paulh85 101 Posted August 10, 2015 disappointed so many people seem to like picking the same names "just in case" surely thats not the point in a list like this? Comparing two examples, i think its fine to keep picking zsa zsa considering her age, condition and near death experiences over the last 10 years. However is there a particular reason to keep Castro on until he dies? at 89 is "relatively" young in comparison to others on the list. The same with Mugabe, i think picking people because they will eventually die is a waste of time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mad Hatter 1,092 Posted August 10, 2015 Finding this very difficult. There were only nine names who I looked at and said I really think these people will still be here in 17 months time but I have compiled a 15. [ Valerie Harper (if she survives tthe year) I still think it is too early to do this with any certainty. Come back in December. wait you doubt that she'll surrrive the year and you want her off next years list Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,592 Posted August 10, 2015 Finding this very difficult. There were only nine names who I looked at and said I really think these people will still be here in 17 months time but I have compiled a 15. [ Valerie Harper (if she survives tthe year) I still think it is too early to do this with any certainty. Come back in December. wait you doubt that she'll surrrive the year and you want her off next years list No I think if she is going to go she will go fast otherwise she would linger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grim Up North 3,727 Posted August 11, 2015 Names from previous years who have a decent shot at returning Ian Brady Charles Aznavour James Randi Stan Lee Stephen Hawking Lord Carrington Nicholas Parsons Jerry Lewis Pierre Cardin Frank Bough Angela Lansbury Fats Domino And newbies (either guesses or placeholders for Deathlist type picks...) Jimmy Hill - Geoffrey Bayldon - John Hurt - Howard Marks Comical Ali - Jim Prior Joanne Woodward - Joni Mitchell Tony Booth - Jim Bowen John Noakes Colin Dexter Peter Higgs Next year I would hope there is a place for Muhammad Ali to return as looking at your list of Names from Previous Years I would rather miss out on Frank Bough and a few others. Although I couldn't believe he was left off this year's list and the months are ticking down.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulh85 101 Posted August 12, 2015 Different question then, how many of the 2014 names who were DROPPED off this years list have died? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,483 Posted August 12, 2015 Deathlist picks from a year who died the next year when dropped from the list (from the last few years) 2014 - Pratchett, Shaw Taylor, 2013 - Attenborough, Jaruzelski, Seeger, Garner, Stritch 2012 - Godfrey, 2011 - Geoffrey Hughes, Klugman, Dom Mintoff, Ravi Shankar, Borgnine 2010 - no one 2009 - Steinbrenner, Captain Beefheart, John Forsythe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulh85 101 Posted August 12, 2015 Deathlist picks from a year who died the next year when dropped from the list (from the last few years) 2014 - Pratchett, Shaw Taylor, 2013 - Attenborough, Jaruzelski, Seeger, Garner, Stritch 2012 - Godfrey, 2011 - Geoffrey Hughes, Klugman, Dom Mintoff, Ravi Shankar, Borgnine 2010 - no one 2009 - Steinbrenner, Captain Beefheart, John Forsythe So (so far) no one this year then? Thats always good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,483 Posted August 12, 2015 Deathlist picks from a year who died the next year when dropped from the list (from the last few years) 2014 - Pratchett, Shaw Taylor, 2013 - Attenborough, Jaruzelski, Seeger, Garner, Stritch 2012 - Godfrey, 2011 - Geoffrey Hughes, Klugman, Dom Mintoff, Ravi Shankar, Borgnine 2010 - no one 2009 - Steinbrenner, Captain Beefheart, John Forsythe So (so far) no one this year then? Thats always good. The year is the Deathlist they were on. So in 2015, there's been two so far. One thing I've noticed in recent years, is they are good at finding old folk people think must be long gone, then dropping then after a year, and then said person dies! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Predictor 1,018 Posted August 14, 2015 Then 25 I'll add to the list would be 1. Jimmy carter. Jimmy Carter 2. joe Jackson. Joe Jackson 3. Burt Reynolds. 4. Liam neeson. Liam Neeson 5. Geogre Martin (Beatles producer) George Martin (Beatles producer) 6 .Howard marks. Howard Marks 7. Grevile janner. Greville Janner 8. Glen Campbell. 9. Jack Nicholson. 10. Geogre gaynes. George Gaynes 11. Emmet Walsh. 12. Richard petty. Richard Petty 13. Ian Brady. 14. Brian sevile. Brian Seville 15. Lynne Stewart. 16. Lord carrinton. Lord Carrington 17. Abe vogoda. Abe Vigoda 18. Carol canning. Carol Channing 19. Don rickles. Don Rickles 20. Frank bough. Frank Bough 21. Geogre Kennedy. George Kennedy 22. Clifton James. 23. Olivier Sachs. 24. Harry Leslie Smith. 25. Antony booth. Antony Booth 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathray 2,941 Posted August 14, 2015 Then 25 I'll add to the list would be 1. Jimmy carter. Jimmy Carter 2. joe Jackson. Joe Jackson 3. Burt Reynolds. 4. Liam neeson. Liam Neeson 5. Geogre Martin (Beatles producer) George Martin (Beatles producer) 6 .Howard marks. Howard Marks 7. Grevile janner. Greville Janner 8. Glen Campbell. 9. Jack Nicholson. 10. Geogre gaynes. George Gaynes 11. Emmet Walsh. 12. Richard petty. Richard Petty 13. Ian Brady. 14. Brian sevile. Brian Seville 15. Lynne Stewart. 16. Lord carrinton. Lord Carrington 17. Abe vogoda. Abe Vigoda 18. Carol canning. Carol Channing 19. Don rickles. Don Rickles 20. Frank bough. Frank Bough 21. Geogre Kennedy. George Kennedy 22. Clifton James. 23. Olivier Sachs. 24. Harry Leslie Smith. 25. Antony booth. Antony Booth Jesus, did someone spike your cornflakes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,592 Posted August 14, 2015 Then 25 I'll add to the list would be 1. Jimmy carter. Jimmy Carter 2. joe Jackson. Joe Jackson 3. Burt Reynolds. 4. Liam neeson. Liam Neeson 5. Geogre Martin (Beatles producer) George Martin (Beatles producer) 6 .Howard marks. Howard Marks 7. Grevile janner. Greville Janner 8. Glen Campbell. 9. Jack Nicholson. 10. Geogre gaynes. George Gaynes 11. Emmet Walsh. 12. Richard petty. Richard Petty 13. Ian Brady. 14. Brian sevile. Brian Seville 15. Lynne Stewart. 16. Lord carrinton. Lord Carrington 17. Abe vogoda. Abe Vigoda 18. Carol canning. Carol Channing 19. Don rickles. Don Rickles 20. Frank bough. Frank Bough 21. Geogre Kennedy. George Kennedy 22. Clifton James. 23. Olivier Sachs. 24. Harry Leslie Smith. 25. Antony booth. Antony Booth Who the hell is Brian Seville? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,071 Posted August 14, 2015 Brian Seville - *runs off to check the Spanish version of The Magic Roundabout* 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathray 2,941 Posted August 14, 2015 Brian Seville - *runs off to check the Spanish version of The Magic Roundabout* Vice President of Lstar Capital. Not sure he's quite famous enough for DL purposes though. https://www.linkedin.com/in/bmseville Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,483 Posted August 14, 2015 Brian Seville - *runs off to check the Spanish version of The Magic Roundabout* Vice President of Lstar Capital. Not sure he's quite famous enough for DL purposes though. https://www.linkedin.com/in/bmseville He looks good for his age. Err, whatever age that is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,979 Posted August 14, 2015 Brian Seville - *runs off to check the Spanish version of The Magic Roundabout* Vice President of Lstar Capital. Not sure he's quite famous enough for DL purposes though. https://www.linkedin.com/in/bmseville He looks good for his age. Err, whatever age that is. Ah, we've found the new mascot! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathray 2,941 Posted August 14, 2015 Brian Seville - *runs off to check the Spanish version of The Magic Roundabout* Vice President of Lstar Capital. Not sure he's quite famous enough for DL purposes though. https://www.linkedin.com/in/bmseville He looks good for his age. Err, whatever age that is. Ah, we've found the new mascot! Think we should trying enter Brian Seville in as many teams as possible next year so that when he/his client googles his name all the results are this site rather than his company! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Creep 7,070 Posted August 16, 2015 Names from previous years who have a decent shot at returning Ian Brady Charles Aznavour James Randi Stan Lee Stephen Hawking Lord Carrington Nicholas Parsons Jerry Lewis Pierre Cardin Frank Bough Angela Lansbury Fats Domino And newbies (either guesses or placeholders for Deathlist type picks...) Jimmy Hill - Geoffrey Bayldon - John Hurt - Howard Marks Comical Ali - Jim Prior Joanne Woodward - Joni Mitchell Tony Booth - Jim Bowen John Noakes Colin Dexter Peter Higgs Next year I would hope there is a place for Muhammad Ali to return as looking at your list of Names from Previous Years I would rather miss out on Frank Bough and a few others. Although I couldn't believe he was left off this year's list and the months are ticking down.... Besides Parkinson's, what's wrong w Ali? I honestly don't know. Retarded from a few head blows, ok: but death material in the next 500 days? Tell me why SC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mad Hatter 1,092 Posted August 16, 2015 Names from previous years who have a decent shot at returning Ian Brady Charles Aznavour James Randi Stan Lee Stephen Hawking Lord Carrington Nicholas Parsons Jerry Lewis Pierre Cardin Frank Bough Angela Lansbury Fats Domino And newbies (either guesses or placeholders for Deathlist type picks...) Jimmy Hill - Geoffrey Bayldon - John Hurt - Howard Marks Comical Ali - Jim Prior Joanne Woodward - Joni Mitchell Tony Booth - Jim Bowen John Noakes Colin Dexter Peter Higgs Next year I would hope there is a place for Muhammad Ali to return as looking at your list of Names from Previous Years I would rather miss out on Frank Bough and a few others. Although I couldn't believe he was left off this year's list and the months are ticking down.... Besides Parkinson's, what's wrong w Ali? I honestly don't know. Retarded from a few head blows, ok: but death material in the next 500 days? Tell me why SC I agree I see Ali lasting years Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,483 Posted August 16, 2015 With Ali, there was wobbles with his health a few years back - he looked incredibly frail at his 70th birthday, and one of his friends actually said on BBC news that they didn't know if he'd see his seventy-first. I personally think he'll live now until he completes his unofficial task of outliving every single opponent of his. Mind you, I can see why people might fear he'd be a miss. And I'm starting to think the list should Queen Libby back, not because I think she's going to snuff it this decade, but she's too big a death to risk the outside chance of her potentially doing a Jimmy Carter one year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 6,337 Posted August 16, 2015 I would bring back: 1)Peter Carrington 2)Abe Vigoda 3)Stan Lee 4)Jerry Lewis 5Fats Domino 6)James Randi 7)Ian Brady 8)Stephen Hawking 9)Muhammad Ali Newbies: 1)Clare Hollingworth 2)Douglas Slocombe 3)David Rockefeller 4)June Foray 5)Sheila Mercier 6)Jimmy Carter 7)Greville Janner 8)Jimmy Hill 9)Brian Sewell 10)Antony Booth 11)Oliver Sacks 12)Burt Reynolds 13)John Hurt 14)Howard Marks 15)Tim Curry 16)Malcolm Young Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Creep 7,070 Posted August 16, 2015 With Ali, there was wobbles with his health a few years back - he looked incredibly frail at his 70th birthday, and one of his friends actually said on BBC news that they didn't know if he'd see his seventy-first. I personally think he'll live now until he completes his unofficial task of outliving every single opponent of his. Mind you, I can see why people might fear he'd be a miss. And I'm starting to think the list should Queen Libby back, not because I think she's going to snuff it this decade, but she's too big a death to risk the outside chance of her potentially doing a Jimmy Carter one year. I think Ali just has the coffee shakes. SC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fergie86 376 Posted August 16, 2015 Wasn't it Joe Frazier that said ' The problem with Muhammad Ali is that he doesn't know how to die.' I think he is getting towards the back end as since he was in Hospital at the beginning of the year he hasn't been seen publicly i don't think. I think if Ali was in reasonable health he would of been present at the Boxing Hall of Fame awards dinner were he was inducted the other week, instead it was his daughter who received the award on his behalf. I know you can't die from Parkinson's but i think it does generally shorten your life expectancy as you are more likely to get other illnesses such as pneumonia etc and Ali is said to be at the later stages of Parkinson's so surely he can't go on forever even if it seems as if he will do. Also i think both of Ali's parents died when they were in there mid 70's so it is always possible that Ali could follow the route of his parents. On the other hand though the average life span of someone with Parkinson's is 16 years after the diagnosis and Ali was diagnosed almost 35 years ago so he is a survivor and he will have the best medical care so who knows? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Creep 7,070 Posted August 17, 2015 Wasn't it Joe Frazier that said ' The problem with Muhammad Ali is that he doesn't know how to die.' I think he is getting towards the back end as since he was in Hospital at the beginning of the year he hasn't been seen publicly i don't think. I think if Ali was in reasonable health he would of been present at the Boxing Hall of Fame awards dinner were he was inducted the other week, instead it was his daughter who received the award on his behalf. I know you can't die from Parkinson's but i think it does generally shorten your life expectancy as you are more likely to get other illnesses such as pneumonia etc and Ali is said to be at the later stages of Parkinson's so surely he can't go on forever even if it seems as if he will do. Also i think both of Ali's parents died when they were in there mid 70's so it is always possible that Ali could follow the route of his parents. On the other hand though the average life span of someone with Parkinson's is 16 years after the diagnosis and Ali was diagnosed almost 35 years ago so he is a survivor and he will have the best medical care so who knows? Well I won't bust on someone for putting Ali on their list. He certainly is a fair choice. But saying he is a 'can't miss' for 2016 begs the question. I'm sure we all approach putting our lists together differently. Sir Creep is going to put every person with Stage 3 or worse cancer on his list before he finds room for Ali, for they're all but guaranteed to be in the final 24 months on this big blue marble, whereas Ali, who knows. And SirC can name a good 20 people that meet that simple criteria. Add a few real old people and/or folks from this year's DL, and there probably aren't 10 slots left. Is Ali one of the 10 most likely people on earth to die by Dec 2016? SC will get back to you Dec 31, he may know more at that time. But if nothing new arises, Sir Creep may have a tough time answering 'yes' to that. SC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,155 Posted August 17, 2015 It all depends on whether I drop him from my teams. If I do, he's a goner. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,592 Posted August 17, 2015 If the consensus is that we keep the younger of the two former German chancellors but lose the republican presidential candidate is this a code message to include Arthur Scargill in next year's list? Kohl not Dole. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
