markb4 892 Posted December 29, 2022 @John Key Can I sub my Pele for Jeanette Lee? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve 599 Posted December 29, 2022 John Key, I have replaced my number 19 Pele on my list with my first sub I had listed as Ted Turner, is this ok? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wannamaker 1,407 Posted December 29, 2022 My 2023 Shadowlist: 1 Pope Benedict XVI 2 Gianluca Vialli 3 Rolf Harris 4 Jimmy Carter 5 Rob Burrow 6 Henry Kissinger 7 Bob Barker 8 James Whale 9 King Constantine II of Greece 10 George Alagiah 11 Ryuichi Sakamoto 12 Frank Field 13 Roberta Flack 14 Jonnie Irwin 15 Ted Kaczynski 16 Randy Jackson (American Idol Judge) 17 Steve McMichael 18 Pervez Musharraf 19 Andy Taylor 20 Duke of Kent 21 Françoise Hardy 22 Linda Nolan 23 Shannen Doherty 24 Tony Bennett 25 James Earl Jones 26 Milan Kundera 27 Mahathir Mohamad 28 Giorgio Napolitano 29 Joanne Woodward 30 Martti Ahtisaari 31 Chaim Topol 32 Sir Bobby Charlton 33 Ratko Mladić 34 Ted Turner 35 Sandra Day O'Connor 36 James Watson 37 Norman Tebbit 38 Dennis Skinner 39 Ayatollah Ali Khamenei 40 Paul Hogan 41 Harry Belafonte 42 Rhod Gilbert 43 Robert Wagner 44 Alberto Fujimori 45 Buzz Aldrin 46 Alain Delon 47 Phil Collins 48 Tom Lehrer 49 Ozzy Osbourne 50 Vladimir Putin Subs: Ruth Buzzi Nigel Lawson Kate Keltie 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Key 747 Posted December 30, 2022 6 hours ago, markb4 said: @John Key Can I sub my Pele for Jeanette Lee? 5 hours ago, Steve said: John Key, I have replaced my number 19 Pele on my list with my first sub I had listed as Ted Turner, is this ok? Just sub it onto your list as an edit All lists will be pasted on 1st of January, all edits on your post here will be taken into account. If you don't know how to edit your post, a comment here will do, just check the masterlist and make sure your list is right (and I haven't gotten confused) after new years! @TQR pasted his list in another forum and tagged me in it, I will paste it as a comment now. TQR, if you make any changes to your list from now until 1st of January, just repost your comment here! Same if you want any subs (up to 5) Rolf Harris Pope Benedict XVI Gianluca Vialli James Whale Frank Field Tony Bennett George Alagiah Jonnie Irwin Katie Keltie Roberta Flack Joanne Woodward Jean-Marie Le Pen Jimmy Carter Rosalynn Carter Linda Nolan Janey Godley Andy Taylor Rhod Gilbert Shannen Doherty Rob Burrow Katherine Jackson Nigel Starmer-Smith Nigel Lawson Bobby Charlton Norman Tebbit Dennis Skinner Douglas Hurd Michael Parkinson Yoko Ono Liza Minnelli Chris Rea Mel Brooks Harry Belafonte Marianne Faithfull Pete Murray Michael Caine Clint Eastwood Robert Wagner James Earl Jones Prunella Scales Malcolm Hebden Eileen Derbyshire Phil Collins Shane MacGowan Tina Turner Mohamed Al-Fayed Lindsey Buckingham Elsie Kelly Ayatollah Ali Khamenei David Hamilton @diego @gcreptile your private message submissions are acknowledged and I will open them when I paste everyone elses lists. @Dying Probably apologies for not following the same protocol of not opening up messages, yours was the first and I wasn't thinking. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Key 747 Posted December 30, 2022 In all cases where Pele isn't edited before Janaury 1st, unless if told otherwise, I will assume your first sub will be active. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Famous6Eva 35 Posted December 30, 2022 1-Andrew Tate 2-Janey Godley 3-Bajrakitiyabha (Thai princess) 4-Sofia Gubaidulina 5-Pervez Musharraf 6-Nigel Starmer-Smith 7-Gérard Depardieu 8-Jonny Irwin 9-Sam Bankman-Fried 10-Tammy Slaton 11-Milan Kundera 12-Amanda Bynes 13-Wilson Fittipaldi Junior 14-Jean-Pierre Jabouille 15-Jessica Alves 16-Katie Keltie 17-Baroness Jane Campbell 18-Ryuichi Sakamoto 19-Marlene Mathews 20-Tim Lobinger 21-Jan Englert 22-Roberta Flack 23-Gianluca Vialli 24-Larisa Latynina 25-Chaim Topol 26-Brigitte Bardot 27-Norman Tebitt 28-Mario Zagallo 29-Milan Kucan 30-Jose Sarney 31-Pope Benedict 32-Marlyne Barrett 33-Ugo Mifsud Bonnici 34-Rick Ross 35-Ashley Fink 36-Galina Gorokhova 37-Ski Mask The Slump God 38-Frank McGarvey 39-Valdas Adamkus 40-Lynne Reid Banks 41-Ruth Buzzi 42-Fernanda Montenegro 43-Vivian Pickles 44-Lex Luger 45-Carlos Bilardo 46-Miso Kovac 47-Gilberto Gil 48-Laura Cardoso 49-Ricky Knight 50-Vigdis Finnbogadóttir subs Cesar Luis Menotti Marga Minco 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joltin Joe 149 Posted December 30, 2022 @John Key, I have edited Pele out for Ted Kaczynski. But I wanted to know if it was ok to change my list before the 31st using someone other than my 5 subs? If it isn't, I will replace Kaczynski with one of my 5 original subs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Key 747 Posted December 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Joltin Joe said: @John Key, I have edited Pele out for Ted Kaczynski. But I wanted to know if it was ok to change my list before the 31st using someone other than my 5 subs? If it isn't, I will replace Kaczynski with one of my 5 original subs. It is okay to change your list in any way before I put it onto the masterlist - it's why I'm not compiling everyones lists until the fireworks start. Any other attempted changes may be considered. Late submissions will also be considered (just like last year) as long as they can't be argued to be using information from 2023 to have an advantage. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MortalCaso 1,625 Posted December 30, 2022 1. Jimmy Carter 2. Rolf Harris 3. Rosalynn Carter 4. Bob Barker 5. Henry Kissinger 6. Dick van Dyke 7. Tony Bennett 8. Henry Belafonte 9. Clint Eastwood 10. Bobby Charlton 11. Ted Kaczynski 12. James Whale 13. Prunella Scales 14. Norman Tebbit 15. Douglas Hurd 16. Andy Taylor 17. Joss Ackland 18. Linda Ronstadt 19. Milan Kundera 20. Frank Field 21. Silvio Berlusconi 22. Michael Gambon 23. David Crosby 24. Noam Chomsky 25. Stanely Baxter 26. Burt Bacharach 27. Denis Law 28. Jacques Delors 29. Cleo Laine 30. Jean-Marie Le Pen 31. Desmond Morris 32. Sandy Gall 33. June Spencer 34. David Attenborough 35. Mel Brooks 36. Pope Francis 37. Nigel Starmer-Smith 38. Alan Greenspan 39. Pope Benedict XVI 40. Liza Minnelli 41. Barbara Walters 42. James Earl Jones 43. Robert Wagner 44. Joanne Woodward 45. Jonnie Irwin 46. Ruth Buzzi 47. Sandra Day O'Connor 48. Benjamin Ferencz 49. Pervez Musharraf 50. Joseph James DeAngelo Jr. Sub 1: Dick Cheney Sub 2: Albert Harold Quie 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Key 747 Posted December 30, 2022 2 hours ago, MortalCaso said: 50. Lucille Randon Candidates cannot be famous solely for the fact they are likely to die imminently - this includes people famous only for their advanced age. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MortalCaso 1,625 Posted December 30, 2022 19 minutes ago, John Key said: Candidates cannot be famous solely for the fact they are likely to die imminently - this includes people famous only for their advanced age. Apologies. Missed that one! Fixed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Key 747 Posted December 30, 2022 (edited) Thanks for hosting, here's my list Pope Benedict XVI Rolf Harris Randy Jackson Anastasia Zavorotnyuk Frank Field George Alagiah Ted Kaczynski Rowshan Ershad Andy Taylor David J. Linden Jonnie Irwin Rhod Gilbert James Whale Pauline Kana Julie Walters Ryan O’Neal Liza Minnelli Vanessa Redgrave Khaleda Zia Linda Nolan Tony Bennett Derek Draper Miloš Zeman Josip Manolić Jimmy Tarbuck Prunella Scales Linda Ronstadt Jimmy Carter William Russell Joan Plowright Dick Van Dyke Bob Barker Henry Kissinger Rosalynn Carter Vladimir Putin Patricia Routledge Betty Boothroyd Joss Ackland Jean-Marie Le Pen Barbara Walters Marita Camacho Quirós Harry Belafonte Giorgio Napolitano Raúl Castro Valentine Strasser Imelda Marcos June Spencer Eva Marie Saint Jacques Delors Norman Tebbit Subs: Shannon Doherty Constantine II of Greece Donald Trump Joe Biden Ben Ferencz Edited December 30, 2022 by John Key More Rolf Harris, less Zelenskyy 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,388 Posted December 30, 2022 16 minutes ago, John Key said: Thanks for hosting, here's my list Good old bit of thanking yourself there 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Murdoc 18 Posted December 30, 2022 Apologies, new to dead pools. But can we still post our entries? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Key 747 Posted December 30, 2022 32 minutes ago, Murdoc said: Apologies, new to dead pools. But can we still post our entries? Yes! Welcome Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuffaloPhil 926 Posted December 30, 2022 I'll have a crack at this one for the first time. Thanks for running it, John. 1. Ady Barkan 2. Alan Greenspan 3. Alice Munro 4. Alix Princess Napoleon 5. Andras Biro (Hungarian activist) 6. Andy Taylor 7. Benjamin Ferencz 8. Bill Butler (cinematographer) 9. Bob Barker 10. David Graham (actor) 11. Diana Armfield 12. Dick Cheney 13. Eva Marie Saint 14. Francoise Hardy 15. Frank Field 16. George Alagiah 17. Gianluca Vialli 18. Gina Lollobrigida 19. Glynis Johns 20. Guido Gorgatti 21. Hazel McCallion 22. Jack Burke Jr. 23. Jacqueline White 24. James L. Buckley 25. James Whale (DJ) 26. Janis Paige 27. Joanne Woodward 28. John Cannan 29. Johnny Ruffo 30. Jonnie Irwin 31. Josef Fritzl 32. Kate Keltie 33. Louis Farrakhan 34. Nigel Starmer-Smith 35. Peter Max 36. Pope Benedict XVI 37. Prunella Scales 38. Ray Anthony 39. Rhod Gilbert 40. Rob Burrow 41. Roberta Flack 42. Rosalynn Carter 43. Sandra Day O'Connor 44. Steve Gleason 45. Steve McMichael 46. Ted Kaczynski 47. Tina Turner 48. Tony Bennett 49. Vic Seixas 50. Violeta Chamorro subs Barbara Walters Chaim Topol Henry Kissinger Jacques Delors Ruth Buzzi 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheKestrelofDoom 21 Posted December 30, 2022 First attempt at a DL of my own, even though I've been knocking about on here since the noughties. 1. Vlad Putin 2. Frank Field MP 3. Clint Eastwood 4. Jimmy Carter 5. Henry Kissinger 6. Norman Tebbitt 7. Rob Burrow 8. Vlad Zelenskyy 9. Jean Marie Le Pen 10. Mitch McConnell 11. James Earl Jones 12.Ray Reardon 13. Yoko Ono 14. Sarah Kennedy 15. Rolf Harris 16. . Richard Wilson 17. David Hockney 18. Dennis Skinner 19. .Ozzy Osbourne 20. .Ester Rantzen 21. Paul Gambaccini 22. Andrew Tate 23. Arthur Scargill (was Pope Benedict) 24..Cliff Richard 25. David Jason 26. Henry Kelly 27. Shane McGowan 28. Dick Van Dyke 29. Sandy Gall 30.Cleo Laine 31. Noam Chomsky 32. Douglas Hurd 33. Tony Blackburn 34. Chris Denning (former Radio 1) 35. Jonathan King 36. Engelbert Humperdinck 37 . Wenche Myhre 38. Phil Collins 39. Diana Ross 40. Robert Plant 41. Diane Fienstein 42. Dan Quayle 43 James Addison Baker[ 44. Nicholas F. Brady 45. Eric Burdon 46. Steven Berkoff 47. Debbie Harry 48. Tina Turner 49. Mel Brooks 50. King Charles Sub - Michael J Fox 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
six feet blunder 161 Posted December 30, 2022 Think my 1st sub for Pele is Roy Hattersley bet that never happened before 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted December 30, 2022 1. Caren Marsh Doll 2. June Spencer 3. Eleanor Collins 4. Elizabeth Kelly 5. Ray Anthony 6. Henry Kissinger 7. Jim Norton 8. Mel Brooks 9. Harry Belafonte 10. Bernie Ecclestone 11. Don King 12. Yoko Ono 13. Princess Katharine 14. Roman Polanski 15. Jimmy Carter 16. Rolf Harris 17. Dick Van Dyke 18. Orenthal James Simpson 19. Frankie Valli 20. Emperor Akihito 21. Eva Marie Saint 22. Elisabeth Waldo 23. Kim Novak 24. Sir David Attenborough 25. Dame Joan Collins 26. Prunella Scales 27. Michael Parkinson 28. Barry Gibb 29. Clive Everton 30. Burt Bacharach 31. Tom Baker 32. Sir Anthony Hopkins 33. Janis Paige 34. Roy Chubby Brown 35. Ray Reardon 36. Eric Idle 37. Dame Judi Dench 38. Pope Benedict XVI 39. Bob Barker 40. Roberta Flack 41. Paul Hogan 42. Iggy Pop 43. Steven Tyler 44. Linda Nolan 45. Patricia Routledge 46. Mohamed Al-Fayed 47. Michael Aspel 48. Jane Fonda 49. Arnold Yarrow 50. Doreen Mantle Subs: Eddy Goldfarb Ebrahim Golestan Bert I Gordon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Key 747 Posted December 31, 2022 @tracy submitted her entry on the Shadowlists page. Any revisions just repaste your list here. Henry Kissinger Bob Barker Pope Benedict XVI Jimmy Carter Rolf Harris Tony Bennett Alan Greenspan Joanne Woodward Gianluca Vialli Harry Belafonte Roberta Flack Eva Marie Saint Dick Van Dyke Burt Bacharach Robert Wagner Mel Brooks Milan Kundera Rosalynn Carter Joss Ackland Bob Newhart Tina Turner Sandra Day O'Connor James Earl Jones Mahathir Mohamad Sonny Rollins June Lockhart Ryuichi Sakamoto Ruth Buzzi Glynis Johns Lee Grant James Whale Estelle Parsons Norman Jewison Jean-Marie Le Pen Manmohan Singh Louis Gossett Jr. Ann Blyth Roger Corman Jacques Delors Ted Kaczynski June Squibb Gene Hackman Chaim Topol Toby Keith Frederic Forrest Tim Curry Andy Taylor Ted Turner Constantine II of Greece David Attenborough Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Key 747 Posted December 31, 2022 On 30/12/2022 at 00:28, Redrumours said: 2023 SHADOWS. I-JIMMY CARTER 2-JONNIE IRWIN 3-JAMES WHALE 4-BRUCE WILLIS 5-GEORGE ALAGIAH 6-JOSH AKLAND 7-JOANNE WOODWARD 8-GIANLUCA VIALLI 9-DICKIE BIRD 10-TIPPI HEDREN 11-NIGEL LAWSON 12-GEORGE EASTHAM 13-DAVID ATTENBOROUGH 14-GLORIA HUNNIFORD 15-OZZY OSBOURNE 16-DOUGLAS HURD 17-MICHAEL PARKINSON 18-EILEEN DERBYSHIRE 19-P/J PROBY 20-MARION ROSS 21-POPE BENEDICT XV1 22-BRENDA LEE 23-IMELDA MARCOS 24-YOKO ONO 25-PETE MURRAY 26-DUKE OF KENT 27-DUCHESS OF KENT 28-PATRICIA ROUTLEDGE 29-ROB BURROW 30-NEIL FRASER 31-PAUL HENRY 32-ROSALYNN CARTER 33-HENRY KISSINGER 34-KENNETH COPE 35-GERMAINE GREER 36-RON YEATS 37-BOBBY CHARLTON 38-PAT BOONE 39-BOB HARRIS 40-ROLF HARRIS 41-TONY BENNETT 42-MALCOLM HEBDEN 43-BILL GILES 44-JACK NICKLAUS 45-POPE FRANCIS 46-DANNIELLA WESTBROOK 47-JANE ROSSIGTON 48-VLADIMIR PUTIN 49-FRANK FIELD 50- SIDNEY COOKE Looks like a competitive list. Aside from the annoying capital letters (which would be cool if you could change before I add it onto the masterlist) I also see some obvious spelling errors which will result in your picks being missed when I add them on - e.g. John Ackland, Jane Rossington, XV1 (okay XV1 probably wouldn't make my search miss it but it's incorrect ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Key 747 Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) This competition's masterlist will be compiled now. Changes after that aren't against the rules, but will need to be justified and agreed to by me --- I welcome scrutiny from other members for changes or new lists that use new information or seem to be in bad faith. New changes or new lists should be made through a new comment. (I think I've said something about until after the fireworks, but I think it would be better right now to avoid any potential 1st of January controversy) Any lists or changes made using information that was only available at "a later time (e.g. 2023)" will he heavily scrutinised and may result in disqualification of picks - so don't push my leniency I'll put a strict line in the sand as time goes on for no more changes, but I won't formally acknowledge a date for this despite having one in mind - past January 1st is more than generous. This is primarily for new lists to be submitted - last year there were more than a few late entries which I am more than happy to accomodate for. I'll continue keeping an eye and being busy on this site for the next week before I plan to go on holiday. Most importantly, thank you for participating - I enjoyed this last year and look forward to the competition this year. Good luck all! Edited December 31, 2022 by John Key Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Daredevil 1,189 Posted December 31, 2022 1 hour ago, John Key said: This competition's masterlist will be compiled now. Changes after that aren't against the rules, but will need to be justified and agreed to by me @John Key So, I take it I can add my shadowlist to this competition without scrutiny as long as it is uploaded before 1st January UK time, eventhough the masterlist has already been compiled. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Key 747 Posted December 31, 2022 9 minutes ago, The Daredevil said: @John Key So, I take it I can add my shadowlist to this competition without scrutiny as long as it is uploaded before 1st January UK time, eventhough the masterlist has already been compiled. I will be tracking times that people submit their list starting in 80 minutes, which is new years in my time zone. "Tracking times" doesn't mean anything, it shouldn't handicap you. I've never formally rejected a late submission, just that if someone dies early in the year it could be up for discussion. So I wouldn't say without scrutiny, but it shouldn't matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LWCZ 188 Posted December 31, 2022 20 hours ago, John Key said: 40. Barbara Walters A quick heads up, Barbara Walters died today age 93 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
