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15.12.2023

 

55 Greg Lake — I Believe In Father Christmas

50 The Pretenders — 2000 Miles  

49 Bing Crosby — White Christmas

46 Andy Williams — It’s The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year   +6

47 Wizzard — I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday   -9

46 The Pogues ft. Kirsty MacColl — Fairytale Of New York

44 The Ronettes — Sleigh Ride

42 Jona Lewie — Stop The Cavalry

41 Ray Conniff — Carol Of The Bells

39 Brenda Lee — Rockin’ Around The Christmas Tree

38 Bobby Helms — Jingle Bell Rock 

23 Wham! — Last Christmas

23 Kate Bush — December Will Be Magic Again

22 Bing Crosby & The Andrews Sisters — Mele Kalikimaka

13 Nat King Cole — The Christmas Song (Merry Christmas To You)

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December 15th at 126am

 

55 Greg Lake — I Believe In Father Christmas

50 The Pretenders — 2000 Miles  

49 Bing Crosby — White Christmas

46 Andy Williams — It’s The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year  

47 Wizzard — I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday  

46 The Pogues ft. Kirsty MacColl — Fairytale Of New York

44 The Ronettes — Sleigh Ride

42 Jona Lewie — Stop The Cavalry

41 Ray Conniff — Carol Of The Bells

39 Brenda Lee — Rockin’ Around The Christmas Tree

38 Bobby Helms — Jingle Bell Rock 

29 Wham! — Last Christmas +6

23 Kate Bush — December Will Be Magic Again

13 Bing Crosby & The Andrews Sisters — Mele Kalikimaka -9

13 Nat King Cole — The Christmas Song (Merry Christmas To You) 

We already have Bing locked in up there.

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15/12/23

 

55 Greg Lake — I Believe In Father Christmas

50 The Pretenders — 2000 Miles  

49 Bing Crosby — White Christmas

46 Andy Williams — It’s The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year  

47 Wizzard — I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday  

46 The Pogues ft. Kirsty MacColl — Fairytale Of New York

44 The Ronettes — Sleigh Ride

42 Jona Lewie — Stop The Cavalry

41 Ray Conniff — Carol Of The Bells

39 Brenda Lee — Rockin’ Around The Christmas Tree

38 Bobby Helms — Jingle Bell Rock 

35 Wham! — Last Christmas +6

23 Kate Bush — December Will Be Magic Again

13 Nat King Cole — The Christmas Song (Merry Christmas To You) 

4 Bing Crosby & The Andrews Sisters — Mele Kalikimaka -9

 

Think we're probably about there now in terms of top 12. Getting rid of Bing for the same reason as lilham and much as I love Kate and Nat, not sure what of the top 12 they'd dislodge.

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I’m disappointed to see Slade out already. To me, nothing quite captures the existential horror of the festive season better than the terrifying slide from Bm to the ominous B flat in the chorus, and its repetition 37 times in the coda confirms it. Noddy’s final bloodcurdling scream of desperation is the icing on the Christmas cake that’s been left out in the snow. Philosophically speaking, can the future have ‘only just begun’?

 

Otherwise, I think it’s a pretty fair selection. I guess as a song I like 2000 Miles best, but Pogues or Greg would be worthy champs too.

 

That Ray Conniff song gets pretty intense eh.

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December Will Be Magic has suffered from not being on many compilation albums. I think I bought my daughter at least three different Now Christmas albums over the years and it was on none of them. I did eventually find a compilation with it on which my Brother-in-law had but that was so old it contained Another Rock and Roll Christmas

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5/12/2023

 

55 Greg Lake — I Believe In Father Christmas

52 The Pogues ft. Kirsty MacColl — Fairytale Of New York +6

50 The Pretenders — 2000 Miles  

49 Bing Crosby — White Christmas

46 Andy Williams — It’s The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year  

47 Wizzard — I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday  

44 The Ronettes — Sleigh Ride

42 Jona Lewie — Stop The Cavalry

41 Ray Conniff — Carol Of The Bells

39 Brenda Lee — Rockin’ Around The Christmas Tree

35 Wham! — Last Christmas 

33 Bobby Helms — Jingle Bell Rock -5

23 Kate Bush — December Will Be Magic Again

13 Nat King Cole — The Christmas Song (Merry Christmas To You) 

00 Bing Crosby & The Andrews Sisters — Mele Kalikimaka -4

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15/12/23 08:29 hrs 

 

54 Greg Lake — I Believe In Father Christmas -1

52 The Pogues ft. Kirsty MacColl — Fairytale Of New York 

52 Wizzard — I Wish it could be Christmas Every Day +5

50 The Pretenders — 2000 Miles  

49 Bing Crosby — White Christmas

46 Andy Williams — It’s The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year  

45 The Ronettes — Sleigh Ride +1

39 Ray Conniff — Carol Of The Bells -2

39 Brenda Lee — Rockin’ Around The Christmas Tree

36 Jona Lewie — Stop the Cavalry -6

35 Wham! — Last Christmas 

33 Bobby Helms — Jingle Bell Rock 

23 Kate Bush — December Will Be Magic Again

13 Nat King Cole — The Christmas Song (Merry Christmas To You) 

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20 minutes ago, Bibliogryphon said:

Another Rock and Roll Christmas

 

I considered including this one but it didn't make the final cut. i thought it'd not be a great look if it did well. 

 

I would've swapped the two Bing songs around personally but I'm pleasantly surprised that a little bit of Hawaiian Christmas did so well.

 

3 songs dropped already today. 2 to go until the final.

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12/15/23

 

54 Greg Lake — I Believe In Father Christmas

52 The Pogues ft. Kirsty MacColl — Fairytale Of New York 

52 Wizzard — I Wish it could be Christmas Every Day

50 The Pretenders — 2000 Miles  

49 Bing Crosby — White Christmas

46 Andy Williams — It’s The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year  

45 The Ronettes — Sleigh Ride

39 Ray Conniff — Carol Of The Bells

39 Brenda Lee — Rockin’ Around The Christmas Tree

38 Wham! — Last Christmas   +3

36 Jona Lewie — Stop the Cavalry

36 Bobby Helms — Jingle Bell Rock  +3

14 Kate Bush — December Will Be Magic Again  -9

13 Nat King Cole — The Christmas Song (Merry Christmas To You) 

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15/12

54 Greg Lake — I Believe In Father Christmas

52 The Pogues ft. Kirsty MacColl — Fairytale Of New York 

52 Wizzard — I Wish it could be Christmas Every Day

50 The Pretenders — 2000 Miles  

49 Bing Crosby — White Christmas

46 Andy Williams — It’s The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year  

45 The Ronettes — Sleigh Ride

39 Ray Conniff — Carol Of The Bells

39 Brenda Lee — Rockin’ Around The Christmas Tree

39 Jona Lewie — Stop the Cavalry +3

36 Bobby Helms — Jingle Bell Rock  

29 Wham! — Last Christmas   -9

17 Kate Bush — December Will Be Magic Again  +3

13 Nat King Cole — The Christmas Song (Merry Christmas To You) 

 

Don't particularly like the Kate Bush track but still prefer it to Last Christmas.

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At this point it’s easier to vote down than up.  It’ll be nearly impossible to give negative points to some of these songs in 48 hours (though we must).  However, I think we all can see 5 songs or so that are lingering that just don’t rate.  Sadly we aren’t all seeing the same 5 songs lol.  But if I’m asked to pick between Andy Williams and Bing Crosby my head might explode.

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15/12/23 6:23am

 

55 The Pogues ft. Kirsty MacColl — Fairytale Of New York +3

54 Greg Lake — I Believe In Father Christmas

50 The Pretenders — 2000 Miles  

49 Bing Crosby — White Christmas 

49 Andy Williams — It’s The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year +3

45 The Ronettes — Sleigh Ride

43 Wizzard — I Wish it could be Christmas Every Day -9

39 Ray Conniff — Carol Of The Bells

39 Brenda Lee — Rockin’ Around The Christmas Tree

39 Jona Lewie — Stop the Cavalry

36 Bobby Helms — Jingle Bell Rock  

29 Wham! — Last Christmas 

17 Kate Bush — December Will Be Magic Again

13 Nat King Cole — The Christmas Song (Merry Christmas To You) 

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12/15/2023

 

55 The Pogues ft. Kirsty MacColl — Fairytale Of New York

54 Greg Lake — I Believe In Father Christmas

50 The Pretenders — 2000 Miles  

49 Bing Crosby — White Christmas 

49 Andy Williams — It’s The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year

48 The Ronettes — Sleigh Ride +3

46 Wizzard — I Wish it could be Christmas Every Day +3

39 Ray Conniff — Carol Of The Bells

39 Brenda Lee — Rockin’ Around The Christmas Tree

39 Jona Lewie — Stop the Cavalry

36 Bobby Helms — Jingle Bell Rock  

20 Wham! — Last Christmas -9

17 Kate Bush — December Will Be Magic Again

13 Nat King Cole — The Christmas Song (Merry Christmas To You) 

 

Don't feel too strongly about who rounds off the 12, so might as well make it look interesting for a few more hours

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12/15/2023

 

55 The Pogues ft. Kirsty MacColl — Fairytale Of New York

54 Greg Lake — I Believe In Father Christmas

50 The Pretenders — 2000 Miles  

49 Bing Crosby — White Christmas 

49 Andy Williams — It’s The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year

48 The Ronettes — Sleigh Ride 

46 Wizzard — I Wish it could be Christmas Every Day 

39 Ray Conniff — Carol Of The Bells

39 Brenda Lee — Rockin’ Around The Christmas Tree

36 Bobby Helms — Jingle Bell Rock  

30 Jona Lewie — Stop the Cavalry -9

22 Kate Bush — December Will Be Magic Again +5

21 Wham! — Last Christmas +1

13 Nat King Cole — The Christmas Song (Merry Christmas To You) 

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12/15/2023

 

55 The Pogues ft. Kirsty MacColl — Fairytale Of New York

54 Greg Lake — I Believe In Father Christmas

51 Andy Williams — It’s The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year +2

50 The Pretenders — 2000 Miles  

49 Bing Crosby — White Christmas 

48 The Ronettes — Sleigh Ride 

46 Wizzard — I Wish it could be Christmas Every Day 

39 Ray Conniff — Carol Of The Bells

39 Brenda Lee — Rockin’ Around The Christmas Tree

36 Bobby Helms — Jingle Bell Rock  

25 Jona Lewie — Stop the Cavalry -5

23 Wham! — Last Christmas +2

18 Kate Bush — December Will Be Magic Again -4

15 Nat King Cole — The Christmas Song (Merry Christmas To You) +2

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5 hours ago, Bibliogryphon said:

December Will Be Magic has suffered from not being on many compilation albums.

 

It rates as my most disappointing Christmas song. It lacks a melody and her voice goes all over the place, it's just weird and unsettling. 

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14 minutes ago, Toast said:

 

It rates as my most disappointing Christmas song. It lacks a melody and her voice goes all over the place, it's just weird and unsettling. 

 

There are a couple of different versions. There is a calypso type version that is a complete mess but the single version is all warm hugs and snowflakes

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10 hours ago, harrymcnallysblueandwhitearmy said:

I’m disappointed to see Slade out already. To me, nothing quite captures the existential horror of the festive season better than the terrifying slide from Bm to the ominous B flat in the chorus, and its repetition 37 times in the coda confirms it. Noddy’s final bloodcurdling scream of desperation is the icing on the Christmas cake that’s been left out in the snow. Philosophically speaking, can the future have ‘only just begun’?

 

Philosophically speaking, it is always just beginning. What is happening now is the present, what happens in 5 minutes' time is the future. I suppose the bigger question is whether you can refer to it in the past tense of "just begun" because if it just begun, it's now the present, not the future. 

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10 minutes ago, RoverAndOut said:

Philosophically speaking, it is always just beginning. What is happening now is the present, what happens in 5 minutes' time is the future.


Yeah, so it’s another slightly pointless filler lyric. Mind, it’s not as pointless as one of the guys in the Beach Boys song singing “Christmas comes this time each year”…yeah no shit mate.

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2 minutes ago, TQR said:


Yeah, so it’s another slightly pointless filler lyric. Mind, it’s not as pointless as one of the guys in the Beach Boys song singing “Christmas comes this time each year”…yeah no shit mate.

 

I like the Beach Boys. I enjoy Christmas songs. I don't want surf pop at Christmas though.

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1 hour ago, RoverAndOut said:

 

Philosophically speaking, it is always just beginning. What is happening now is the present, what happens in 5 minutes' time is the future. I suppose the bigger question whether you can refer to it in the past tense of "just begun" because if it just begun, it's now the present, not the future. 

Yes, that was my point. A key component of Noddy’s theory of relativity, along with ‘elderly relatives will always complain about modern music being rubbish’.

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15th December

 

55 The Pogues ft. Kirsty MacColl — Fairytale Of New York

54 Greg Lake — I Believe In Father Christmas

50 The Pretenders — 2000 Miles  

49 Bing Crosby — White Christmas 

48 The Ronettes — Sleigh Ride 

48 Andy Williams — It’s The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year -3

46 Wizzard — I Wish it could be Christmas Every Day 

45 Ray Conniff — Carol Of The Bells +6

39 Brenda Lee — Rockin’ Around The Christmas Tree

36 Bobby Helms — Jingle Bell Rock

25 Jona Lewie — Stop the Cavalry

18 Kate Bush — December Will Be Magic Again

17 Wham! — Last Christmas -6

15 Nat King Cole — The Christmas Song (Merry Christmas To You)

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15th December

 

55 The Pogues ft. Kirsty MacColl — Fairytale Of New York

54 Greg Lake — I Believe In Father Christmas

50 The Pretenders — 2000 Miles  

49 Bing Crosby — White Christmas 

48 The Ronettes — Sleigh Ride 

48 Andy Williams — It’s The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year 

46 Wizzard — I Wish it could be Christmas Every Day 

39 Brenda Lee — Rockin’ Around The Christmas Tree

36 Bobby Helms — Jingle Bell Rock

36 Ray Conniff — Carol Of The Bells -9

31 Jona Lewie — Stop the Cavalry +6

18 Kate Bush — December Will Be Magic Again

17 Wham! — Last Christmas 

15 Nat King Cole — The Christmas Song (Merry Christmas To You)

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15 hours ago, harrymcnallysblueandwhitearmy said:

That Ray Conniff song gets pretty intense eh.

 

I'd missed that one. Fuckinell, that's dreadful.

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16/12/23

 

55 The Pogues ft. Kirsty MacColl — Fairytale Of New York

54 Greg Lake — I Believe In Father Christmas

50 The Pretenders — 2000 Miles  

49 Bing Crosby — White Christmas 

48 The Ronettes — Sleigh Ride 

48 Andy Williams — It’s The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year 

46 Wizzard — I Wish it could be Christmas Every Day 

39 Brenda Lee — Rockin’ Around The Christmas Tree

37 Jona Lewie — Stop the Cavalry +6

36 Bobby Helms — Jingle Bell Rock

36 Ray Conniff — Carol Of The Bells 

17 Wham! — Last Christmas 

15 Nat King Cole — The Christmas Song (Merry Christmas To You)

09 Kate Bush — December Will Be Magic Again -9

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