Songs that would never be made today?

[Bentrovato 1,084]

1 hour ago, The Quim Reaper said:

 

I’ve got PTSD after listening to that

Join the club. 30+ years and counting. But if you do contact injury lawyers for you etc then sue Mr Dammers and Ms Dakar. 

[CaptainChorizo 1,969]

 

You could never make a song like this now,UFO nuts would think they are being mocked.

[Cerberus 296]

"You're sixteen, you're beautiful, and you're mine."

 

A song generally performed by men about three times that age.

[Youwanticewiththat 611]

24 minutes ago, Cerberus said:

"You're sixteen, you're beautiful, and you're mine."

 

A song generally performed by men about three times that age.

Really I want the waterfall of vomit emoji

[Bibliogryphon 9,509]

Whilst not in the same league. This seems like a little unwise considering Bill Wyman's much discussed relationship with an underage girl.

 

 

[Lard Bazaar 3,799]

1 hour ago, Bibliogryphon said:

Whilst not in the same league. This seems like a little unwise considering Bill Wyman's much discussed relationship with an underage girl.

 

 

That was the first 7 inch I owned.

 

There’s an open goal for y’all.

[time 8,575]

Getting on for 40 years old this; I can't imagine anyone doing anything like this today.

 

[Deathray 2,940]

2 hours ago, Bibliogryphon said:

Whilst not in the same league. This seems like a little unwise considering Bill Wyman's much discussed relationship with an underage girl.

 

 

 

To be honest the only dodgy lyric in that is; 

 

We could go on the hovercraft
Across the water
They'll think I'm your dad
And you're my daughter

 

Which doesn't seem at all dodgy when you remember he released this in 1982 at the age of 46 - meaning that even woman in there early twenties could be seen as realistically looking like his daughter. It's probably not the most well thought out lyric in the world, but not really criminal.

[Dr_T 254]

From 1988, comedian Austen Tayshus who got famous with "Australiana" put out a satirical offering called Highway Corroboree.  It poked fun at the expense of celebrating the Australian bicentenniel while highlighting a number of social issues which were troubling Australia at the time (and still do).

 

Probably the edgiest line was (in mocking Aboriginal accent).  "Eh, what's the easiest way to get a neck like a goanna....Get arrested in Brewarrina.  My cousin Albert, he get arrested in Brewarrina.  They took away his tie, they took away his belt, they took away his shoelaces....Cunning little bugger, hung himself with his toothbrush."

 

Bearing in mind that there had been a spate of Aboriginal suicides in custody, enough to warrant a Royal Commission.  

 

Even though it was a satirical piece I don't think it would fly 30 years on.

 

I went to a concert of his in 1989 when I was at uni.  A woman tried to get her money back because his show was full of expletives.  When he saw what was happening he engaged the lady until she cried.  As she was leaving he yelled "And you can fuck your shoes when you get home cause there's been a cunt in 'em all day."

Classy! 

[DemBones 36]

"The Homecoming Queen's Got a Gun," by Julie Brown (1983). Mass school shootings aren't exactly a great topic for musical comedy these days, and she admitted that even she didn't feel comfortable performing it after Columbine.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG3yGdQYwqg

[Bibliogryphon 9,509]

I clearly don't listen to as much disturbing music as everyone else but Sue Wilkinson displayed her feminist credentials

 

 

[Toast 16,063]

8 hours ago, Deathray said:

 

To be honest the only dodgy lyric in that is; 

 

We could go on the hovercraft
Across the water
They'll think I'm your dad
And you're my daughter

 

Which doesn't seem at all dodgy when you remember he released this in 1982 at the age of 46 - meaning that even woman in there early twenties could be seen as realistically looking like his daughter. It's probably not the most well thought out lyric in the world, but not really criminal.

Just criminally corny, as is the entire song!  And it still makes me smile whenever I hear it.

[time 8,575]

This?

 

[Cat O'Falk 3,290]

[time 8,575]

3 minutes ago, Cat O'Falk said:

I had that very show in mind!

[theoldlady 2,280]

Jane Fonda Sucks by Impetigo (I think if I remember correctly.) 

[Joey Russ 7,210]

No doubt this would’ve received a lot of criticism if this was released today. 

 

[Dr_T 254]

Bit of a long post, but courtesy of The Bloodhound Gang.  It's quite a read.  Only from 1999, so I don't know about the whole "Songs that wouldn't be made now" thing, but highly questionable content.

 

I was lonelier than Kunta Kinte at a Merle Haggard concert
That night I strolled on into Uncle Limpy's Hump Palace lookin' for love
It had been a while
In fact, three hundred and sixty-five had come and went
Since that midnight run haulin' hog to Shakey Town on I-10
I had picked up this hitchhiker that was sweatin' gallons
Through a pair of Daisy Duke cut-offs and one of those Fruit Of The Loom tank-tops
Well, that night I lost myself to ruby red lips
Milky white skin and baby blue eyes
Name was Russell

Yes, a lap dance is so much better when the stripper is cryin'
Yes, a lap dance is so much better when the stripper is cryin'
Well I find it's quite a thrill
When she grinds me against her will
Yes a lap dance is so much better when the stripper is cryin'

Well, faster than you can say, "shallow grave"
This pretty little thing come up to me and starts kneadin' my balls
Like hard-boiled eggs in a tube sock
Said her name was Bambi and I said, "Well that's a coincidence darlin'
'Cause I was just thinkin' about skinnin' you like a deer"
Well she smiled, had about as much teeth as a Jack-O-Lantern
And I went on to tell her how I would wear her face like a mask
As I do my little kooky dance
And then she told me to shush
I guess she could sense my desperation
'Course, it's hard to hide a hard-on when you're dressed like Minnie Pearl

Yes, a lap dance is so much better when the stripper is cryin'
Yes, a lap dance is so much better when the stripper is cryin'
Well I find it's quite a thrill
When she grinds me against her will
Yes, a lap dance is so much better when the stripper is cryin'

So, Bambi's goin' on about how she can make all my fantasies come true
So I says, "Even this one I have where Jesus Christ
Is jackhammering Mickey Mouse in the doo-doo hole
With a lawn dart as Garth Brooks gives birth to something
Resembling a cheddar cheese log with almonds on Santa Claus's tummy-tum?"
Well, ten beers, twenty minutes and thirty dollars later
I'm parkin' the beef bus in tuna town if you know what I mean
Got to nail her back at her trailer
Heh, that rhymes
I have to admit it was even more of a turn-on
When I found out she was doin' me to buy baby formula

Yes, a lap dance is so much better when the stripper is cryin'
Yes, a lap dance is so much better when the stripper is cryin'
Well I find it's quite a thrill
When she grinds me against her will
Yes, a lap dance is so much better when the stripper is cryin'

Day or so had passed when I popped the clutch
Gave the tranny a spin and slid on into
The Stinky Pinky Gulp N' Guzzle Big Rig Snooze-A-Stop
There I was browsin' through the latest issue of "Throb"
When I saw Bambi starin' at me from the back of a milk carton
Well, my heart just dropped
So, I decided to do what any good Christian would
You can not imagine how difficult it is to hold a half gallon of moo juice
And polish the one-eyed gopher when your doin' seventy-five
In an eighteen-wheeler
I never thought missing children could be so sexy
Did I say that out loud?

Yes, a lap dance is so much better when the stripper is cryin'
Yes, a lap dance is so much better when the stripper is cryin'
Well I find it's quite a thrill
When she grinds me against her will
Yes, a lap dance is so much better when the stripper is cryin

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19 hours ago, Dr_T said:

I was lonelier than Kunta Kinte at a Merle Haggard concert

 

Jesus, that's one way to start a song...

[Mad Hatter2 85]

Oh bitch, bitch, bitch. All of these songs would easily still be made today in fact songs that are popular right now wouldn't have been made back in the good olde 80s. You guys seriously need to take your nostalgia goggles off.

[charon 4,943]

Bloodhound Gang are today Kid, the porno queen song very up-to-date even now.

 

Its the level of 'shock' , 'Lola' was banned by the beeb for product placement, ie Coca Cola, had to revisit it quickly. Wasn't about the 2018 wankfest over 'trans'.

 

Brown Sugar by the Stones more iffy.

 

'She lost it at Astor' wid be tame today for example, but its all about the times you're in.

 

Made*broadcast are two different things.

 

 

[Cat O'Falk 3,290]

One listener complained to Ofcom about the radio station Gold because they played the Blue Mink hit Melting Pot. The outcome is Gold are no longer allowed to play it.

 

Spoiler

The Music Marathon Gold, 27 May 2019, 12:45 Introduction The Music Marathon is a music programme on Gold which is broadcast on AM radio in Manchester, London, Derby and Nottingham and nationally on DAB. The licences for these services are held by Global Radio Limited (“Global” or “the Licensee”). Ofcom received a complaint about offensive language (“yellow Chinkies”) in the music track Melting Pot by Blue Mink. No introduction to the track was broadcast, or any other content discussing it. The track included the following lyrics: “Take a pinch of white man, Wrap him up in black skin, Add a touch of blue blood, And a little bitty bit of Red Indian boy. Oh, Curly Latin kinkies, Mixed with yellow Chinkies, If you lump it all together And you got a recipe for a get along scene; Oh what a beautiful dream If it could only come true, you know, you know. What we need is a great big melting pot, Big enough to take the world and all it’s got And keep it stirring for a hundred years or more And turn out coffee-coloured people by the score”. We considered that references in the lyrics (including “yellow Chinkies”, “Red Indian boy”, “curly Latin kinkies” and “coffee-coloured people”) raised potential issues under Rule 2.3 of the Code. This states: Rule 2.3: “In applying generally accepted standards broadcasters must ensure that material which may cause offence is justified by the context...Such material may include, but is not limited to, offensive language…discriminatory treatment or language (for example on the grounds of…race…) Appropriate information should also be broadcast where it would assist in avoiding or minimising offence”. Ofcom requested comments from the Licensee about how the content complied with this rule. Response Global said that it understood some of the lyrics in this song had the potential to cause offence but said that the other lyrics and the context of the time it was written and released mitigated the potential for offence. Issue 385 of Ofcom’s Broadcast and On Demand Bulletin 27 August 2019 16 Global said that the offensive language was not intended to be used in a derogatory fashion in the song. It said that the term “yellow Chinkies” was not used as an “insulting term directed at a person of Chinese origin”. The Licensee said that it is clear from the lyrics of the song that the message of the song is “racial harmony, inclusivity and equality” and quoted the following lyric by way of example: “Lump it all together and you got a recipe for a get along scene; Oh what a beautiful dream; If it could only come true, you know, you know; What we need is a great big melting pot; Big enough […] to take the world and all its got”. Global acknowledged that the use of the language in this song would not be acceptable on a mainstream radio station. However, it said that Gold’s position as a “station well-known and loved for its playlist of hits from the 60’s and 70’s” meant that the track was unlikely to cause offence to its audience. The Licensee said that following the complaint notification from Ofcom, it had permanently removed the track from Gold’s playlist. Decision Reflecting our duties under the Communications Act 2003, Section Two of the Code requires that generally accepted standards are applied to provide adequate protection for members of the public from the inclusion of offensive and harmful material in programmes. Ofcom takes account of the audience’s and the broadcaster’s right to freedom of expression, as set out in Article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights, when considering a broadcaster’s compliance with Section Two of the Code. Rule 2.3 requires broadcasters to ensure that the broadcast of potentially offensive material is justified by the context. Context includes for example: the editorial content of the programme, the service on which it is broadcast, the time of broadcast and the likely size and composition of the potential audience and the likely expectation of the audience. We first considered whether references in the track to “yellow Chinkies”, “Red Indian boy”, “curly Latin kinkies” and “coffee-coloured people” had the potential to cause offence. Ofcom’s research on offensive language makes clear that the word “chinky” is considered by audiences to be among the most offensive language and highly unacceptable without strong contextualisation. The research also states that “racist terms were the most unacceptable”. Ofcom considered that the word “Chinkies” is widely understood as a racial slur to refer to Chinese people and therefore had clear potential to cause offence. We considered that the use of the term “yellow” was a derogatory reference to the skin colour of Chinese people. We therefore considered that the phrase “yellow Chinkies” had the potential to be highly offensive. Ofcom’s research does not provide direct evidence for the offensiveness of the terms “Red Indian boy”, “curly Latin kinkies” and “coffee-coloured people”. However, Ofcom considered that “Red Indian” is generally understood to be a pejorative term in modern speech and is frequently replaced with ‘Native American’. Although the terms “curly Latin kinkies” and “coffee-coloured people” are not widely understood to be racial slurs in modern society, unlike the terms “Chinky” and “Red Indian”, we considered that they had the potential to Issue 385 of Ofcom’s Broadcast and On Demand Bulletin 27 August 2019 17 cause offence because they could also be considered derogatory references to particular ethnic groups. In our view, the potential offence caused by these lyrics may have been heightened by the cumulative effect of the repeated use of this language during the verse and chorus (as set out in the Introduction, above). Ofcom then considered whether this potential offence was justified by the context. Our guidance on offensive language on radio states that: “In reaching any decision about compliance with the Code, Ofcom will take into account the likely audience expectations of a particular radio station at the time of broadcast”. It also states that words considered offensive on the grounds of race and ethnicity should “normally be broadcast only in limited circumstances and in context, for example in news, drama, or documentary programmes to explore or expose prejudice”. We took into account the Licensee’s argument that the nature of the radio station (wellknown for playing music from the 1960s and 70s) meant that the track would have been unlikely to cause offence to its audience. We considered the demographic of the station as per its Licence, which makes clear that it primarily targets 35-54 year-olds. We acknowledged that some listeners to a radio station known for playing 1960s and 70s music may have been less likely to be offended by the use of such language, given established expectations for lyrics associated with this era. We considered that the nature of the station did therefore provide some context to justify the broadcast of the track. However, Ofcom’s offensive language research, which was conducted with people of all age groups, shows that the use of derogatory language to describe ethnic groups carries a widespread potential for offence. Therefore, in Ofcom’s view, the likely audience expectations did not sufficiently mitigate the potential for offence in this case. In considering the context of the broadcast, Ofcom took into account that Melting Pot was released in 1969 by Blue Mink, and reached number three in the UK Singles chart and number 11 in Ireland in 1970. We considered that, although this song was popular at the time, the passage of time (nearly 40 years) may have not made it sufficiently well-known today to mitigate the potential for offence. Ofcom also considered Global’s argument that any offence was mitigated in this case by the positive intention of the song, which was a message of racial harmony. Ofcom acknowledged other lyrics in the track that reflected this. After the first chorus, the following lyrics were played: “If you lump it all together And you got a recipe for a get along scene; Oh what a beautiful dream If it could only come true, you know, you know. What we need is a great big melting pot, Big enough to take the world and all it’s got And keep it stirring for a hundred years or more And turn out coffee-coloured people by the score”. Issue 385 of Ofcom’s Broadcast and On Demand Bulletin 27 August 2019 18 We did not agree that this provided sufficient context to mitigate the potential for offence. The title Melting Pot, which may have provided an indication of the track’s overall message, was not broadcast, nor was the song introduced with any contextual information that would have highlighted its overall message to listeners. There was also no other context provided to justify the broadcast of the offensive language. For all of the reasons above, Ofcom’s Decision is that this potentially offensive material was not justified by the context. However, we took into account the steps taken by the Licensee following notification of the complaint from Ofcom. We acknowledged that it said it had removed the track permanently from Gold’s playlist. Our Decision therefore, is that this case is resolved. Content from previous decades can be broadcast under the Code. However generally accepted standards clearly change significantly over time, and audience expectations of older content may not be sufficient to justify its broadcast. Where older material contains content, such as language, which has the potential to cause offence to today’s audiences, broadcasters should consider carefully how to provide sufficient context to comply with Rule 2.3 of the Code.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7399617/Gold-Radio-bans-Melting-Pot-Blue-Mink-listener-complains-offensive-lyrics.html

 

 

 

[Toast 16,063]

I'm surprised that one hasn't cropped up before.  It was pretty cringey at the time, and I'm not talking about the language but the sentiment.

[Bibliogryphon 9,509]

1 hour ago, Toast said:

I'm surprised that one hasn't cropped up before.  It was pretty cringey at the time, and I'm not talking about the language but the sentiment.

What we need is a great big giant wall

To protect us because we've got no balls.....

[Deathray 2,940]

3 hours ago, Cat O'Falk said:

One listener complained to Ofcom about the radio station Gold because they played the Blue Mink hit Melting Pot. The outcome is Gold are no longer allowed to play it.

 

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 The Music Marathon Gold, 27 May 2019, 12:45 Introduction The Music Marathon is a music programme on Gold which is broadcast on AM radio in Manchester, London, Derby and Nottingham and nationally on DAB. The licences for these services are held by Global Radio Limited (“Global” or “the Licensee”). Ofcom received a complaint about offensive language (“yellow Chinkies”) in the music track Melting Pot by Blue Mink. No introduction to the track was broadcast, or any other content discussing it. The track included the following lyrics: “Take a pinch of white man, Wrap him up in black skin, Add a touch of blue blood, And a little bitty bit of Red Indian boy. Oh, Curly Latin kinkies, Mixed with yellow Chinkies, If you lump it all together And you got a recipe for a get along scene; Oh what a beautiful dream If it could only come true, you know, you know. What we need is a great big melting pot, Big enough to take the world and all it’s got And keep it stirring for a hundred years or more And turn out coffee-coloured people by the score”. We considered that references in the lyrics (including “yellow Chinkies”, “Red Indian boy”, “curly Latin kinkies” and “coffee-coloured people”) raised potential issues under Rule 2.3 of the Code. This states: Rule 2.3: “In applying generally accepted standards broadcasters must ensure that material which may cause offence is justified by the context...Such material may include, but is not limited to, offensive language…discriminatory treatment or language (for example on the grounds of…race…) Appropriate information should also be broadcast where it would assist in avoiding or minimising offence”. Ofcom requested comments from the Licensee about how the content complied with this rule. Response Global said that it understood some of the lyrics in this song had the potential to cause offence but said that the other lyrics and the context of the time it was written and released mitigated the potential for offence. Issue 385 of Ofcom’s Broadcast and On Demand Bulletin 27 August 2019 16 Global said that the offensive language was not intended to be used in a derogatory fashion in the song. It said that the term “yellow Chinkies” was not used as an “insulting term directed at a person of Chinese origin”. The Licensee said that it is clear from the lyrics of the song that the message of the song is “racial harmony, inclusivity and equality” and quoted the following lyric by way of example: “Lump it all together and you got a recipe for a get along scene; Oh what a beautiful dream; If it could only come true, you know, you know; What we need is a great big melting pot; Big enough […] to take the world and all its got”. Global acknowledged that the use of the language in this song would not be acceptable on a mainstream radio station. However, it said that Gold’s position as a “station well-known and loved for its playlist of hits from the 60’s and 70’s” meant that the track was unlikely to cause offence to its audience. The Licensee said that following the complaint notification from Ofcom, it had permanently removed the track from Gold’s playlist. Decision Reflecting our duties under the Communications Act 2003, Section Two of the Code requires that generally accepted standards are applied to provide adequate protection for members of the public from the inclusion of offensive and harmful material in programmes. Ofcom takes account of the audience’s and the broadcaster’s right to freedom of expression, as set out in Article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights, when considering a broadcaster’s compliance with Section Two of the Code. Rule 2.3 requires broadcasters to ensure that the broadcast of potentially offensive material is justified by the context. Context includes for example: the editorial content of the programme, the service on which it is broadcast, the time of broadcast and the likely size and composition of the potential audience and the likely expectation of the audience. We first considered whether references in the track to “yellow Chinkies”, “Red Indian boy”, “curly Latin kinkies” and “coffee-coloured people” had the potential to cause offence. Ofcom’s research on offensive language makes clear that the word “chinky” is considered by audiences to be among the most offensive language and highly unacceptable without strong contextualisation. The research also states that “racist terms were the most unacceptable”. Ofcom considered that the word “Chinkies” is widely understood as a racial slur to refer to Chinese people and therefore had clear potential to cause offence. We considered that the use of the term “yellow” was a derogatory reference to the skin colour of Chinese people. We therefore considered that the phrase “yellow Chinkies” had the potential to be highly offensive. Ofcom’s research does not provide direct evidence for the offensiveness of the terms “Red Indian boy”, “curly Latin kinkies” and “coffee-coloured people”. However, Ofcom considered that “Red Indian” is generally understood to be a pejorative term in modern speech and is frequently replaced with ‘Native American’. Although the terms “curly Latin kinkies” and “coffee-coloured people” are not widely understood to be racial slurs in modern society, unlike the terms “Chinky” and “Red Indian”, we considered that they had the potential to Issue 385 of Ofcom’s Broadcast and On Demand Bulletin 27 August 2019 17 cause offence because they could also be considered derogatory references to particular ethnic groups. In our view, the potential offence caused by these lyrics may have been heightened by the cumulative effect of the repeated use of this language during the verse and chorus (as set out in the Introduction, above). Ofcom then considered whether this potential offence was justified by the context. Our guidance on offensive language on radio states that: “In reaching any decision about compliance with the Code, Ofcom will take into account the likely audience expectations of a particular radio station at the time of broadcast”. It also states that words considered offensive on the grounds of race and ethnicity should “normally be broadcast only in limited circumstances and in context, for example in news, drama, or documentary programmes to explore or expose prejudice”. We took into account the Licensee’s argument that the nature of the radio station (wellknown for playing music from the 1960s and 70s) meant that the track would have been unlikely to cause offence to its audience. We considered the demographic of the station as per its Licence, which makes clear that it primarily targets 35-54 year-olds. We acknowledged that some listeners to a radio station known for playing 1960s and 70s music may have been less likely to be offended by the use of such language, given established expectations for lyrics associated with this era. We considered that the nature of the station did therefore provide some context to justify the broadcast of the track. However, Ofcom’s offensive language research, which was conducted with people of all age groups, shows that the use of derogatory language to describe ethnic groups carries a widespread potential for offence. Therefore, in Ofcom’s view, the likely audience expectations did not sufficiently mitigate the potential for offence in this case. In considering the context of the broadcast, Ofcom took into account that Melting Pot was released in 1969 by Blue Mink, and reached number three in the UK Singles chart and number 11 in Ireland in 1970. We considered that, although this song was popular at the time, the passage of time (nearly 40 years) may have not made it sufficiently well-known today to mitigate the potential for offence. Ofcom also considered Global’s argument that any offence was mitigated in this case by the positive intention of the song, which was a message of racial harmony. Ofcom acknowledged other lyrics in the track that reflected this. After the first chorus, the following lyrics were played: “If you lump it all together And you got a recipe for a get along scene; Oh what a beautiful dream If it could only come true, you know, you know. What we need is a great big melting pot, Big enough to take the world and all it’s got And keep it stirring for a hundred years or more And turn out coffee-coloured people by the score”. Issue 385 of Ofcom’s Broadcast and On Demand Bulletin 27 August 2019 18 We did not agree that this provided sufficient context to mitigate the potential for offence. The title Melting Pot, which may have provided an indication of the track’s overall message, was not broadcast, nor was the song introduced with any contextual information that would have highlighted its overall message to listeners. There was also no other context provided to justify the broadcast of the offensive language. For all of the reasons above, Ofcom’s Decision is that this potentially offensive material was not justified by the context. However, we took into account the steps taken by the Licensee following notification of the complaint from Ofcom. We acknowledged that it said it had removed the track permanently from Gold’s playlist. Our Decision therefore, is that this case is resolved. Content from previous decades can be broadcast under the Code. However generally accepted standards clearly change significantly over time, and audience expectations of older content may not be sufficient to justify its broadcast. Where older material contains content, such as language, which has the potential to cause offence to today’s audiences, broadcasters should consider carefully how to provide sufficient context to comply with Rule 2.3 of the Code.

  

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7399617/Gold-Radio-bans-Melting-Pot-Blue-Mink-listener-complains-offensive-lyrics.html

 

 

 

 

How the fuck could anyone be flexible enough to find the mental gymnastics to view Melting Pot as racist?

 

Anyone, I'm sure this video for Rather Be Dead would see Nilson pillared by Help the Aged and other faux elderly advocate organisations. But it's definitely a contender for deathlist anthem.