Joey Russ 7,263 Posted January 1, 2019 It’s that time of year again where we talk about who nearly didn’t make our team, and is the place we can go where we can prove that we were honest about them. So, which drops might you regret the most? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 6,365 Posted January 1, 2019 Tim Conway John McCririck Terry Jones Peter Tork Greg Gilbert Marieke Vervoot Julie Goodyear Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,205 Posted January 1, 2019 I'll not mention anything just now until there's a distance between the end of the year. You know, late obits - the next thing we know we all wake up on 3rd January to discover that Betty White, Herman Wouk and Clive James all died on 31st and nobody knows when McCririck died and we are footling around for our subs! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainChorizo 1,991 Posted January 1, 2019 Dirty Dozen just out of site of my main team Jose Jose LeAnne Barrett Julie Allen Vicky Phalen Bill Freehan Steffan Lewis Michael Murphy Julie Strain*Obit concerns Stacy Title Samu Anoi Greg Gilbert Clive James Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Creep 7,071 Posted January 1, 2019 Bill Freehan and Mohamar Parrikar late cuts cuz I doubted QO. Olivia NJ doubted her demise. Norm Coleman is her twin (69 Cx2) but I had better 9-pt options (read: Turnbull). Jim Kelly only 8 points, late cut. JL Trintignant a shite pick if not D40. My last team cuts: Freehan-Kelly-Lloyd Klein. Last cuts from short list Trintignant, Khan (not enough points), Newton-John, Clegg (not sure theyll die) and Coleman (best of the rest). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,628 Posted January 1, 2019 The Subs for my teams were A team - Isabel Peron Kathleen Blanco Jean Boht B Team - Valerie Harper Henry Kissinger Herman Wouk Around the Square Larry Lamb Anita Dobson. I added Bob Hawke to one of my other dead pool teams but didn't want to enter any edited in case the person I removed (who would have been younger than Hawke) also died. Honor Blackman and Linda Nolan subs in other teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathray 2,942 Posted January 1, 2019 Won't be many being posted in here with DL cup round the corner. Just a reminder before your free with your fancy about golden ticket topplers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,536 Posted January 1, 2019 Which is why I'll just reveal a few: Tony Drewitt-Barlow –Too fringy for my liking. Sonali Bendre – Not knowing what was up with her. Going to regret this one. Cathy MacPhail – Allegedly recovering now after 10 months in hospital. A lock at one point. Kate Figes – Another writer, but Stage IV breast cancer difficult to pin down. Lloyd Klein/Beth Chapman/Walter Mzembi /Michael Murphy/Bobby Joe Maxwell- Didn’t trust them. Julian Fiano – Obit concerns Samu – Wrestled last month Keith Cass/Norm Coleman/Rhys Oakley/Bill Turnbull – Will likely see 2020. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Creep 7,071 Posted January 1, 2019 2 hours ago, msc said: Which is why I'll just reveal a few: Sonali Bendre – Not knowing what was up with her. Going to regret this one. (I didn't read anything leading me to believe her death is around the corner, easy pass) Cathy MacPhail – Allegedly recovering now after 10 months in hospital. A lock at one point. (QO question for sure, I passed) Lloyd Klein (Had him on my roster all along until an hour before I sent in....decided he may not die. His MOTHER otoh....) Beth Chapman (Don't understand why you let her slide, what's 'not to trust'.....you'll regret this one. She should be D40) Norm Coleman (He may see 2020 as you say, but I'd like to see a poll of him v Olivia NJ, they are peas in a pod) Bill Turnbull – Will likely see 2020 (horsepucky and balderdash. Turnbull is actually my Klein replacement, talk about possible regrets!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 11,073 Posted January 1, 2019 My main team "bench": Christy Dignam Dawn Wilson Ian Stewart (Rugby) Con De Lange Kerri Parker Bobby Joe Maxwell Roman Reigns Darren Easton Kate Bowler Thuy Thanh Truong Bruce Anstey Helen Legh Pat Smullen - SECRET - Olivia Newton-John Clive James Bernard Tapie Nobby Stiles Sogyal Rinpoche Norm Coleman Charles Howeson Noel Conway Jordan Dawes Pete Frates Sumner Redstone Marieke Vervoort The B-Team bench: Emma Robinson Peter Lorimer Abby Lee Miller Matt Millen Sufe Bradshaw Lord Henry Mountcharles Angus Sinclair Thuingaleng Muivah Benjamin LaGuer Ruth Morrisey Philomena Lynott Anna Pavord Andrew McDonald Stacy Title Mark Thornberry Michael Murphy (killer) Benedict XVI David Koch Luis Palau Eric Caldow Thomas Keneally Mark Howard Sir Owen Glenn Beth Chapman Audrey Rich (mom of Shirley Ballas) Stan Bowles Leah Bracknell David Hagen Harry Reid Michael Robinson Fred Rister Samantha McConnell Pedro Guerrero, Bo Xilai Franco Zeffirelli Prince Philip Dilip Kumar Carolyn Smith Tim Conway Richard Hadlee Howard Finkel Wattie Buchan Barry DuBois 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death Impends 8,043 Posted January 1, 2019 Subs: Samu Anao'i: Solid pick but I couldn't find room for him Barry Du Bois: Somewhat the same, but I also feel like he could last a few years yet John McCririck: Looks ghastly but have a feeling he's truly rebounding, he just started a column for a racing magazine so the fire in his belly might be back? And some others who I thought about for the final weeks: Con de Lange: Cricketer diagnosed with a brain tumor but frustratingly never gave the severity of it Bernice McCabe: Despite being the oldest glioblastoma pick on my shortlist, seems to actually be in the best shape of that lot for now. Plus the only time so far I picked someone with glioblastoma who survived into another year, they also had the surname McCabe George Alagiah: Potential 11 points kept me considering him for some time but I see him as more 2020 Bruce Anstey: Thought he was fecked at time of diagnosis. But later updates suggest he's pretty much recovered, and he's looking very well in recent photos Dewayne Lee Johnson/Vicky Phelan: Decided so many good names were about to not run any FFBI names - if I did pick a FFBI it would be one of these two due to the news coverage of their plights being far more substantial than your Mail sob stories Julie Strain: If she were mainstream Hollywood I'd have her as a lock but not really convinced "Queen of B-Movies" will be of interest to any QO sources Natasha England: Iko Iko singer using alternative malarkey to treat terminal breast cancer... another one of those solid picks where the room wasn't there Nobby Stiles: I prefer not to go for more than one Alzheimer's/dementia pick. Similar to ALS... and as Fernando Ricksen was one of my first locks, all the other ALS names like Frates, Stacy Title, etc were all thrown out pretty quickly. John Andretti: Couldn't find anything conclusive as to whether he'd linger for years or go soonish Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alt obits guy 3,385 Posted January 1, 2019 Subs: Mazie Hirono (U.S. Senator) - Stage 4 kidney cancer but still fully active Jose Jose (Mexican singer) - Pancreatic cancer but conflicting information on the seriousness of his illness and not much independent info on his current condition Nobby Stiles - Could go in 2019 or three years from now. Dementia has a wide range of prognoses While there are others who I believe are more gravely ill than some of my picks, advanced age and obit-worthiness also play factors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Russ 7,263 Posted January 1, 2019 John Andretti - have no idea what the scan results turned out to be for him, which could either tell that he’s fucked or safe for a while. Knowing my luck, he’ll be fucked so those of you who picked him can thank me later Leah Bracknell - I’m starting to have some mistrust in her. Think she is legitimately ill, but maybe not as ill as she claims Bruce Anstey - Think the cancer is worse than expected (or if he did recover, it’ll come back aggressively), but couldn’t find enough to convince me to pick him Jeff Blackshear, Fred Rister, Kevin McIntyre - all cut on obit concerns, though I think they are all going this year Dewayne Lee Johnson/Vicky Phelan - like DI, I believe there’s enough solid picks out there where you don’t have to pick them to win Clive James - Really do think he’s on the way out, but a part of me wonders if he can see 2020 Bill Freehan - had him on my team for a while, but then I realized that someone in hospice for stroke or dementia could last a while like Bruce Langhorne. As such, another 7 pointer who probably is dying this year took his place, Edmund Capon CJ Samson - Had him under consideration for a while. But that last times article kind of confused me a bit to the point where I wasn’t sure if he was even that great of a pick anymore Kerri Parker - sees 2020 imo Also didn’t pick Billy Clayton on seeming a bit too fringey for me, but I think I’m going to regret that decision Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mad Hatter 1,093 Posted January 1, 2019 Johnny clegg:Literally forgot about him until I finished my lists Harry Reid: Same Kathleen Blanco: Slipped through my radar some how Bob Hawke: The Aussie thread is unreadable thanks to DJL so he fell through my radar. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
machotrouts 854 Posted January 1, 2019 In the spoiler box is my one-off team Miscarriage of Popjustice (a theme team of Popjustice £20 Prize nominees): Spoiler Greg Gilbert (Delays) Petula Clark Sarah Harding (Girls Aloud) Jessie J Andy Brown (Lawson) Tom Chaplin (Keane) Chris Wolstenholme (Muse) Clare Maguire Adam Anderson (Daggers, Hurts) Neil Tennant (Pet Shop Boys) Oritsé Williams (JLS) Michelle Heaton (Liberty X) Paul Cattermole (S Club) Will Young Will Gregory (Goldfrapp) Craig Powell (Uniting Nations) Lily Allen Mutya Buena (Sugababes) Tracey Thorn Natalia Kills (aka Verbalicious) and these were the three substitutes for it: 21. Jo O'Meara (S Club) 22. Amelle Berrabah (Sugababes) 23. Chris Lowe (Pet Shop Boys) The following people narrowly missed out on my two regular teams. Unpersons (a Big Brother theme team) Spoiler (Last year's position is given in brackets, where applicable) (14) John McCririck (11) Danniella Westbrook (1) Linda Nolan (2) Jackie Stallone (6) Julie Goodyear (8) Ken Morley (re) Rebekah Shelton (5) Lionel Blair (3) Bruce Jones (9) Gary Busey (7) Ron Atkinson (new) Amanda Barrie (4) Marco Pierre White Jr (10) Lauren Harries (new) Kim Woodburn (13) Germaine Greer (new) The Situation (new) Rodrigo Alves (new) Roxanne Pallett (new) Lewis Flanagan SUBSTITUTES: 21. Wayne Sleep 22. Kellie Maloney 23. Michael Barrymore (#15 last year) 24. Ann Widdecombe 25. Alexander O'Neal (#12 last year) 26. Daniel Baldwin 27. Chris Ellison 28. Nick Leeson 29. Paula Hamilton 30. Stephanie Davis 31. Stephen Bear 32. Carol McGiffin 33. Dirk Benedict 34. Angie Bowie 35. James Cosmo (#18 last year) 36. Lesley Brain 37. Derek Acorah 38. Paddy Doherty 39. Sophie Anderton 40. Christopher Maloney #1 Hits (a UK #1 hitmaker theme team) Spoiler Last year's position is given in brackets, where applicable. (2) Nobby Stiles (England World Cup Squad '70) (4) Olivia Newton-John (new) Richard Tandy (Electric Light Orchestra) (new) Peter Tork (Monkees) (5) Vera Lynn (13) Tony Baylis (Wurzels) (new) Chris Farlowe (new) Willie Nelson (USA for Africa) (new) Little Jimmy Osmond (10) Doris Day (15) Jane Morgan (new) Anita Doth (2 Unlimited) (re) Rolf Harris (7) Harry Belafonte (new) Larry Cunningham (Floaters) (new) Derrick 'Johnny' Henry (Commonwealth Band) (new) Phil Creswick (Band Aid II) (new) Windsor Davies (new) David Graham (Peter Kay's Animated All Star Band) (new) Demi Lovato SUBSTITUTES: 21. Kenny Rogers 22. Paul Gascoigne (ENGLANDNEWORDER) 23. Pat Boone 24. Tina Turner (USA for Africa) 25. Chris Rea (Band Aid II) (#6 last year) 26. Tony Bennett 27. Gordon Banks (England World Cup Squad '70) 28. Martin Peters (England World Cup Squad '70) 29. Peter Bonetti (England World Cup Squad '70) 30. Peter MacBeth (Foundations) 31. Tommy Roe 32. J.J. Barrie 33. Ian Bairnson (Pilot) 34. Ricky Valance 35. Plas Johnson (B. Bumble and the Stingers) 36. Bernard Cribbins (Peter Kay's Animated All Star Band) 37. Bryan Abrams (Color Me Badd) 38. Sean Kingston 39. Annika 'Mary Joe' Ljungberg (Rednex) 40. Chico Slimani Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 11,073 Posted January 1, 2019 Oh dear, what's wrong with Chris Lowe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
machotrouts 854 Posted January 1, 2019 14 minutes ago, gcreptile said: Oh dear, what's wrong with Chris Lowe? Don't worry, he's just suffering from a bad case of being the 4th oldest eligible candidate for a very narrow theme team. There's not much to work with after Greg Gilbert. Petula Clark is the #2 pick and I'd sooner expect to see her on Strictly Come Dancing than dead this year. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Hemlock 748 Posted January 1, 2019 Dickey Betts of the Allman Brothers Band is one who could burn me. I came very close to picking him. Others I considered were Thad Cochran, Kathleen Blanco, Ady Barkan, Koku Istambulova, and Jon Huntsman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Creep 7,071 Posted January 1, 2019 On 01/01/2019 at 10:35, Joey Russ said: Bill Freehan - had him on my team for a while, but then I realized that someone in hospice for stroke or dementia could last a while like Bruce Langhorne. As such, another 7 pointer who probably is dying this year took his place, Edmund Capon The first two names I threw on my piece of paper in mid Dec were Jordan Dawes and Freehan's....neither of which appear on my team. 48 hours ago Freehan was still on my team, but unlike your 'is he going to die' concerns, I began to question the QO. So I ran some random deceased ballplayers of the past decade--about his level of success--through google etc and got nary a link. Unless it's a terribly slow news day, or someone in the news room recalls the iconic photo of Freehan tagging Lou Brock out at the plate to basically win the 1968 World Series, he should go unnoticed. Maybe a NYTimes obit (which he will certainly get) could instigate a QO a few days later but I truly doubt it. So he got cut by me. It'll be a coup for the believers imho. SC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drol 12,134 Posted January 1, 2019 I did not pick Capon because I did not think he would obit. I did not even verify if he had a Wiki page... dammit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RadGuy 1,619 Posted January 1, 2019 Subs Andrew McGahan - gonna punt that he doesn't get the obit, I got Heimel vibes from him. But everybody else chose him so I feel like I fucked up. Stirling Moss - probable Drop 40er, but old people linger, I could use him elsewhere Jill Gascoine - same as Moss Final cuts Michael Murphy - I think he died off the radar in late 2018, that's happened before with criminals (Raymond Hewlett, Leo Sharp). Nanci Ryder - Year after year she's one of my final drops. Eventually she'll ''pull a Yarnall'' @msc Ady Barkan - Despite dramatic headlines, he's still out and about campaigning, only in his 3rd year of ALS, and will live on to see the 2020 election Pete Frates - Still too stable, might last like Gleason John Hume - he's dying, but I had enough dementia picks Jordan Dawes - only spread to lymph nodes so should be around for at least a couple more years Gary Bigeni - Stats suggest he might not die, and a QO risk John Cocks - considered him heavily until the optimistic December update George Alagiah - more 2020 Sandy Alderson - seems grim reading between the lines, but that's not the type of folk I go for John McCririck - seems a bit of a drama queen, and I need facts, not dramatization. But he's this year's Wetton/Mark E. Smith so congrats to those who chose him. 2018 picks dropped Leah Bracknell/Greg Gilbert - I had them 2 years in a row and grew bored Nobby Stiles - Time for some new dementia picks Dilip Kumar - Immortal? Immortal. And not much points. Marieke Vervoort - Not too bad of a pick tbh, but euthanasia entirely dependent on her mindset. Jose Jose - Voice made him sound extremely ill in October audio clip, however he's a drama queen straight out of a telenovela! Philomena Lynott - Too few points... Dropped early Bill Turnbull - not at all as ill as the press makes it sound Doddie Weir - ''year left if I'm lucky'' ALS sufferer... he can still WALK! He'll be extremely unlucky if he dies in the next 3 years of ALS. Norm Coleman - treatment's working. Roman Reigns - his cancer doesn't seem too severe. Pat Smullen - tumor operated on Sonali Bendre - advanced cancer, but what type? Went back home to India because treatment seems to be working. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainChorizo 1,991 Posted January 1, 2019 48 minutes ago, Phantom of the Midway said: @msc Gary Bigeni - Stats suggest he might not die, and a QO risk The non Camilla Skovsgaard Obit makes any picker of him brave 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,205 Posted January 3, 2019 There's enough distance now. So, I'm the instinctive kind of guy, so there'll be a few names here you might know, might not. 12 Lords A-Leaving etc: Alex Ferguson - 1st Male Sub - Bad in the brain, I still think it's possible he'll have a re-occurrence. Ric Flair - 2nd Male Sub - Who sits down throughout their whole wedding? And boozes before tributing on the BBC? Still, he's still going and marriage might be good for him for a while. Franco Zeffirelli - 3rd Male Sub- Age and Forum speculation got him here, but I don't know enough to put him up there. Linda Nolan - 2nd Female Sub - Didn't qualify for my TOTP theme team, else she'd have been on it and with so many ill dames out there, didn't make it. Nichelle Nichols - 3rd Female Sub - Again, deteriorating for ages, but not ill enough to beat out the competition. Others considered: Hugh Rossi (former MP who just lost his missus last year); Robert Morse (Oldwillz watching an old re-run); Actor Patrick Murray (seems to have COPD, but not advanced enough, still did the Jolly Boy's Outing later); Chaz McDevitt (one of those he's still alive? picks); Bunny Wailer (of Bob Marley etc) I'm going to regret not picking him I think he's pretty far gone. Comedy Cremations Robert Fyfe - Sub - old and ill Summer Winer. Richard O'Sullivan- Sub - dropped this year, looked pretty good meeting Prince Harry's missus, I may put him back on next year if he lives. Others dropped: Jackie Mason (he's getting up there, but the gefilter fish and dumplings are good); Mel Brooks (don't want to admit he'll go); Mike Yarwood (who knows, once he hits 84 he might return to my team). Hits of 1983: David Paich (Toto)- Sub - seems to having issues especially with touring, edged out by Tandy of ELO for similar reasons. Elton John - Sub - about time for another illness during his tour. One wrong move onstage and pow! Rod Stewart - Sub - his appearance on Strictly was enough for a subs spot, not the main team. Think he had a spot of pneumonia, weak chest etc. Others considered: Mick Foster (Foster and Allen) simply on age, still touring; Meatloaf but when I submitted my team I hadn't seen the latest pics, might be a huge miss; Larry McDonald (Monyaka) he's 81 and a drummer!!!!!! but I'm not sure he'd obit; Don Powell (Slade) might have picked him, but only one space per band this year was the rule and Jim Lea has been very ill; Dionne Warwick simply on the basis that Aretha success might have gone to my head! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 11,073 Posted August 28, 2019 On 01/01/2019 at 15:25, gcreptile said: My main team "bench": Sogyal Rinpoche He's dead now, the writer of esoteric must-read "The Tibetan Book of the Dead" https://www.lionsroar.com/buddhist-teacher-sogyal-rinpoche-dead-age-72/ I would have picked him because of liver cancer, but he died of pulmonary embolism. Could be related, or not. He was also under accusation of sexual abuse. Edit for search function: Sogyal Rinpoche 2nd edit: Colon cancer, not liver - not at home, sorry. 3rd edit: the book's name is a little different, Ah well, I was on an overcrowded train. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
