pete Murray
Robert Wagner
James Whale
Ozzy Osbourne

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Sitting with a 16 on my pool from last year.  Not my best, not my worst. 
 

2024 CryptKeeper Shadow List:

 

  1. Barry Manilow b. 17.06.1943
  2. Ozzy Osbourne b. 03.12.1948
  3. Patricia Routledge b. 17.02.1929
  4. Gene Hackman b. 30.01.1930
  5. William Shatner b. 22.03.1931
  6. Christopher Bournes Rhys-Jones (Princess Sophie father)                  b. 19.06.1931
  7. Tom Baker b. 20.01.1934
  8. Sylvester McCoy  b. 20.08.1943
  9. Bernie Ecclestone b. 28.10.1930
  10. Dame Esther Rantzen                      b. 22.06.1940
  11. Joan Collins b. 23.05.1933
  12. Paul McCartney b. 18.06.1942
  13. Ringo Starr b. 07.07.1940
  14. Jean-Marie Le Pen b. 20.06.1928
  15. Josef Fritzl b. 09.04.1935
  16. Jimmy Carter 39th President          b. 01.10.1924
  17. June Spencer b. 14.06.1919
  18. Buzz Aldrin b. 20.01.1930
  19. David Attenborough b. 08.05.1926
  20. Joe Biden 46th President                b. 20.11.1942
  21. Sepp Blatter b. 10.03.1936
  22. Rob Burrow b. 26.09.1982
  23. Michael Caine b. 14.03.1933
  24. Bill Clinton 42nd President               b. 19.08.1946
  25. Billy Connolly b. 24.11.1942
  26. Clint Eastwood b. 31.05.1930
  27. Frank Field b. 16.07.1942
  28. Pope Francis b. 17.12.1936
  29. Alan Greenspan b. 06.03.1926
  30. Gene Hackman b. 30.01.1930
  31. Tippi Hedren b. 19.01.1930
  32. Geoff Hurst b. 08.12.1941
  33. James Earl Jones b. 17.01.1931
  34. Cleo Laine b. 28.10.1927
  35. Mitch McConnell b. 20.02.1942
  36. Vladimir Putin b. 07.10.1952
  37. Cliff Richard b. 14.10.1940
  38. Prunella Scales b. 22.06.1932
  39. Donald J. Trump 45th President     b. 14.06.1946
  40. Yoko Ono b. 18.02.1933
  41. George Soros b. 12.08.1930
  42. Harvey Weinstein b. 19.03.1952
  43. Robert Wagner b. 10.02.1930
  44. Bob Newhart b. 05.09.1929
  45. Dick Van Dyke b. 13.12.1925
  46. Rupert Murdoch b. 11.03.1931
  47. Imelda Marcos b. 02.07.1929
  48. Mel Brooks b. 28.06.1926
  49. Willie Nelson b. 29.04.1933
  50. Noddy Holder b. 15.06.1946

 

Substitutes:

Don King b. 20.08.1931

Dick Cheney b. 30.01.1941

Dennis Skinner b. 11.02.1932

Angie Dickinson b. 30.09.1931

Bill Cosby b. 12.07.1937

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And my 2nd Dutch shadowlist:

 

1. George Kooymans
2. André Hissink
3. Ellis Brandon
4. Dries van Agt
5. Bas van Toor
6. Frits Bolkestein
7. Ton van Baars
8. Mirjam Bolle Levie
9. Kees Rijvers
10. Rob Bolland
11. Hans van den Broek
12. Bas de Gaay Fortman
13. Jan Reehorst
14. Frits Korthals Altes
15. Johan Visser
16. Rob de Nijs
17. Harry Dikmans
18. Michel van Hulten
19. Wim van Eekelen
20. Tonke Dragt
21. Jan Terlouw
22. Hans Smolders
23. Erwin Nypels
24. André Mensert Spaanderman
25. Herman Finkers
26. Pol de Beer
27. Hans Wiegel
28. Bram Stemerdink
29. Laurens Jan Brinkhorst
30. Jan Pronk
31. Koningin Beatrix
32. Hans van Manen
33. Prinses Irene der Nederlanden
34. Pieter van Vollenhoven
35. Aad van Toor
36. Maarten van Rossem
37. Lee Towers
38. Ankie Broekers-Knol
39. Foppe de Haan
40. Leo Beenhakker
41. Ernst Daniël Smid
42. Gerard Cox
43. Jan Janssen
44. Joost Prinsen
45. Theo Hiddema
46. Geert Wilders
47. Ivo Opstelten
48. Gerard Sanderink
49. Elise Boot
50. Bertus Maris

 

subs:
Hennie Huisman
Han ten Broeke
Ton Elias

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Piss it. For the 2nd time in 7 years, the official DL beat me. Wasn't even close: 19-12.

In Memoriam: G Vialli, N Lawson, H Belafonte, R Harris, T Turner, T Bennett, G Alagiah, M Parkinson, M Al-Fayed, B Charlton, R Carter, S MacGowan

 

Maybe my 2024 Bag of Buggered Bigshots will fare better. Maybe it won't. Who knows? Who the fuck cares?

 

1) Jimmy Carter

2) Frank Field

3) Esther Rantzen

4) Rob Burrow

5) Noam Chomsky

6) Jonnie Irwin

7) Linda Nolan

8) Nigel Starmer-Smith

9) Joanne Woodward

10) James Whale

11) Dennis Skinner

12) Roberta Flack

13) Frank Caprio

14) Jean-Marie le Pen

15) Yoko Ono

16) Shannen Doherty

17) Bruce Willis

18) Glynis Johns

19) Denis Law

20) Katherine Jackson

21) Robert Wagner

22) Norman Tebbit

23) Pete Murray

24) Imelda Marcos

25) Liza Minnelli

26) Julie Walters

27) Ray Reardon

28) Dave Myers

29) Patrick Murray

30) Douglas Hurd

31) Mel Brooks

32) Malcolm Hebden

33) Vanessa Redgrave

34) Rupert Murdoch

35) Pope Francis

36) Mitch McConnell

37) James Earl Jones

38) Sophia Loren

39) Patricia Routledge

40) Julie Goodyear

41) Eileen Derbyshire

42) Alan Bennett

43) Bill Wyman

44) Prunella Scales

45) David Attenborough

46) Vladimir Putin

47) Elsie Kelly

48) Cissy Houston

49) George Lazenby

50) Dick van Dyke

 

@John Key, please accept this as an entry into your Shadow DL competition. Cheers.

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2 minutes ago, TQR said:

 

 

@John Key, please accept this as an entry into your Shadow DL competition. Cheers.

I haven't started compiling my masterlist yet, just paste it into the other thread so when I process all the other ones I don't have to come here too! 

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My 2024 list. Good luck everyone.

  1. Jimmy Carter (100) U.S. President
  2. Dick Van Dyke (99) Comedian
  3. Mel Brooks (98) Comedian
  4. Clint Eastwood (94) Actor
  5. Buzz Aldrin (94) Astronaut
  6. Joanne Woodward (94) Actress
  7. David Attenborough (98) Journalist
  8. Alan Greenspan (98) Fed Chair
  9. Robert Wagner (94) Actor
  10. George Mitchell (91) U.S. Senator
  11. Russell M. Nelson (100) LDS President
  12. Shannen Doherty (53) Actress
  13. Salman (89) King of Saudi Arabia
  14. Warren Buffett (94) Billionaire
  15. Toby Keith (63) Country Singer
  16. Ethel Kennedy (96) Kennedy Widow
  17. Bob Newhart (95) Comedian
  18. Louis Farrakhan (91) Cult Leader
  19. Jean-Marie Le Pen (97) French Politician
  20. Mahmoud Abbas (89) Palestinian Pres.
  21. Shirley MacLaine (90) Actress
  22. Dan Rather (93) News Anchor
  23. George Soros (94) Billionaire
  24. Willie Nelson (91) Country Musician
  25. Eva Marie Saint (100) Actress
  26. Don King (93) Boxing Promoter
  27. Yoko Ono (91) John Lennon's Widow
  28. Tom Brokaw (84) NBC News Anchor
  29. Mahathir Mohamad (99) Malaysian PM
  30. Michael Caine (91) Actor
  31. Brigitte Bardot (90) Actress
  32. Sophia Loren (90) Actress
  33. Imelda Marcos (95) Shoe Collector
  34. Noam Chomsky (96) Philosopher
  35. Clive Davis (92) Record Executive
  36. Ted Turner (86) CNN Founder
  37. Yahya Sinwar (62) Hamas Leader
  38. Vanessa Redgrave (87) Actress
  39. Bruce Willis (69) Die Hard
  40. Katherine Jackson (94) Matriarch
  41. Sonny Rollins (94) Saxophonist
  42. Roberta Flack (87) Singer
  43. James Earl Jones (93) Voice Actor
  44. Rupert Murdoch (93) Media Tycoon
  45. Quincy Jones (91) Record Producer
  46. Sepp Blatter (88) FIFA President
  47. Jack Nicholson (87) Actor
  48. Raúl Castro (93) Cuban Dictator
  49. Jim Lovell (96) Astronaut
  50. Pope Francis (88) Current Pope
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Well, DeathList have beat me for the first time with 19/50 compared to my 17/50. 

Onwards...

1) David Graham
2) Glynis Johns
3) William Russell
4) Jimmy Carter
5) Dame Esther Rantzen
6) Dame Julie Walters
7) Linda Nolan
8) James Whale
9) Prince Edward, Duke of Kent
10) Thomas P. Stafford
11) Frank Field
12) Joanne Woodward
13) Dennis Skinner
14) Yoko Ono
15) James D. Watson
16) Nigel Starmer-Smith
17) Noam Chomsky
18) Shannen Doherty
19) Tom Baker
20) Sonny Rollins
21) Jean-Marie Le Pen
22) Norman Tebbit
23) Sandy Gall
24) Lauren Harries
25) Dame Vanessa Redgrave
26) Stanley Baxter
27) Roberta Flack
28) June Spencer
29) Dame Cleo Laine
30) Brigitte Bardot
31) Janey Godley
32) Prunella Scales
33) Sir Michael Caine
34) Stuart Hall
35) Denis Law
36) Josip Manolić
37) Katherine Jackson
38) Norman Jewison
39) Tim Curry
40) Dame Eleanor Laing 
41) Sidney Cooke
42) Philippe de Gaulle
43) Gudrun Ure
44) Mel Brooks
45) Eddie Stobart
46) Douglas Hurd
47) Ron Jeremy
48) Arthur Scargill
49) Dame Patricia Routledge
50) Jonnie Irwin

Edit: Should probably put a sub on, so let's say Kim Weston.

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On 28/12/2023 at 19:32, CryptKeeper said:

Sitting with a 16 on my pool from last year.  Not my best, not my worst. 
 

2024 CryptKeeper Shadow List:

 

  1. Barry Manilow b. 17.06.1943
  2. Ozzy Osbourne b. 03.12.1948
  3. Patricia Routledge b. 17.02.1929
  4. Gene Hackman b. 30.01.1930
  5. William Shatner b. 22.03.1931
  6. Christopher Bournes Rhys-Jones (Princess Sophie father)                  b. 19.06.1931
  7. Tom Baker b. 20.01.1934
  8. Sylvester McCoy  b. 20.08.1943
  9. Bernie Ecclestone b. 28.10.1930
  10. Dame Esther Rantzen                      b. 22.06.1940
  11. Joan Collins b. 23.05.1933
  12. Paul McCartney b. 18.06.1942
  13. Ringo Starr b. 07.07.1940
  14. Jean-Marie Le Pen b. 20.06.1928
  15. Josef Fritzl b. 09.04.1935
  16. Jimmy Carter 39th President          b. 01.10.1924
  17. June Spencer b. 14.06.1919
  18. Buzz Aldrin b. 20.01.1930
  19. David Attenborough b. 08.05.1926
  20. Joe Biden 46th President                b. 20.11.1942
  21. Sepp Blatter b. 10.03.1936
  22. Rob Burrow b. 26.09.1982
  23. Michael Caine b. 14.03.1933
  24. Bill Clinton 42nd President               b. 19.08.1946
  25. Billy Connolly b. 24.11.1942
  26. Clint Eastwood b. 31.05.1930
  27. Frank Field b. 16.07.1942
  28. Pope Francis b. 17.12.1936
  29. Alan Greenspan b. 06.03.1926
  30. Gene Hackman b. 30.01.1930
  31. Tippi Hedren b. 19.01.1930
  32. Geoff Hurst b. 08.12.1941
  33. James Earl Jones b. 17.01.1931
  34. Cleo Laine b. 28.10.1927
  35. Mitch McConnell b. 20.02.1942
  36. Vladimir Putin b. 07.10.1952
  37. Cliff Richard b. 14.10.1940
  38. Prunella Scales b. 22.06.1932
  39. Donald J. Trump 45th President     b. 14.06.1946
  40. Yoko Ono b. 18.02.1933
  41. George Soros b. 12.08.1930
  42. Harvey Weinstein b. 19.03.1952
  43. Robert Wagner b. 10.02.1930
  44. Bob Newhart b. 05.09.1929
  45. Dick Van Dyke b. 13.12.1925
  46. Rupert Murdoch b. 11.03.1931
  47. Imelda Marcos b. 02.07.1929
  48. Mel Brooks b. 28.06.1926
  49. Willie Nelson b. 29.04.1933
  50. Noddy Holder b. 15.06.1946

 

Substitutes:

Don King b. 20.08.1931

Dick Cheney b. 30.01.1941

Dennis Skinner b. 11.02.1932

Angie Dickinson b. 30.09.1931

Bill Cosby b. 12.07.1937

 

You have Gene Hackman twice on your list (4 and 30).

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Thank you for pulling me up on that, this is why I usually alphabetise them.  @Grimgrass

  1. Barry Manilow b. 17.06.1943
  2. Ozzy Osbourne b. 03.12.1948
  3. Patricia Routledge b. 17.02.1929
  4. Gene Hackman b. 30.01.1930
  5. William Shatner b. 22.03.1931
  6. Christopher Bournes Rhys-Jones (Princess Sophie father)                  b. 19.06.1931
  7. Tom Baker b. 20.01.1934
  8. Sylvester McCoy  b. 20.08.1943
  9. Bernie Ecclestone b. 28.10.1930
  10. Dame Esther Rantzen                      b. 22.06.1940
  11. Joan Collins b. 23.05.1933
  12. Paul McCartney b. 18.06.1942
  13. Ringo Starr b. 07.07.1940
  14. Jean-Marie Le Pen b. 20.06.1928
  15. Josef Fritzl b. 09.04.1935
  16. Jimmy Carter 39th President          b. 01.10.1924
  17. June Spencer b. 14.06.1919
  18. Buzz Aldrin b. 20.01.1930
  19. David Attenborough b. 08.05.1926
  20. Joe Biden 46th President                b. 20.11.1942
  21. Sepp Blatter b. 10.03.1936
  22. Rob Burrow b. 26.09.1982
  23. Michael Caine b. 14.03.1933
  24. Bill Clinton 42nd President               b. 19.08.1946
  25. Billy Connolly b. 24.11.1942
  26. Clint Eastwood b. 31.05.1930
  27. Frank Field b. 16.07.1942
  28. Pope Francis b. 17.12.1936
  29. Alan Greenspan b. 06.03.1926
  30. Michael Flatley b. 16.07.1958
  31. Tippi Hedren b. 19.01.1930
  32. Geoff Hurst b. 08.12.1941
  33. James Earl Jones b. 17.01.1931
  34. Cleo Laine b. 28.10.1927
  35. Mitch McConnell b. 20.02.1942
  36. Vladimir Putin b. 07.10.1952
  37. Cliff Richard b. 14.10.1940
  38. Prunella Scales b. 22.06.1932
  39. Donald J. Trump 45th President     b. 14.06.1946
  40. Yoko Ono b. 18.02.1933
  41. George Soros b. 12.08.1930
  42. Harvey Weinstein b. 19.03.1952
  43. Robert Wagner b. 10.02.1930
  44. Bob Newhart b. 05.09.1929
  45. Dick Van Dyke b. 13.12.1925
  46. Rupert Murdoch b. 11.03.1931
  47. Imelda Marcos b. 02.07.1929
  48. Mel Brooks b. 28.06.1926
  49. Willie Nelson b. 29.04.1933
  50. Noddy Holder b. 15.06.1946

 

Substitutes:

Don King b. 20.08.1931

Dick Cheney b. 30.01.1941

Dennis Skinner b. 11.02.1932

Angie Dickinson b. 30.09.1931

Bill Cosby b. 12.07.1937

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What are some thoughts about my initial 2024 shadowlist? How many hits can I expect? Any names that should be on which aren't? Any wasted positions?

 

1. Jimmy Carter

2. Vanessa Redgrave

3. Frank Field

4. Stanley Baxter

5. Glynis Johns

6. Jim Lovell

7. Françoise Hardy

8. Ethel Kennedy

9. Esther Rantzen

10. Cleo Laine

11. Bob Newhart

12. Joanne Woodward

13. Noam Chomsky

14. James Watson

15. Jean-Marie Le Pen

16. Nigel Starmer-Smith

17. Franz Beckenbauer

18. Richard Wilson

19. Joan Plowright

20. Yoko Ono

21. Jonnie Irwin

22. James Whale

23. George Eastham

24. Eva Marie Saint

25. David Graham

26. Shannen Doherty

27. Linda Nolan

28. Bruce Willis

29. Vera Miles

30. Jean Marsh

31. Denis Law

32. Dennis Skinner

33. Bernadette Chirac

34. Sandy Gall

35. Joe Don Baker

36. Pope Francis

37. Joseph Estrada

38. Alberto Fujimori

39. George Lazenby

40. Shirley Eaton

41. Dick Cheney

42. Michael York

43. Michael Schumacher

44. Roberta Flack

45. Quincy Jones

46. Marianne Faithfull

47. Val Kilmer

48. Mel Brooks

49. John Astin

50. Sophia Loren

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Time to reveal my 2024 list.

(also pinging @msc- this'll contribute to the Crowdsourced List)

 

1. Jimmy Carter (100, 39th President, 4)

2. June Spencer (105, Archers' Peggy Woolley, 5)

3. Glynis Johns (101, Actress, 8)

4. David Graham (99, Thunderbird, NEW)

5. William Russell (100, Ian Chesterton, NEW)

6. Alan Greenspan (98, Economist, 20)

7. Mel Brooks (98, Comedy director, 11)

8. Joanne Woodward (94, Acress, 14)

9. Shannen Doherty (53, Brenda Walsh, NEW)

10. Esther Rantzen (84, TV presenter, NEW)

11. Eva Marie Saint (100, Actress, 12)

12. June Lockhart (99, Actress, 13)

13. Noam Chomsky (96, Responsible Intellectual, 17)

14. Gene Shalit (98, Critic, 16)

15. Stanley Baxter (98, Comedian, 27)

16. David Attenborough (98, Nature's Narrator, 29)

17. Roberta Flack (87, Singer, 6)

18. Dick Van Dyke (99, Actor, 23)

19. James Whale (73, Broadcaster, 10)

20. Bob Newhart (95, Papa Elf, -)

21. James Watson (96, Scientific racist, 32)

22. Cleo Laine (97, Jazz Singer, NEW)

23. Tom Lehrer (96, Musical comedian/Jello shot inventor, 34)

24. Yoko Ono (91, Beatles Destroyer, 48)

25. Linda Nolan (65, Nolan Sister, -)

26. Jean-Marie Le Pen (96, French Bigot, 19)

27. Ethel Kennedy (96, RFK's Widow, 28)

28. Bob Cousy (96, Basketball legend, NEW)

29. Toby Keith (63, Solo Cup enthusiast, NEW)

30. Jim Lovell (96, Apollo 8/13 astronaut, NEW)

31. Norman Tebbit (93, Thatcherite, 35)

32. Ted Turner (86, Captain Planet, 42)

33. Willie Mays (93, Say Hey Kid, -)

34. Bruce Willis (69, Yippee-Ki-Yay MF, NEW)

35. Gene Hackman (94, Actor, 41)

36. James Earl Jones (93, Vader/Mufasa, 38)

37. Franz Beckenbauer (79, Footballer, NEW)

38. George Soros (94, Alt-Right's Antichrist, 45)

39. Brigitte Bardot (90, Sex Symbol, NEW)

40. Raul Castro (93, Fidel's Brother/Successor, -)

41. Rupert Murdoch (93, News Exec, -)

42. Sophia Loren (90, Actress, NEW)

43. Ron Jeremy (71, Sex Pest, NEW)

44. Pope Francis (88, The Pope, NEW)

45. Albert II of Belgium (90, Ex-King, NEW)

46. Clint Eastwood (94, Dirty Harry, -)

47. Pat Boone (90, Singer, NEW)

48. Mahmoud Abbas (89, Palestinian Leader, NEW)

49. Tom Baker (90, Fourth Doctor, NEW)

50. Willie Nelson (91, Country Singer, -)

 

Subs:

Cissy Houston (91, Whitney's Mom)

Buzz Aldrin (94, Moonwalker)

Dabney Coleman (92, 9 to 5 Boss)

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My 2024 list shadow list (first time making one so dont be too harsh):

 

1. Jimmy Carter
2. Nigel Starmer-Smith
3. Mel Brooks 
4. Ethel Kennedy
5. Michael Cain
6. Joanne Woodward
7. Dick van Dyke
8. Dennis Skinner
9. Eileen Derbyshire
10. David Attenborough
11. John Wakeham
12. Robert Wagner
13. Noam Chomsky
14. Dick Cheney
15. David Attenborough
16. Sandy Gall
17. Pat Buchanan
18. Norman Tebbit
19. Alan Greenspan
20. Stanley Baxter
21. Rupert Murdoch
22. Willie Nelson
23. Petula Clark
24. Prince Edward, Duke of Kent
25. Yoko Ono
26. Bob Newhart
27. Margie Needham
28. Desmond Morris
29. Linda Nolan
30. Tim Curry
31. Jean-Marie Le Pen
32. Cleo Laine
33. Alex Ferguson
34. Buzz Aldrin
35. Warren Buffett
36. Katherine Jackson
37. George Soros
38. James Baker
39. Glynis Johns
40. Ray Anthony
41. Janis Page
42. Imelda Marcos
43. Iris Apfel
44. Agnes Keleti
45. Bruce Willis
46. Ozzy Osbourne
47. Pete Best
48. Leon Lamar
49. June Spencer
50. Piers Corbyn
 

Subs:

1. Jeremy Clarkson
2. Kenneth Clarke
3. Joe Lieberman
4. Juan Carlos I
5. Klaus Schwab

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Here is my shadow list for 2024

 

1. Maria Branyas

2. Fauja Singh

3. June Spencer

4. Joe Caroff

5. Lou Conter

6. Bud Anderson

7. Gerald Holton

8. Yang Chen-Ning

9. Jean Malaurie

10. David H. Murdock

11. Vic Seixas

12. William H. Webster

13. Lee Adams

14. Russell M. Nelson

15. Roy Haynes

16. Jirō Ono

17. Alexander Butterfield

18. Lou Donaldson

19. Arthur Cohn

20. Martial Solal

21. Bill Crow

22. Byron Janis

23. Elias James Corey

24. Ray Marshall

25. Frank Gehry

26. X. J. Kennedy

27. Jerry Hardin

28. Selim Hoss

29. Ion Iliescu

30. Thomas Stafford

31. Johan Galtung

32. Jack McKeon

33. Armin Mueller-Stahl

34. Tu Youyou

35. Dominic Chianese

36. Raúl Castro

37. Malachy McCourt

38. Isadore Sharp

39. Jean-Paul Rappeneau

40. Dudley R. Herschbach

41. Ned Jarrett

42. Jacques Roubard 

43. Bob Pettit

44. Jack Hill

45. Dickie Bird

46. Parnelli Jones

47. Michael Frayn

48. Hubie Brown

49. Jane Elliott

50. Allen J. Bard

 

Subs are:

1. Paul Ignatius

2. J. William Middendorf

3. Don Murray

4. Bernie Ecclestone

5. Paul R. Ehrlich

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4 minutes ago, John "요한" Sulu said:

Here is my shadow list for 2024

 

1. Maria Branyas

2. Fauja Singh

3. June Spencer

4. Joe Caroff

5. Lou Conter

6. Bud Anderson

7. Gerald Holton

8. Yang Chen-Ning

9. Jean Malaurie

10. David H. Murdock

11. Vic Seixas

12. William H. Webster

13. Lee Adams

14. Russell M. Nelson

15. Roy Haynes

16. Jirō Ono

17. Shecky Greene

18. Lou Donaldson

19. Arthur Cohn

20. Martial Solal

21. Estelle Parsons

22. Byron Janis

23. Elias James Corey

24. Ray Marshall

25. Frank Gehry

26. X. J. Kennedy

27. Jerry Hardin

28. Selim Hoss

29. Ion Iliescu

30. Thomas Stafford

31. Johan Galtung

32. Jack McKeon

33. Armin Mueller-Stahl

34. Tu Youyou

35. Dominic Chianese

36. Raúl Castro

37. Malachy McCourt

38. Isadore Sharp

39. Jean-Paul Rappeneau

40. Dudley R. Herschbach

41. Ned Jarrett

42. Jacques Roubard 

43. Bob Pettit

44. Jack Hill

45. Dickie Bird

46. Parnelli Jones

47. Michael Frayn

48. Hubie Brown

49. Jane Elliott

50. Allen J. Bard

 

Subs are:

1. Paul Ignatius

2. J. William Middendorf

3. Don Murray

4. Bernie Ecclestone

5. Paul R. Ehrlich


Unbelievable.

You've been a member here for 13 months now and you still don't understand what a shadow list is.

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11 hours ago, The Daredevil said:

What are some thoughts about my initial 2024 shadowlist? How many hits can I expect? Any names that should be on which aren't? Any wasted positions?

 

1. Jimmy Carter

2. Vanessa Redgrave

3. Frank Field

4. Stanley Baxter

5. Glynis Johns

6. Jim Lovell

7. Françoise Hardy

8. Ethel Kennedy

9. Esther Rantzen

10. Cleo Laine

11. Bob Newhart

12. Joanne Woodward

13. Noam Chomsky

14. James Watson

15. Jean-Marie Le Pen

16. Nigel Starmer-Smith

17. Franz Beckenbauer

18. Richard Wilson

19. Joan Plowright

20. Yoko Ono

21. Jonnie Irwin

22. James Whale

23. George Eastham

24. Eva Marie Saint

25. David Graham

26. Shannen Doherty

27. Linda Nolan

28. Bruce Willis

29. Vera Miles

30. Jean Marsh

31. Denis Law

32. Dennis Skinner

33. Bernadette Chirac

34. Sandy Gall

35. Joe Don Baker

36. Pope Francis

37. Joseph Estrada

38. Alberto Fujimori

39. George Lazenby

40. Shirley Eaton

41. Dick Cheney

42. Michael York

43. Michael Schumacher

44. Roberta Flack

45. Quincy Jones

46. Marianne Faithfull

47. Val Kilmer

48. Mel Brooks

49. John Astin

50. Sophia Loren

Looks pretty good. Is there any evidence that Kilmer is ill again? I know cancer recurrences are common but I thought he was in remission for a while. Otherwise a solid list, I can count 15 or so picks that are pretty certain to be hits. 

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This is my shadow list for 2024:

 

Bruce Willis

Caterina Valente

Christoph Daum

Claudia Porsche

David Graham

Derek Draper  15.08.1967 - 03.01.2024

Dikembe Mutombo

Enzi Fuchs

Erik Jensen

Estelle Parsons

Esther Rantzen

Fedez

Françoise Hardy

Frank Caprio

Frank Field

Franz Beckenbauer   11.09.1945 - 07.01.2024

Fritz Wepper   17.08.1941 - 25.03.2024

Giovanni Arvaneh

Ingrid van Bergen

Iris Apfel  29.08.1921 - 01.03.2024

James Whale

Jason Smith   3/1973 - 23.01.2024

Jimmy Carter

Joe Doering

Jonnie Irwin   18.11.1973 - 02.02.2024

Josip Manolic   22.03.1920 - 15.04.2024

Käthe Menzel-Jordan

Katharine, Duchess of Kent

Linda Nolan

Liselotte Pulver

Liza Minnelli

Maria Riva

Marianne Faithfull

Marianne zu Sayn-Wittgenstein-Sayn

Michael Tilson Thomas

Niels Olsen

Nigel Starmer-Smith

Noam Chomsky

Paul Spencer (Dario G)

Rainer Langhans

Rob Bolland

Rob Burrow

Rolf Schimpf

Shannen Doherty

Simon Cowell (SOS)

Steve McMichael

Stuart Gray   18.12.1973 - 27.01.2024

Theo Burrell

Toby Keith  08.07.1961 - 05.02.2024

Toni Hilland 

 

 

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