Grim Up North 3,565 Posted November 4, 2020 Florida and Texas in the bag for Trump. Looks super tight - someone on telly just suggested a route to 269-269 - eek! Anyway too close to call - this will still be going on at 7am - time for some sleep. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_engineer 1,405 Posted November 4, 2020 Trumps winning Florida, Georgia, Pennsylvania,michigan arizona ,nevada, Ohio,north Carolina but will lose Virginia, Minnesota and new Hampshire. 4 more years for Trump. Oh and look below they know who's winning. https://twitter.com/Birdyword/status/1323818411416145928?s=20 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,175 Posted November 4, 2020 I don't think the dems will win again - they surely going to completely split into two parties. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,175 Posted November 4, 2020 NYT saying Arzonia will be tough for trump through. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,175 Posted November 4, 2020 13 minutes ago, Grim Up North said: Florida and Texas in the bag for Trump. Looks super tight - someone on telly just suggested a route to 269-269 - eek! Anyway too close to call - this will still be going on at 7am - time for some sleep. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_engineer 1,405 Posted November 4, 2020 I forgot Wisconsin incredible numbers. The demographics are changing but alot of voting republican. Some have predicted trump capturing nearly 50% of the Latino vote and white liberals low fertility rate compared to white conservative fertility rate starting to take hold as the kids of conservatives become old enough to vote . A big brown wall of Latino voters will re-elect Donald Trump. https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/republicans-more-kids-democrats-lot-183722934.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,175 Posted November 4, 2020 That would be a big shock - New Mexico already been called for Biden in the president race through. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,175 Posted November 4, 2020 I wonder if Rubio or Cruz should now be the favourite for the 2024 republican nomination. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,175 Posted November 4, 2020 First flip. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainChorizo 1,904 Posted November 4, 2020 23 minutes ago, The Old Crem said: I wonder if Rubio or Cruz should now be the favourite for the 2024 republican nomination. Ted Cruz is literally the only Republican this century who has almost lost a national race in Texas. A Cuban is literally the last person you want on the ballot if you are trying to appeal to Mexican Americans in the Southwest,I would imagine my Trump voting Mom would vote for like Ilhan Omar or Hilary before she ever would vote a Cuban politician. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,175 Posted November 4, 2020 https://twitter.com/NumbersMuncher/status/1323858517833490439 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,175 Posted November 4, 2020 I am not sure what the point of biden wining will be without the senate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theoldlady 1,991 Posted November 4, 2020 Trump may just inch by here and win - they are playing around a bit with the numbers in Pennsylvania and Michigan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 12,164 Posted November 4, 2020 In an unfortunate turn of events, Kanye West has conceded this election. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoffinLodger 1,247 Posted November 4, 2020 Looks like Trump is about to declare victory Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
torbrexbones 717 Posted November 4, 2020 1 hour ago, The Old Crem said: I am not sure what the point of biden wining will be without the senate. It would mean that Trump lost and if that point is not big enough, I don't know what else you could want. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoffinLodger 1,247 Posted November 4, 2020 Donald Trump taking legal action to stop any more votes being counted- he has effectively declared himself the winner .,The days ahead are going to be potentially catastrophic for American democracy ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Russ 7,119 Posted November 4, 2020 Arizona called for Biden: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Great Cornholio 819 Posted November 4, 2020 I think its safe to say that Trump has won. I honestly cant see any clear way Biden can win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Bearer 5,660 Posted November 4, 2020 1 hour ago, CoffinLodger said: Donald Trump taking legal action to stop any more votes being counted- he has effectively declared himself the winner .,The days ahead are going to be potentially catastrophic for American democracy ! Can you prove this? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,234 Posted November 4, 2020 It was a likely scenario though, and the scenario Trump liked, that he would be ahead on election day and the early vote would come in later the week, especially in Pennsylvania. That's why he telegraphed in advance, that the Dems would "steal the election" etc.... And yes, Biden still has better chance to win, for example, The New York Times gives him a 63% chance of winning in Georgia. Still, the state polls were off. Shy Trump voters it seems. And why, oh why, does it always have to be so chaotic? Will there be another "Brooks Brothers" riot, i.e. Republican party activists disrupting the state count? But this time in Pennsylvania.... And in addition, yes, Biden gained a lot over Hillary, for example in Minnesota and New Hampshire, also a couple of points in Ohio. You would think that it would translate to Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania at least somewhat. Trump won those states in 2016 by less than 1%. But no, it gets just as close as the last time. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grim Up North 3,565 Posted November 4, 2020 40 minutes ago, Kenny McCormick said: I think its safe to say that Trump has won. I honestly cant see any clear way Biden can win. He needs to win Pennsylvania plus 1 out of Wisconsin or Michigan. Looking at numbers in PA currently Trump has a 678,000 lead with presumably mainly the postal votes to be counted. They estimate that 74% of the vote is counted which means there are roughly 1,845,000 votes to come. Biden would have to get 1,261,000 of those votes (68.3%) to tie with Trump - it's possible but there is going to be one hell of a shit storm if that happens on Friday this week. Wisconsin and Michigan may both go Trump's way which might save the world from month's of US Presidential legal news (although obviously not save the world). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
