Derby Dead Pool 2022

[Grim Up North 3,725]

1 minute ago, Ulitzer95 said:

I’m very aware.

 

However, both profiles displayed use a description for the politician and each uses a different picture of the politician.

just give a bit of time and all will be sorted - the pointing out of the errors is an important and useful part of the process but then they need fixed which is normally more complex than would appear.

 

Thanks for your patience.

[maryportfuncity 10,646]

1 hour ago, Grim Up North said:

just give a bit of time and all will be sorted - the pointing out of the errors is an important and useful part of the process but then they need fixed which is normally more complex than would appear.

 

Thanks for your patience.

 

 

No worries, of course, maybe Duffy (actor) is taking this year off being a dead pool candidate and he'll emerge again next year - we'll all say we thought he was dead, but in the end we'll realise we all just dreamed it but "it seemed so real!"

 

[Ulitzer95 12,597]

Thought it would be interesting to look at the oldest entries in the DDP this year. Strangely enough, there are exactly 101 centenarian entries as of 18 Jan 2022 (with Ray Anthony the next to join the club on 20 Jan), but that's if we exclude Apilado and Baker Miracle, who were already confirmed to be deceased before the starting line.

I'll update this only once – at the end of the year – to see how many scored in the end.

The 101 oldest entries in the DDP 2022

1 Kane Tanaka b. 2 Jan 1903 [dead – and a hit!]
2 Sœur Andre b. 11 Feb 1904
(X) Ruth Apilado b. 30 Apr 1908 [already died in 2021 so not valid]
3 Mollie Walker b. 5 Feb 1909 [dead – but didn't obit]
4 Saturnino de la Fuente García b. 11 Feb 1909 [dead – and a hit!]
5 Virginia McLaurin b. 12 Mar 1909 [dead – and a hit!]
6 Lawrence Brooks b. 12 Sep 1909 [dead – and a hit!]
7 Stanisław Kowalski b. 14 Apr 1910 [dead – but didn't obit]
8 Marita Camacho Quirós b. 10 Mar 1911
9 Fauja Singh b. 1 Apr 1911
10 Dagny Carlsson b. 8 May 1912 [dead – and a hit!]
11 John Tinniswood b. 26 Aug 1912
12 Katsumi Tezuka b. 31 Aug 1912 [likely deceased]
13 Boris Pahor b. 26 Aug 1913 [dead – and a hit!]
14 Anne Baker b. 14 May 1914
15 Colette Maze b. 16 Jun 1914
16 Tsuneko Sasamoto b. 1 Sep 1914 [dead – and a hit!]
17 Marian Fuks b. 28 Sep 1914  [dead – but didn't obit]
18 James C. Floyd b. 20 Oct 1914
19 Thelma McKenzie b. 6 Apr 1915 [likely deceased]
20 Carmen Herrera b. 30 May 1915 [dead – and a hit!]
21 Frances Hesselbein b. 1 Nov 1915 [dead – and a hit!]
22 Isabel Crook b. 15 Dec 1915
23 Julia Hawkins b. 10 Feb 1916
24 Geneviève Callerot b. 6 May 1916
25 Everett Lee b. 31 Aug 1916 [dead – but didn't obit]
26 Fanita English b. 22 Oct 1916 [dead – but didn't obit]
27 Lise Nørgaard b. 14 Jun 1917
28 Art Rupe b. 5 Sep 1917 [dead – and a hit!]
29 Francis Jackson b. 2 Oct 1917 [dead – and a hit!]
30 Marsha Hunt b. 17 Oct 1917 [dead – and a hit!]
31 Charles Taylor b. 25 Oct 1917 [disappeared 1945, presumed deceased]
32 Marie-Louise Wirth b. 23 Nov 1917 [dead – but didn't obit]
33 Elisabeth Waldo b. 15 Jun 1918
34 Brenda Milner b. 15 Jul 1918
35 Louise Tobin b. 11 Nov 1918 [dead – but didn't obit]
36 Joyce Reynolds b. 18 Dec 1918 [dead – and a hit!]
37 Lotfollah Safi Golpaygani b. 20 Feb 1919 [dead – but didn't obit]
38 Wiltrud Topic-Mersmann b. 21 Feb 1919 [dead – but didn't obit]
39 Leonor Oyarzún b. 10 Mar 1919 [dead – but didn't obit]
40 Lisel Heise b. 12 Mar 1919 [dead – but didn't obit]
41 Henry Danton b. 30 Mar 1919 [dead – and a hit!]
42 Caren Marsh Doll b. 6 Apr 1919
43 Traute Lafrenz b. 3 May 1919
44 Walter Ferguson b. 7 May 1919
45 June Spencer b. 14 Jun 1919
46 John Hemingway b. 17 Jul 1919
47 James Lovelock b. 26 Jul 1919 [dead – and a hit!]
(X) Berniece Baker Miracle b. 30 Jul 1919 [already died in 2014 so not valid]
48 Nehemiah Persoff b. 2 Aug 1919 [dead – and a hit!]
49 Sister Jean b. 21 Aug 1919
50 George Boscawen, 9th Viscount Falmouth b. 31 Oct 1919 [dead – and a hit!]
51 Eleanor Collins b. 21 Nov 1919
52 Klaus Obermeyer b. 2 Dec 1919
53 Guido Gorgatti b. 5 Dec 1919
54 Charles McGee b. 7 Dec 1919 [dead – and a hit!]
55 Marianne, Princess zu Sayn-Wittgenstein-Sayn b. 9 Dec 1919
56 Pierre Soulages b. 24 Dec 1919 [dead – and a hit!]
57 Tony Murray b. 8 Feb 1920
58 Bill Pitman b. 12 Feb 1920 [dead – and a hit!]
59 Mike Sadler b. ?? Feb 1920
60 Benjamin B. Ferencz b. 11 Mar 1920
61 Josip Manolić b. 22 Mar 1920
62 Marion Mann b. 29 Mar 1920 [dead – but didn't obit]
63 Marga Minco b. 31 Mar 1920
(–) Princess Felicitas of Salm-Horstmar b. 31 Mar 1920
65 Marthe Cohn b. 13 Apr 1920
66 Eleanore Schönborn b. 14 Apr 1920 [dead – but didn't obit]
67 Arnold Yarrow b. 17 Apr 1920
68 César Yanes Urías b. 24 Apr 1920
69 John Cruickshank b. 20 May 1920
70 Diana Armfield b. 11 Jun 1920
(–) Qapik Attagutsiak b. 11 Jun 1920
72 Sir Patrick Duffy b. 17 Jun 1920
73 Saleh Ajeery b. 23 Jun 1920 [dead – but didn't obit]
74 C. R. Rao b. 10 Sep 1920
75 Roger Angell b. 19 Sep 1920 [dead – and a hit!]
76 Kenneth McAlpine b. 21 Sep 1920
77 Gail Halvorsen b. 10 Oct 1920 [dead – and a hit!]
78 Hilda Bernard b. 29 Oct 1920 [dead – but didn't obit]
79 Franca Ciampi b. 19 Dec 1920
80 Agnes Keleti b. 9 Jan 1921
81 Elisabeth Kirkby b. 26 Jan 1921
82 Hans Albert b. 8 Feb 1921
83 Hazel McCallion b. 14 Feb 1921
84 Al Jaffee b. 13 Mar 1921
85 Elizabeth Kelly b. 29 Mar 1921
86 Bill Butler b. 7 Apr 1921
87 Eric Tweedale b. 5 May 1921
88 Sir Anthony Epstein b. 18 May 1921
89 Ray Lawler b. 23 May 1921
90 Iris Apfel b. 29 Aug 1921
91 Eddy Goldfarb b. 5 Sep 1921
92 Francisco Morales-Bermúdez b. 4 Oct 1921 [dead – and a hit!]
93 Julia Dingwort-Nusseck b. 6 Oct 1921
94 Margot Friedländer b. 5 Nov 1921
95 Walter Mirisch b. 8 Nov 1921
96 Johnny Johnson b. 25 Nov 1921 [dead – and a hit!]
97 Françoise Gilot b. 26 Nov 1921
98 Charley Trippi b. 14 Dec 1921 [dead – and a hit!]
99 Philippe de Gaulle b. 28 Dec 1921
100 Hugo Broch b. 6 Jan 1922
101 Luis Echeverría b. 17 Jan 1922 [dead – and a hit!]

Something that stands out this year is that the # of world's oldest type picks is low (just the top two). I remember years back people used to pick loads of the supercentenarians off of the top 100 list on Wiki. If we ignore Fauja Singh and Virginia McLaurin, there are no longevity myth picks either (i.e. world's "oldest" man at 124 from village in India type picks). Have the new rules disallowed such names or are people just getting smarter with their picks over time?

[Death Impends 7,975]

18 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:

Something that stands out this year is that the # of world's oldest type picks is low (just the top two). I remember years back people used to pick loads of the supercentenarian off of the top 100 list on Wiki. If we ignore Fauja Singh and Virginia McLaurin, there are no longevity myth picks either (i.e. world's "oldest" man at 124 from village in India type picks). Have the new rules disallowed such names or are people just getting smarter with their picks over time?

 

Mostly the latter. I don't think anyone's actually tested the committee with a longevity claimant, though we did reject a few centenarians on insufficient notability.

[maryportfuncity 10,646]

Re the oldest entries, I'll cop for fielding Singh, Boscawan and Reynolds and largely sharing them (main team) with a theme team called Old as Dirt. Despite the diminutive points haul on offer they're an attempt to pick people who won't see action a year later and a reaction to desperately ill but depressingly determined types who've mocked my efforts at selection in the last couple of years. 

 

Incidentally, Singh...any detailed write up on his improbable athletic career tends to include mention of the fact there are those willing to dispute his age and no hard evidence by way of a birth certificate to settle the matter.

 

[Sean 6,325]

I just stopped picking centenarians altogether.Just not worth enough points.Even the Drop 40 ones which there are none this year and last year.

[msc 18,443]

I didn't pick Muazzez Cig because she's been picked the last 5 DDPs consistently. Had to double check after Ulitzers list, but no, no one has her - doomed to a jinxed death in 2022 now?

[Captain Hemlock 742]

I picked Bernard Kalb who turns 100 on February 4. He is surprisingly a unique.

[marinade 18]

On 17/01/2022 at 21:56, Grim Up North said:

 

This is a 2020 pick that was adjudicated on back then. The decision seems to be based on the fact that he is part of her 'entourage' in that I suppose she was really young when she became famous and there are articles about him going back a while.

 

I haven't rechecked that summary is accurate but that's what the decision last year was roughly based on.

 

Hmm. I left him out of my 20 because he seemed no more eligible than Dave Marsh, and I thought having all of Marsh, Church and Amy Price was leaning into my subs a bit much. Ah well.

 

By the way, in People I Think Might Die In 2022's team, Michael Fish is not the hurricane denying weatherman but PITMD's perennial pick, the 60's designer.

 

Thanks for your hard work!

[Grim Up North 3,725]

5 minutes ago, marinade said:

 

Hmm. I left him out of my 20 because he seemed no more eligible than Dave Marsh, and I thought having all of Marsh, Church and Amy Price was leaning into my subs a bit much. Ah well.

 

By the way, in People I Think Might Die In 2022's team, Michael Fish is not the hurricane denying weatherman but PITMD's perennial pick, the 60's designer.

 

Thanks for your hard work!

Church is a shit pick anyway.

 

Only a tiny minority of teams had any disallowed picks - most choosing to stay away from picks that in their own judgment were FFBI.

 

On the other hand one team had 4 disallowed picks and so has only 19 live names in the game.

 

One other team clearly knew their picks were dodgy and so supplied 6 subs - in the end only 3 were needed but the Committee will be discussing a max number of subs allowed for disallowed picks because the entrant clearly knew that lots of their team was sitting on the fence of allowability and we shouldn’t encourage that approach.

[Death Impends 7,975]

There is one pick that on paper, we should disallow, but were "eh whatever" about. Because they have a 0.00000001% chance of obiting (and may already be dead already), the team that picked them has a 0.00000001% chance of winning, and selfishly I get too much a kick out of the image I chose for them...

[YoungWillz 21,044]

Haven't been through them all, but some odd double initialled surnames. Sheena Eeaston, Barry Nnewman, Jiro Oono.

[Grim Up North 3,725]

24 minutes ago, YoungWillz said:

Haven't been through them all, but some odd double initialled surnames. Sheena Eeaston, Barry Nnewman, Jiro Oono.

ii hhave nno iidea wwhy tthat wwould hhappen 

[The Old Crem 3,593]

I am surprised no one took a punt on multiple Rape charge facing footballer Benjamin Mendy in case he ends it all. 

[maryportfuncity 10,646]

2 hours ago, The Old Crem said:

I am surprised no one took a punt on multiple Rape charge facing footballer Benjamin Mendy in case he ends it all. 

 

 

Be kinda fitting if a footballer scored significantly in the Deathlist Cup, mind, thanks for the tip!

[Gooseberry Crumble 5,342]

On 18/01/2022 at 12:37, maryportfuncity said:

 

 

No worries, of course, maybe Duffy (actor) is taking this year off being a dead pool candidate and he'll emerge again next year - we'll all say we thought he was dead, but in the end we'll realise we all just dreamed it but "it seemed so real!"

 

 

 

This is my favourite photo of him . In the shower back from the dead saying good morning did you miss me?!

[The Old Crem 3,593]

6 minutes ago, maryportfuncity said:

 

 

Be kinda fitting if a footballer scored significantly in the Deathlist Cup, mind, thanks for the tip!

His trial was postponed earlier this month  from February to at least June so it’s less likely any suicide what happen until near then.

[maryportfuncity 10,646]

2 minutes ago, The Old Crem said:

His trial was postponed earlier this month  from February to at least June so it’s less likely any suicide what happen until near then.

 

 

What, you rang him to check? I'm assuming he could be suicidal the next time the guy from JustEat clocks who he's delivering to and  calls him a rapist to his face.

[The Old Crem 3,593]

17 minutes ago, maryportfuncity said:

 

 

What, you rang him to check? I'm assuming he could be suicidal the next time the guy from JustEat clocks who he's delivering to and  calls him a rapist to his face.

Suicides for those on remand tend to more often occur shortly or during trials 

[maryportfuncity 10,646]

1 hour ago, The Old Crem said:

Suicides for those on remand tend to more often occur shortly or during trials 

 

 

Aye, but the public profile here makes our man summat of a wild card. Unlikely to top himself IMHO. The recent convicted footballing nonces didn't and Ched Evans has hauled himself from Fleetwood to Preston, dazzling defences with his skills as opposing supporters save their choicest insults for him. 

 

 

[Banana 859]

Idk whose team Yahoo Will Do is, but I'm gonna assume the David West picked is the baseball player and not the footballer.

[CaptainChorizo 1,982]

6 minutes ago, Banana said:

Idk whose team Yahoo Will Do is, but I'm gonna assume the David West picked is the baseball player and not the footballer.

 

Whoever picked them should have specificed with such a common first name and surname. Also existing is  a pretty notable basketballl player. David West was an all star for the  New Orleans Hornets in the 00's,and later won an NBA title as part of the Curry-Durant era Warriors in 2017-2018

[Death Impends 7,975]

Yahoo Will Do is Reptile's C Team, named as such due to its heaviness on Yahoo UK gambles.

 

[gcreptile 10,970]

Yes, I am changing it actually right now, thanks!

[Toast 16,140]

On 16/01/2022 at 23:20, Toast said:

I also have a team name quibble in that my second team should be "No One Here Gets Out Alive" rather than "Nobody Here Gets Out Alive".  (Doors lyric as I'm sure everyone recognises.)

 

Thanks for fixing that.  But there is now a team history attached which isn't mine, as this is a new entry.  Possibly someone used that team name before?