Political Frailty

[alt obits guy 3,371]

Omer Leger, a former Cabinet member in the New Brunswick government of Richard Hatfield, has died. He was 92. Leger was an MLA from 1971 to 1978 and again from 1982 to 1987. He was a former Minister of Fisheries and Minister of Tourism.

 

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1990678/omer-leger-ministre-deces-mort

(French language obit.)

[YoungWillz 21,044]

From the Fringes thread:

 

On 09/04/2019 at 15:57, The Old Crem said:

Mother of Siobhan McDonagh Mp and her sister Margret, peer and former general secretary of the Labour party, dies aged 95.

 

Margaret McDonagh reportedly dead: 

Diagnosed with glioblastoma in 2021 and treatment quality raised by her sister in the Commons: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nhs-brain-cancer-symptoms-siobhain-mcdonagh-b2297896.html

 

Edit: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/22783707/margaret-mcdonagh-dead-labour-emotional-tributes/

[Summer in Transylvania 2,183]

On 30/04/2022 at 20:00, arghton said:

Ti-liang Yang (1930) former Chief Justice with political power

Sir Ti-liang Yang dead at 93.

 

On the 17th anniversary of his wife's death.

[alt obits guy 3,371]

Niculae Goia, the Romanian ambassador to Pakistan, has died. Goia had completed his term, but stayed in Pakistan for health reasons.

 

https://dunyanews.tv/en/Pakistan/734690-Romanian-ambassador-Niculaie-Goia-dies-in-Pakistan

[YoungWillz 21,044]

Former Tory list MSP for Lothian in the Scottish Parliament, Cameron Buchanan reportedly dead aged 76: https://www.midlothianview.com/news/honorary-president-of-the-midlothian-conservative-and-unionist-association-has-died

[Ulitzer95 12,596]

1 hour ago, YoungWillz said:

Former Tory list MSP for Lothian in the Scottish Parliament, Cameron Buchanan reportedly dead aged 76: https://www.midlothianview.com/news/honorary-president-of-the-midlothian-conservative-and-unionist-association-has-died

Tbf I’m surprised he lasted this long. He was very ill when he was an MSP back in 2016.

[Sir Creep 7,070]

On 22/06/2023 at 16:51, arghton said:

Marion Reid, Canadian politician and Lt. Gov of the Prince Edward Islands 1990-1995, dead at 94.

 

One of the "Prince Edward Islands famous five", when in 1993 five of the most influential positions of government in the province were held by women:

1. Nancy Guptill (1941-2020) Speaker of the Legislative Assembly

2. Pat Mella (1943-) Official Opposition leader.

3. Elizabeth "Libbe" Hubley (1942-) Deputy Speaker of the Legislative Assembly

4. Marion Reid (1929-2023) Lt. Governor

5. Catherine Callbeck (1939-) Premier.

 

2018 - back row L-R Guptill, Mella, Hubley, front row Reid and Callbeck:

‘the first female lieutenant-governor of Prince Edward Island’ (assuming you read the first two sentences of the obit)

you think that would have triggered Female Firsts but I know, you’ve 50+ mastabatory lists what need checking.

[YoungWillz 21,044]

Former Tory MP for Blackpool North Harold Elletson reportedly dead aged 62: https://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news/people/tributes-paid-to-former-blackpool-north-mp-harold-elletson-who-has-died-in-berlin-aged-62-4196997

 

Subsequently became a LibDem, then founded the Northern Party. Ended up endorsing the local Labour candidate in the area.

 

A man for all seasons.

[Kenny 283]

50 minutes ago, YoungWillz said:

Former Tory MP for Blackpool North Harold Elletson reportedly dead aged 62: https://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news/people/tributes-paid-to-former-blackpool-north-mp-harold-elletson-who-has-died-in-berlin-aged-62-4196997

 

Subsequently became a LibDem, then founded the Northern Party. Ended up endorsing the local Labour candidate in the area.

 

A man for all seasons.

 

Clearly an honest man with consistent political principles and undivided loyalty to all his parties.

[drol 11,945]

On 09/06/2022 at 21:23, arghton said:

Well here's a list of nonagenarian/centenarian South American politicians. Born 1932 or before. Do not quote the whole post.

 

 

SAINT KITTS AND NEVIS

Edmund Lawrence (1932) Governor-General 2013-2015

Edmund Lawrence.... well, Edmund Lawrence's successor Tapley Seaton dead at 72.

[The Old Crem 3,585]

Lord Bob Kerslake has died aged 68. https://londonlovesbusiness.com/lord-bob-kerslake-who-warned-sunak-that-bravermen-is-a-potential-bomb-and-called-for-her-sacking-dies-of-cancer/. Wiki

[drol 11,945]

Former president of Serbia Milan Milutinovic dead at 80.

[The Old Crem 3,585]

Former Labour MP Doug Naysmith has died aged 82 reports a statement from Bristol’s current Labour MP’s. 

[Octopus of Odstock 2,195]

1 hour ago, The Old Crem said:

Former Labour MP Doug Naysmith has died aged 82 reports a statement from Bristol’s current Labour MP’s. 

 

I'm sure I saw a post a while back from @Ulitzer95 saying last year was one of the quietest years for former MP deaths. This year feels like it's extremely high. Has anyone got those stats anywhere?

[msc 18,442]

46 minutes ago, Octopus of Odstock said:

 

I'm sure I saw a post a while back from @Ulitzer95 saying last year was one of the quietest years for former MP deaths. This year feels like it's extremely high. Has anyone got those stats anywhere?

 

At a quick glance, 2020 had 33. A year by year comparison was started, then I realised it'll take a while to finish. From memory, 2019 and 2012 were also quite high, but I'll need to look up the individual year stats.

[Ulitzer95 12,596]

1 hour ago, Octopus of Odstock said:

 

I'm sure I saw a post a while back from @Ulitzer95 saying last year was one of the quietest years for former MP deaths. This year feels like it's extremely high. Has anyone got those stats anywhere?

15 in 2022.

19 in 2023 and we’re only half way through…

[arghton 6,726]

On 09/06/2022 at 22:23, arghton said:

Well here's a list of nonagenarian/centenarian South American politicians. Born 1932 or before. Do not quote the whole post.

 

PERU

...

Arturo Woodman (1931) Frail old VP candidate.

...

Peruvian politivian, former VP candidate and President of the Institute of Sports Arturo Woodman dead at 91. That list has a lot of good picks for low requirement pools. 

[YoungWillz 21,044]

On 18/07/2020 at 19:22, drol said:

A quick list of old Chinese politicos, one of the hardest thing to kill in this world.

 

 

21)Yan Mingfu (1931): one of the very few high-ranking cadres who opposed martial law at Tien An Men and paid with his career (thanks, mr. Song). Suffering from a "long-term" illness which forces him on a wheelchair.

 

Yan Mingfu reportedly dead: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3226395/yan-mingfu-chinese-communist-party-negotiator-tiananmen-square-protesters-1989-dies-aged-92

[msc 18,442]

@Octopus of Odstock the tl/dr version, no.

 

Btw, thanks for reminding me of Jim Dobbin, who died on a foreign jaunt with John Prescott, when he chocked on his dinner after overdosing on Polish absinthe. Up there with Rod Hull falling off his roof and the Segway guy driving his Segway off a cliff for deaths once heard I'll never forget.

 

Allowing for MPs falling down the back of the sofa, the overall point is still:

 

Year - number of MPs who died*

2023 – 19

2022 – 15

2021 – 26

2020 – 33

2019 – 20

2018 – 31

2017 – 36

2016 – 25

2015 – 27

2014 – 32

2013 – 28

2012 – 31

2011 - 17

 

*again, "at least" before someone finds the forgotten backbencher for Plodding North was missed...

 

So far from 2023 being an outlier so far, the last decade plus makes it look like 2022 was in fact the outlier. 2012 was high (though 2019 wasn't particularly) and I should have thought of 2017 - Daylell, Teddy Taylor, Rhodri Morgan, etc etc.

 

Working below in the spoiler tags

 

Spoiler

 

1.       2023 -  J Morris, Lindsay, Ewing, Pendry, Clinton-Davis, Boothroyd, Cockcroft, Lawson, Brooke, Bonsor, Key, D Spencer, L Stevens, G Jackson, J Anderson, Elletson, Hurst, Naysmith, Lumley

2.       2022 – Jill Knight, Radice, R Hughes, R Shepherd, W Powell, McCurley, Trimble, Fearn, Mahon, D Shaw, N Jones, Chidgey, Blizzard, Sheridan, Dromey

3.       2021 – Gillan, Brokenshire, Amess, Weatherly, H Francis, A Mitchell, Ainsworth, Butterfill, I Gibson, L Smith, E Ross, Pike, Welsh, Lester, Marland, Walters, M Shaw, Cockeram, S Williams, Newens, Judd, Colquhoun, Leonard, E Morgan, M Holt, R Howarth

4.       2020 – J Eden, Ramsden, T Mitchell, Sheldon, Maclennan, P Jackson, Ashton, R Atkins, Rossi, J Lee, E Davies, Stoddart, Brocklebank-Fowler, Mudd, R Carter, T Renton, P Viggers, T Graham, B George, R Thomas, Garel-Jones, M O’Neill, J Hume, S Mallon, R Tracey, Powley, T Dicks, Bowden, Fyfe, Maddock, Olner, Best, Binley

5.       2019 – P Flynn, Dobson, A Miller, Spicer, Mawhinney, D Foster, R Richards, Carlisle, Moate, J Moore, D Lambie, K Warren, Eyre, Magee, Kitson, Dunnett, M English, R MacFarquhar, Walden, J Ellis

6.       2018 – Body, Tapsell, Howie, Hollingworth, I Richard, McGuire, Speed, EH Davies, G Roberts, A Davidson, Barnes, N Edwards, D Davies, Stuttaford, Jessel, T Cox, Cunningham, I Stewart, Temple-Morris, J Callaghan, Dodsworth, Ovenden, M Martin, Townend, Hawksley, Wolfson, Myles, Ashdown, Godman, Brandon-Bravo, Jowell

7.       2017 – Kaufman, McGuinness, F Doran, Hood, Keetch, Cummings, Dalyell, T Taylor, McNamara, Atherton, Beard, J Taylor, R Morgan, Michie, C Butler, D Dixon, Waller, J Hunt, B Walker, Spearing, Forman, J Fraser, Waddington, Latham, E du Cann, G Wilson, Wells, Moyle, Pitt, Moonman, P Dixon, Bossom, D Reed, J Davidson, Buxton, A Thompson

8.       2016 – Chichester-Clark, Prior, Lubbock, D Smith, Jenkin, A Grant, Latham, Parkinson, Roper, King Murray, Mayhew, G Thompson, J Evans, Durant, A Stewart, McQuarrie, McKelvey, J Watts, M Gordon, O’Hara, Rendel, Purchase, B White, Harpham, J Cox

9.       2015 – Meacher, Kennedy, Wareing, Steinberg, Sedgemore, Gorman, T Graham, Janner, Molyneaux, P Fry, Wiggin, Spicer, Aspinwall, Healey, Howe, Brittan, Bellotti, Goodhart, H Miller, Neale, Mason, J Osborn, Hooley, C Price, P Rose, D Coe, Mackie

10.   2014 – Freeman, Benn, Kimball, D Price, Thorpe, Chataway, E Griffiths, C Turner, Barnett, A Williams, D Mitchell, Whitaker, Paisley, M MacDonald, Benyon, Douglas, Kellet-Bowman, Chapman, Fenner, Wilkinson, Coombs, Simeons, Watt, MacCormick, Neubert, Douglas, Faith, Franks, Galbraith, D Turner, Dobbin, Goggins

11.   2013 – McGrady, Wray, W Roberts, J Gilbert, Montgomery, P Griffths, Townsend, Thatcher, Millan, Hayhoe, Boscawen, A McKay, Speller, A Stewart, Crowther, Atkinson, P Fraser, Conlan, Watkins, McElhone, S Wright, Morgan-Giles, Bates,Proudfoot, Money, Chapman, Dickens, Longbottom

12.   2012 – Carr, Short, Hooson, Worsley, C Morris, H Clark, A Hopkins, St-John-Stevas, A Morris, W Harrison, Bagier, Wellbeloved, P Archer, Ashley, Eadie, Newton, Boyson, Corbett, Lofthouse, Whitney, Welsh, Maples, Bell, S Randall, F Cook, Hargreaves, Patnick, Wicks, Atkinson, Gorrie, M Singh

13.   2011 – Keen, Cairns, Sproat, Gallie, Litherland, J Thompson, Raison, Holland, Woodall, W Elliott, Roderick, Craig, Marsh, Allason, B Harrison, Boston, Gardner

 

 

[Gooseberry Crumble 5,342]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-66088604

 

The Labour leader of Wolverhampton  City Council  Ian Brookfield  has died aged 57 after being diagnosed with cancer earlier this year. 

 

https://twitter.com/WolvesCouncil/status/1675826324726792193?t=Dk6tl5XiE6JOlIlp6Fmn4Q&s=19

[drol 11,945]

Brazilian politician and coffin-teaser Siqueira Campos in critical condition with kidney failure.

[drol 11,945]

15 hours ago, drol said:

Brazilian politician and coffin-teaser Siqueira Campos in critical condition with kidney failure.

Siqueira Campos dead at 94.

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https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/23637024.woodbridge-caroline-page-dies-lung-cancer-diagnosis/

 

Caroline Page, a Liberal Democrat Councillor on Suffolk County Council , has died of lung cancer aged 65.

[Ulitzer95 12,596]

Arnaldo Forlani (wiki) dead at 97.

[Sinbabad 1,118]

43 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:

Arnaldo Forlani (wiki) dead at 97.

He died aged 97 years and 7 months. He was the longest lived Italy Prime Minister since 16 September 2021, when he surpassed Carlo Ciampi who died aged 95 years and 9 months.