Political Frailty

[arghton 6,697]

19 minutes ago, drol said:

Rodolfo Stange, last member of Pinochet's government junta, dead at 98.

As far as I know there's still two. Monster, murderer named Santiago Sinclair (1988-1990) who is 95 and probably to avoid prison is at a psychiatric hospital due to alleged "mental insanity" and is "dangerous to others and himself", and his successor Jorge Lucar, 89 who only served for two months before the junta was dissolved. 

[The Old Crem 3,582]

On 18/09/2021 at 11:33, arghton said:

Bouteflika was both the earliest UN General Assembly President (1974) and the earliest Minister of Foreign Affairs of Algeria (1963-1979)

 

The earliest UN General Assembly President is now Tanzania's Salim Ahmed Salim (1942-, in 1979) with the second-earliest being Guyana's Rudy Insanally (1936-, 1993)

Diplomat Rudy Insanally and the trouble spots on his head

 

Earliest Algerian Foreign Affairs Minister is now Dr. Ahmed Taleb Ibrahimi (1932-, 1982-1988) and the second-earliest being Sid Ahmed Ghozali (1937-, 1989-1991)

 

 

 

Rudy Insanally has died aged 87. Obit

[An Fear Beag 1,535]

Tras Honan, the only woman to have held the post of Cathaoirleach (Chairperson) in the Seanad (Irish Upper House) has died aged 93.

Former Seanad Cathaoirleach Tras Honan dies aged 93 (rte.ie)

 

A pick in the Hare's pool, but yet another miss for my Irish Theme team in the DDP. Likely would not have received a QO in any case. Even in Ireland, no-one plays a blind bit of attention to the Seanad, except to occasionally  talk about scrapping it. 

[The Old Crem 3,582]

Norman Irons, former Lord Provost of Edinburgh has died aged 82. Obit

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On 12/05/2014 at 12:26, Bibliogryphon said:

Trumpets sound, heavens open and the list of 53 surviving MEPs from the first parliament descends to the Deathlist

 

 

Allan Rogers (1932-

 

Some of these went on to have ministerial careers such as Richard Caborn and other are already on the radar like Ian Paisley but assembling a DDP team from this lot would be a leap of faith as many will be tocuh and go for an Obit. However if you have spies in the local press then this could be a good source of information.

 

The 1979 elections were held on the First past the post principal with constituencys being roughly approximated to counties it is only in later elections that we get the regional approach and a move to the D'Hondt system.

https://x.com/rhonddabryant/status/1729471384143659037?s=46&t=6_wk24vnJ1JEt1qDDucG3w

Allan Rogers dead.

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On 15/11/2023 at 23:47, Ulitzer95 said:

A friend just messaged me to say Sir Tom Arnold has died, aged 76. 
 

Popular Tory MP so I would expect quite a few obituaries.

A Sir Tom Arnold obit (p/w)

[YoungWillz 21,028]

On 28/07/2023 at 13:12, Ulitzer95 said:

Two more retirements from the House of Lords:

Lord Selkirk (wiki, better known as James Douglas-Hamilton), 80, Scottish Conservative MSP (1999–2007), minister under Thatcher, Minister of State for Scotland under John Major
Lord Watson of Richmond (wiki), 82, Liberal Democrat, broadcaster and one-time President of the Liberal Party <-- looks like proper roast gammon

Not quite sure what's caused such a large amount of retirements, but all these men are above life expectancy so worth watching.

I'll stick this here -James Douglas-Hamilton reportedly dead: 

 

[YoungWillz 21,028]

1 hour ago, YoungWillz said:

I'll stick this here -James Douglas-Hamilton reportedly dead: 

 

Herald Obit: https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/23956856.tributes-paid-james-douglas-hamilton-former-tory-mp-msp/

 

Thought he had been picked at some point for the DDP, but I cannot find him ever being selected.

[Ulitzer95 12,577]

1 hour ago, YoungWillz said:

I'll stick this here -James Douglas-Hamilton reportedly dead: 

 

 

On 28/11/2023 at 11:31, The Old Crem said:

Norman Irons, former Lord Provost of Edinburgh has died aged 82. Obit

Norman Irons and James Douglas-Hamilton died just a few days apart and were both candidates for the Edinburgh West seat at the 1987 UK General Election. Hamilton narrowly held the seat against his Liberal challenger, Derek G. King (b. 1949), who seems to still be alive. The fourth candidate, Labour's Mike McGregor (former Edinburgh councillor, b. 1940), is not only still alive too, but has just tweeted about their deaths:
 

[msc 18,437]

21 minutes ago, YoungWillz said:

Herald Obit: https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/23956856.tributes-paid-james-douglas-hamilton-former-tory-mp-msp/

 

Thought he had been picked at some point for the DDP, but I cannot find him ever being selected.

Never gave us a chance with his short retirement.

 

His defeat in 1997 was caught on BBC live because the cameras rushed there thinking it was Rifkinds seat. Rifkind was known to be doomed by that point though so Douglas Hamilton's defeat confirmed there'd be no Tory MPs in Scotland. Briefly!

[YoungWillz 21,028]

James Couchman, Tory MP for Gillingham (1983-97) reportedly dead here: https://www.politicshome.com/members/profile/association-of-former-members-of-parliament/remembrance-of-departed-colleagues

[polar duck 866]

On 29/08/2023 at 10:08, polar duck said:

List of US Cabinet members from the 20th century:

 

Richard Nixon (1969–1974)

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VP: Spiro Agnew (1918–1996; 77), Gerald Ford (1913–2006; 93)

Secretary of State: William P. Rogers (1913–2001; 87), Henry Kissinger (1923–2023; 100)
Secretary of the Treasury: David Kennedy (1905–1996; 90), John Connally (1917–1993; 76), George Shultz (1920–2021; 100), William Simon (1927–2000; 72)
Secretary of Defense: Melvin Laird (1922–2016; 94), Elliot Richardson (1920–1999; 79), James Schlesinger (1929–2014; 85)
Attorney General: John N. Mitchell (1913–1988; 75), Richard Kleindienst (1923–2000; 76), Elliot Richardson (1920–1999; 79), William Saxbe (1916–2010; 94)
Postmaster General: Red Blount (1921–2002; 81)

Secretary of the Interior: Wally Hickel (1919–2010; 90), Rogers Morton (1914–1979; 64)
Secretary of Agriculture: Clifford Hardin (1915–2010; 94), Earl Butz (1909–2008; 98)

Secretary of Commerce: Maurice Stans (1908–1998; 90), Peter Peterson (1926–2018; 91), Frederick B. Dent (1922–2019; 97)
Secretary of Labor: George Shultz (1920–2021; 100), James Day Hodgson (1915–2012; 96), Peter Brennan (1918–1996; 78)

Secretary of Health, Education, and Welfare: Robert Finch (1925–1995; 70),  Elliot Richardson (1920–1999; 79), Caspar Weinberger (1917–2006; 88)
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development: George Romney (1907–1995; 88), James Lynn (1927–2010; 83)
Secretary of Transportation: John Volpe (1908–1994; 85), Claude Brinegar (1926–2009; 82)

 

Gerald Ford (1974–1977)

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VP: Nelson Rockefeller (1908–1979; 70)
Secretary of State: Henry Kissinger (1923–2023; 100)
Secretary of the Treasury:  William Simon (1927–2000; 72)
Secretary of Defense: James Schlesinger (1929–2014; 85), Donald Rumsfeld (1932–2021; 88)
Attorney General: William Saxbe (1916–2010; 94), Edward H. Levi (1911–2000; 88) 
Secretary of the Interior: Rogers Morton (1914–1979; 64), Stanley Hathaway (1924–2005; 81), Thomas Kleppe (1919–2007; 87)
Secretary of Agriculture: Earl Butz (1909–2008; 98), John Knebel (b. 1936)

Secretary of Commerce: Frederick B. Dent (1922–2019; 97), Rogers Morton (1914–1979; 64), Elliot Richardson (1920–1999; 79)
Secretary of Labor: Peter Brennan (1918–1996; 78),  John T. Dunlop (1914–2003; 89), William Usery (1923–2016; 92)

Secretary of Health, Education, and Welfare: Caspar Weinberger (1917–2006; 88), F. David Matthews (b. 1935)
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development: James Lynn (1927–2010; 83), Carla Hills (b. 1934)
Secretary of Transportation: Claude Brinegar (1926–2009; 82), Bill Coleman (1920–2017; 96)

 

 

Updated for Henry Kissinger.

 

The Nixon cabinet is now extinct. The oldest surviving cabinet member is now W. Michael Blumenthal (b. 1926).

[polar duck 866]

(Double posted by accident because the site is lagging)

[Ulitzer95 12,577]

Ray Marshall (b. 1928) is now the last living U.S. Cabinet Sec to have served during WWII.

[msc 18,437]

Alistair Darling dead!!

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/30/alistair-darling-dead-former-chancellor-labour-aged-70/

[Rhys 64]

2 minutes ago, msc said:

Alistair Darling dead!!

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/30/alistair-darling-dead-former-chancellor-labour-aged-70/

They're dropping like flies today. It's like a very morbid Gillette Soccer Saturday.

[Commtech Sio Bibble 2,028]

4 minutes ago, msc said:

Alistair Darling dead!!

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/30/alistair-darling-dead-former-chancellor-labour-aged-70/

wtf is happening today

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1 minute ago, msc said:

Alistair Darling dead!!

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/30/alistair-darling-dead-former-chancellor-labour-aged-70/

Its relentless!

 

[Spade_Cooley 9,515]

Did the Grim Reaper just get a new todo app?

[Tango854 278]

5 minutes ago, Spade_Cooley said:

Did the Grim Reaper just get a new todo app?

No, heaven and hell both filed a lawsuit against him and this is apart of the settlement.

[The Old Crem 3,582]

Shocking news. Seems to be after a short cancer battle. 

[Brad252 807]

This could well be another of those JFK, C.S. Lewis and Aldous Huxley days.

[Toast 16,130]

43 minutes ago, msc said:

Alistair Darling dead!!

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/30/alistair-darling-dead-former-chancellor-labour-aged-70/

 

I'd completely forgotten him.

[The Old Crem 3,582]

I am starting to wonder if the journalist Hugo Gye is a browser of this forum. He seems to have an interest in what celebs live to old age and deaths of notable people. 

[The Immortal 634]

1 hour ago, Brad252 said:

This could well be another of those JFK, C.S. Lewis and Aldous Huxley days.

 

Well we did lose Munger on 28th, Kissinger yesterday and MacGowan today. Maybe not all on the same day but I can't recall a close sequence of big name celebrity deaths happen since George Michael, Carrie Fisher and Debbie Reynolds in December 2016.

 

EDIT: Forgot about Pele, Barbara Walters and Pope Benedict in December 2022

Edited November 30, 2023 by The Immortal