Youth in Asia 1,086 Posted November 28, 2022 On 22/11/2022 at 20:56, The Old Crem said: Neighbours actress Kate Keltie has stage four breast cancer at the age of 36. https://www.gofundme.com/f/kate-has-cancer-how-can-you-help-pls-donate?utm_source=customer&utm_medium=copy_link_all&utm_campaign=p_cp+share-sheet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Keltie Would she get a QO? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Old Crem 3,582 Posted November 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Youth in Asia said: Would she get a QO? Her illness is being covered by the Sun, Mirror, Metro, Mail, Independent. So 100% she would. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windsor 2,233 Posted November 28, 2022 On 27/11/2022 at 07:09, The Daredevil said: Oscar Quitak Lee Montague Peter Cellier Michael Craig Colin Jeavons John Cairney Are these elderly neighbours, just I’ve never heard of any of them… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Commtech Sio Bibble 2,028 Posted November 28, 2022 Former secret service agent Clint Hill who is notable for his actions following the Kennedy assassination and is now a published author will be 91 in January, recent photographs show him with tubes going into his nose, does still seem to be active despite this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,130 Posted November 28, 2022 51 minutes ago, Windsor said: Are these elderly neighbours, just I’ve never heard of any of them… 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Summer in Transylvania 2,173 Posted November 28, 2022 Never mentioned on this forum before according to a search, but Dieter Rams, German architect and designer, whose works have achieved worldwide acclaim, is 91 next May. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RIP Wee Jum 1,559 Posted November 28, 2022 Ricky Tomlinson (83) - Jim Royle in The Royle Family Sue Johnston (78) - Barbara Royle in The Royle Family Peter Martin (88) - Joe Carroll in The Royle Family Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve 596 Posted November 29, 2022 6 hours ago, RIP Wee Jum said: Ricky Tomlinson (83) - Jim Royle in The Royle Family Sue Johnston (78) - Barbara Royle in The Royle Family Peter Martin (88) - Joe Carroll in The Royle Family I have already included Ricky Tomlinson on my drafted 2023 shadow list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windsor 2,233 Posted November 30, 2022 Poor Lady Susan Hussey has been forced to retire because some idiot over appropriated her own culture to compensate for the fact that she is a boring Brit. The stress of it, and the disgrace, may have a detrimental impact on her health. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,130 Posted November 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Windsor said: Poor Lady Susan Hussey has been forced to retire because some idiot over appropriated her own culture to compensate for the fact that she is a boring Brit. The stress of it, and the disgrace, may have a detrimental impact on her health. I'm sick of this race baiting too. Why couldn't the woman answer a harmless question and say something like "My grandparents were from Nigeria (or wherever)". Since when was it racist, or offensive, to show a friendly interest in someone's ancestry? There's nothing to be ashamed of if your forebears were from overseas. This woman's social media shows that this has all the signs of being a set-up to embarrass the RF, and sadly Lady Susan fell into the trap. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 6,314 Posted November 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, Toast said: I'm sick of this race baiting too. Why couldn't the woman answer a harmless question and say something like "My grandparents were from Nigeria (or wherever)". Since when was it racist, or offensive, to show a friendly interest in someone's ancestry? There's nothing to be ashamed of if your forebears were from overseas. This woman's social media shows that this has all the signs of being a set-up to embarass the RF, and sadly Lady Susan fell into the trap. I do feel the same as you. Stupid thing to say but she shouldn`t become a pariah for it. As you say this was a trap clearly as Fulani could have answered her question even though it was clumsily expressed. The woman is 83 you can`t expect her to be in tune with all the ever-changing rules of what you can and can`t say. I`m 28 and I struggle with all the constant changes of what can and can`t be said. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,385 Posted November 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, Toast said: Why couldn't she answer a harmless question and say something like "My grandparents were from Nigeria (or wherever)". Since when was it racist, or offensive, to show a friendly interest in someone's ancestry? There's nothing to be ashamed of if your forebears were from overseas. This woman's social media shows that this has all the signs of being a set-up to embarrass the RF, and sadly Lady Susan fell into the trap. I won’t say I think there was any of the implied intent from Hussey, but the question can sometimes be legitimately taken as a micro-aggression, and many people of colour have had it so many times before where their answer of <somewhere in this country> isn’t accepted. As Sean said before me, the way it was expressed wasn’t good at all, but in this instance surely education would be more effective than cancellation? I don’t think there was any trap. I do think, however, that there have been multiple instances recently with the RF of, at best, pretty bad optics (eg. Camilla earlier in the week, Charles in the hand-shaking queue, William and Kate’s tone-deafness in the Caribbean earlier in the year), all of which minor and arguable but there is understandably more awareness of and reaction to things like this Hussey incident as a result. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windsor 2,233 Posted November 30, 2022 14 minutes ago, TQR said: I don’t think there was any trap. I do think, however, that there have been multiple instances recently with the RF of, at best, pretty bad optics (eg. Camilla earlier in the week, Charles in the hand-shaking queue, William and Kate’s tone-deafness in the Caribbean earlier in the year), all of which minor and arguable but there is understandably more awareness of and reaction to things like this Hussey incident as a result. Sadly some people live to be offended these days. They need to get over the fact that they’re black and realise that most white folks didn’t exactly have it too easy back in the olden days either. At least slaves had a value…my ancestors didn’t even have that. 2 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 6,314 Posted November 30, 2022 Just saw Fulani describe the altercation as "non physical violence" 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,577 Posted November 30, 2022 20 minutes ago, Windsor said: Sadly some people live to be offended these days. They need to get over the fact that they’re black and realise that most white folks didn’t exactly have it too easy back in the olden days either. At least slaves had a value…my ancestors didn’t even have that. #Windsor4PeaceEnvoy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,130 Posted November 30, 2022 43 minutes ago, TQR said: I won’t say I think there was any of the implied intent from Hussey, but the question can sometimes be legitimately taken as a micro-aggression, and many people of colour have had it so many times before where their answer of <somewhere in this country> isn’t accepted. As Sean said before me, the way it was expressed wasn’t good at all, but in this instance surely education would be more effective than cancellation? It was probably prompted by the colourful African costume that she was wearing. I would have assumed that she took pride in her heritage, and would very likely have asked about it myself. 43 minutes ago, TQR said: I don’t think there was any trap. I do think, however, that there have been multiple instances recently with the RF of, at best, pretty bad optics (eg. Camilla earlier in the week, Charles in the hand-shaking queue, William and Kate’s tone-deafness in the Caribbean earlier in the year), all of which minor and arguable but there is understandably more awareness of and reaction to things like this Hussey incident as a result. There is definitely a campaign among the Sussex fans to reinforce accusations of racism against the RF. I didn't follow the Caribbean visit, but the footage of Camilla at Barnardos was manipulated to suggest that she didn't want to touch the black child. If you look at the whole footage and not just the small clip, you see she has her arms round black children. When she picked up the little girl's sleeve, it was to admire her bracelet. As for Charles, he did reach back and shake that guy's hand when he realised he'd missed him. He used his left hand as he was moving on quite quickly. I don't think he even noticed whose hands he was shaking. This is all engineered because the Sussexes have been given an award for fighting racism in the Royal Family! Outrageous. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windsor 2,233 Posted November 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Toast said: It was probably prompted by the colourful African costume that she was wearing. I would have assumed that she took pride in her heritage, and would very likely have asked about it myself. It’s literally the equivalent of me dressing up like I’ve just fallen off a shortbread tin and then being absolutely astounded when people ask what clan I’m from. I don’t know either. Because I don’t have a clan and I’m not one of those twats who cares. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 6,314 Posted November 30, 2022 Why on earth the Palace thought it was a good idea to invite someone who said that the Duchess of Sussex was subjected to domestic violence by her in laws is beyond me.She clearly has an axe to grind. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 6,314 Posted November 30, 2022 Just a shame Phil the Greek wasn't alive to greet her yesterday. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,130 Posted November 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Sean said: Why on earth the Palace thought it was a good idea to invite someone who said that the Duchess of Sussex was subjected to domestic violence by her in laws is beyond me.She clearly has an axe to grind. I'm disappointed that they've caved in and issued such an abject apology too. Should have been more "Sorry if you were embarrassed by a friendly show of interest, but no offence was intended." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
time 8,595 Posted November 30, 2022 An alarming lack of empathy from some people here! 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 6,314 Posted November 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, Toast said: I'm disappointed that they've caved in and issued such an abject apology too. Should have been more "Sorry if you were embarrassed by a friendly show of interest, but no offence was intended." This is the only apology that will suffice for Fulani. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,385 Posted November 30, 2022 11 minutes ago, Toast said: There is definitely a campaign among the Sussex fans to reinforce accusations of racism against the RF. This is all engineered because the Sussexes have been given an award for fighting racism in the Royal Family! Oh for fuck sake, we’re not on the fucking Sussexes again Please, please, please, I implore you, just pretend they don’t exist. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windsor 2,233 Posted November 30, 2022 11 minutes ago, time said: An alarming lack of empathy from some people here! The only reason we should have empathy is if being of African descent is a taboo. Spoiler alert: it’s not. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites