msc 18,438 Posted July 4 13 minutes ago, Clorox Bleachman said: Charles Kennedy drank himself to death within a few weeks of losing his seat in 2015. He was actually getting himself together after being off the wagon for ages during the coalition but it was too late. Before your time, Clorox but popular young Paisley MP Gordon McMaster killed himself shortly after the 1997 election. It turned out he had been in the closet over his homosexuality and been blackmailed by another labour MP, Tommy Graham, whom McMaster had looked up to. Very sad story. That seat became Mhairi Black's years later, incidentally. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,966 Posted July 4 3 hours ago, The Old Crem said: I think higher turnout means that Reform will have a strong result. It's similar to a lot of elections in other countries where the rising divide increases turnout. I also believe that there are "shy reform" voters instead of "shy tories". Yes, I do think the Tories will get pretty much destroyed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sly Ronnie 879 Posted July 4 14 minutes ago, RoverAndOut said: While we're in this pre-exit poll lull, just a couple of thoughts from re-watching the 1997 coverage recently: There was discussion about how little and vague the Labour manifesto was, and how this would make it difficult to govern as they didn't have a mandate to do very much. There was also (which surprised me) discussion of how there wasn't a great deal of enthusiasm about Labour winning, more about the Tories losing (sound familiar?). A recognition that voters had voted tactically in greater numbers than ever before, to really punish the Tories. Discussions about how the splits in the Tory Party had damaged the brand, with one side claiming they were right that Major was leading them to defeat and the other claiming it was these naysayers that had made the defeat so bad. There were probably more parallels but it was a couple of weeks ago now and I can't remember it all quite so vividly. Doesn't feel so different after all, hoping for a similar result tonight and a similar outcome over the next 4-5 years. History doesn't repeat but it does rhyme. From what I recall, that what was being said about Labour, that there was a lack of enthusiasm etc. But when it did become this humongous majority, it did change the temperature a bit and there was more expectation and dare I say euphoria upon the scale of victory. If Labour had squeaked in with a bare majority, then that narrative about a lack of enthusiasm for the new government would have been maintained. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,033 Posted July 4 And so. Sky begins its coverage. Settle in. I may briefly flip to the BBC just at 10 to see the exit poll results. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,645 Posted July 4 1 minute ago, YoungWillz said: And so. Sky begins its coverage. Settle in. I may briefly flip to the BBC just at 10 to see the exit poll results. You and me both re that exit poll, then earlyish night and awake to much toast for breakfast 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Father Brown 209 Posted July 4 I'm set. I'll probably stick to Sky. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sly Ronnie 879 Posted July 4 Sky, BBC and even LBC! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad252 807 Posted July 4 1 hour ago, TQR said: Reform Ltd. being dishonest? No way! Erm... This led to some good parodies, like this one: https://x.com/supertanskiii/status/1808634584176677122 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Father Brown 209 Posted July 4 Sky has a CGI Larry! Beat that! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,033 Posted July 4 1 minute ago, Father Brown said: Sky has a CGI Larry! Beat that! I'm sure at the BBC they are going to CGI an impartial face onto Laura K. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCI Frank Burnside 3,887 Posted July 4 14 minutes ago, The Old Crem said: Theresa Coffey made a Dame Oliver Dowden, Ben Wallace and Julian Smith given knighthoods https://www.gov.uk/government/news/dissolution-honours-2024 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCI Frank Burnside 3,887 Posted July 4 May first Ex-PM into the HoL since Thatcher I think Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,033 Posted July 4 Just now, DCI Frank Burnside said: May first Ex-PM into the HoL since Thatcher I think Cameron? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad252 807 Posted July 4 5 minutes ago, DCI Frank Burnside said: May first Ex-PM into the HoL since Thatcher I think 4 minutes ago, YoungWillz said: Cameron? May the first one who wasn't rushed in to shore up someone's ailing position. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,033 Posted July 4 Don't know why, this has started playing in my head: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCI Frank Burnside 3,887 Posted July 4 14 minutes ago, YoungWillz said: Cameron? Oh fuck yeah. Had forgotten for some odd reason 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,033 Posted July 4 4 minutes ago, DCI Frank Burnside said: Oh fuck yeah. Had forgotten for some odd reason Easy to blank the fucker from memory tbh. Then you remember.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Commtech Sio Bibble 2,028 Posted July 4 4 minutes ago, DCI Frank Burnside said: Oh fuck yeah. Had forgotten for some odd reason I had too, to be fair it wasn't a direct promotion, he took 7 years off to do some lobbying whilst shagging a pig on a remote beach in Spain. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philheybrookbay1 247 Posted July 4 I feel really nervous. 9 mins to exit poll... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,386 Posted July 4 Got the butterflies. Five mins until exit poll! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuffaloPhil 926 Posted July 4 LAB 410 to CON 131 exit poll result Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
