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7 minutes ago, drol said:

I'd actually deserve it! I just took the risk and got it wrong.

This is where the hoax originated, 18 hours ago. If you look at the news ticker on the bottom it mentions the 2015/16 football season, so the clip is fake/old/inaccurate. The follow up reports this morning from African press all had the age wrong so nothing added up. 

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‘Cecilia’ has tweeted about it. Has not yet posted a correction - but hasn’t yet corrected a post that Alan Greenspan died on the 29th December either. 

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37 minutes ago, The Old Crem said:

‘Cecilia’ has tweeted about it. Has not yet posted a correction - but hasn’t yet corrected a post that Alan Greenspan died on the 29th December either. 

 

 

He was subject to a briefly believed Twitter hoax about five years back that he was dead. I'm thinking if he'd died five days ago there'd be proper news coverage by now.

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6 minutes ago, maryportfuncity said:

 

 

He was subject to a briefly believed Twitter hoax about five years back that he was dead. I'm thinking if he'd died five days ago there'd be proper news coverage by now.


Are you really doubting the word of Lady Ian Cecilia of Easterhouse in the Borough Shithole? How dare you. 

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12 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:


Are you really doubting the word of Lady Ian Cecilia of Easterhouse in the Borough Shithole? How dare you. 

 

Oh, is Ceciliain from Stockton?

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On 02/08/2022 at 22:10, arghton said:

27. Albania

Bik Ndoja (1925)

Alfred Moisiu (1929) Former President.

Ismail Kadare (1936) poet

Rexhep Qosja (1936)

 

Just noticed this

 

Bik Ndoja was a folk singer, he died in 2015 at the age of 90.

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David Bookbinder dead at 82.

Labour leader of Derbyshire Council from 1981 to 1992. Famous for taking on Maggie Thatcher.

Picked in the DDP in the past (e.g. 2009). He died on Christmas Eve so if he was picked again this year (unlikely), he'll be a miss.

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On 09/06/2022 at 22:23, arghton said:

Well here's a list of nonagenarian/centenarian South American politicians. Born 1932 or before. Do not quote the whole post.

 

ARGENTINA (Including less notable names up to 1927)

Magdalena Álvarez de Seminario (1920) Deputy 1952-1955, one of the first female deputies.

Héctor Sandler (1921) Former Deputy.

Santiago Riveros (1923) Politician during Videla's tenure, military commander currently serving a life sentence for crimes against humanity.

Adolfo Navajas Artaza (1925-2022) Former Minister of Social Development.

Julio Bardi (1925) Videla's Minister of Social Development.

José María Klix (1925-2019) Minister of Defence in Videla's govt 1976-1978.

Juan Alemann (1927) Former Finance Minister, survived bomb attack in 1978.

...

Juan Alemann, Minister of Finance of Argentina 1976-1981 during Jorge Videla's presidency, dead at 96. Accused of murders, dissapearances, baby kidnappings and tortures (he's known to have visited Videla's torture centers and two survivors claimed he would personally oversee torture) but never convicted.

Also, Hector Sandler died last week.

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On 02/08/2022 at 22:10, arghton said:

2. France (Including "less notable" names up to 1926)

Jean Turco (1917) Former National Assembly member, alive?

Edgar Morin (1921) Philosopher, politician

André Chandernagor (1921) former Minister

Philippe de Gaulle (1921) Senator 1986-2004, frail and not seen on his 100th.

Marcel Berthomé (1922-2023) Mayor of Saint-Seurin-sur-l'Isle for 49 years.

Henri Bangou (1922-2023) Mayor of Guadeloupe's Pointe-à-Pitre 1965-2008, counts half

Roland Dumas (1922) Two-time Foreign Affairs Minister, President of the Constitutional Council 1995-2000.

Henri Simon (1922) Cranky old Council Communism advocate.

Christiane Papon (1924-2023) Former Constitutional Council member and MEP.

Georges Berthoin (1925) Jean Monnet's chief of staff 1952-1955.

Jacques Delors (1925-2023) President of the European Commission 1985-1995, rumored to be in failing health.

Christiane Scrivener (1925) former Secretary of State of Trade for Consumers' protection.

Pierre Pranchère (1927-2023) Former MEP

Robert Badinter (1928) Minister of Justice who abolished the death penalty.

Jean-Marie Le Pen (1928) Far-right politician.

Édouard Balladur (1929) Prime Minister 1993-1995

Pierre Mazeaud (1929) Former President of the Constitutional Council.

André Lajoinie (1929) 1988 Presidential candidate of the Communist Party.

Jean-Pierre Fourcade (1929) One of Giscard's Economy ministers.

Yvette Roudy (1929) Former Women's Rights minister and mayor.

Jean-Marie Rausch (1929) Foreign Trade Minister 1988-1991

 

French politician Jean-Marie Rausch (Wikidead at 94

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Told today by a reliable source that John Howell (wiki), Tory MP for Henley (since 2008) recently suffered a stroke.

68 and already standing down at the next election but maybe one to watch.

Also, Jo Churchill (wiki), Tory MP for St. Edmunds (since 2015) and current Minister for Employment is supposedly on her 3rd bout of cancer.

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1 minute ago, CastAway said:

Arstanbek Abdyldayev, candidate during the 2011 Kyrgyz presidential elections and self-proclaimed "New God" who "received the soul of God" dead of suicide by hanging at age 55:

 

https://exclusive.kz/self-proclaimed-kyrgyz-god-found-dead-in-prison/

It's okay, he will come back to life in a few days.

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1 hour ago, Zsa Zsa's leg said:

U.S. House Majority Leader Steve Scalise (R) undergoing a stem-cell transplant to treat multiple myeloma.

 

Interesting considering his party has long opposed stem-cell research.


There's a massive difference between harvesting stem cells from aborted foetuses and donations from living patients.

Edit: I see arrowsmith pretty much pointed this out already.

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2 hours ago, arrowsmith said:


Stem-cells for multiple myeloma are harvested from the patient themselves. So, though I get the broader joke, this is not hypocritical. 

Thanks for the info, learned something new today.

He's also benefiting from quality government healthcare that he would never dream about extending to other Americans. You don't have to look far to find a double standard with today's GOP. 

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23 minutes ago, Zsa Zsa's leg said:

Thanks for the info, learned something new today.

He's also benefiting from quality government healthcare that he would never dream about extending to other Americans. You don't have to look far to find a double standard with today's GOP. 

More specifically Congressional health care which is even better than healthcare that normal government workers get.

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1 hour ago, Zsa Zsa's leg said:

Thanks for the info, learned something new today.

He's also benefiting from quality government healthcare that he would never dream about extending to other Americans. You don't have to look far to find a double standard with today's GOP. 


An extremely fair point. 

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US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has been hospitalized since New Year's Day, including spending four days in ICU after complications from a "minor, elective surgery"

It's been a minor scandal that Austin and the Pentagon did not disclose his condition. IIRC, Attorney General Garland had a minor surgery recently and notified the public.

The whole line of succession goes into effect when Biden has a routine colonoscopy, why aren't we told when the top national security official in the country is in the ICU for nearly a week?

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2 hours ago, Zsa Zsa's leg said:

US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has been hospitalized since New Year's Day, including spending four days in ICU after complications from a "minor, elective surgery"

It's been a minor scandal that Austin and the Pentagon did not disclose his condition. IIRC, Attorney General Garland had a minor surgery recently and notified the public.

The whole line of succession goes into effect when Biden has a routine colonoscopy, why aren't we told when the top national security official in the country is in the ICU for nearly a week?

CNN has now said that even Biden didn't know about it until after the National Security Advisor knew about it on Thursday. The deputy Secretary of Defense had to take time out of her vacation, which was in Puerto Rico for some reason, to deal with needing to stand in for her boss and didn't tell anyone outside the Pentagon why it seems... The appropriate congressional committees weren't even notified until yesterday evening...

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35 minutes ago, Comped said:

CNN has now said that even Biden didn't know about it until after the National Security Advisor knew about it on Thursday. The deputy Secretary of Defense had to take time out of her vacation, which was in Puerto Rico for some reason, to deal with needing to stand in for her boss and didn't tell anyone outside the Pentagon why it seems... The appropriate congressional committees weren't even notified until yesterday evening...

Very odd. You'd imagine the White House would know if one of its top cabinet members was in intensive care for nearly a week. 
 

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2 hours ago, Zsa Zsa's leg said:

Very odd. You'd imagine the White House would know if one of its top cabinet members was in intensive care for nearly a week. 
 

Someone needs to get fired over this. Even if it was a routine surgery a cabinet member going into intensive care, especially one in charge of dealing with military policy during a time where the US is involved in assisting and supplying combatants inat least two different wars, deserves notification of at the very least the president. The fact that he wasn't told until days later, is actually kind of terrifying.

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