TQR 14,196 Posted 10 hours ago Air hairlair. Welcome to, gosh, the FIFTEENTH edition of Kill or Save! As we continue to slam through the UK charts through the decades, we arrive here: the last decade (until 2030 at least) of No.1s to sort through. Except it’s actually the first decade, for we travel back to a sepia time where the Singles Charts as we know them were born: the 1950s. It was an education sorting through this list. Back then, you actually had songs tied on sales, which involved people going to actual shops and everything. And 90% of the entries were by someone “And His Orchestra”, much of which I’ve painstakingly edited out. Different times innit. Of course, you won’t be expected to know all these singles from 65+ years ago - that’d be a stretch even for our cherished player theoldlady - so you might need a little familiarisation session. Don’t worry though, it’s a much smaller list than the last game. Fancy reliving all the action? See below for links to all Kill or Save games to date: 50s No.1s (you are here); 60s No.1s; 70s No.1s; 80s No.1s; 90s No.1s; 00s No.1s; 10s No.1s 60s No.2s; 70s No.2s; 80s No.2s; 90s No.2s; 00s No. 2s 70s No.3s; 80s No.3s (IN PLAY!) Christmas Special 2023 KoS HoF The Rolling Stones — Paint It, Black Donna Summer — I Feel Love Nena — 99 Red Balloons Madonna — Vogue Gorillaz — Dare Gotye ft. Kimbra — Somebody That I Used To Know The Pogues ft. Kirsty MacColl — Fairytale Of New York Barry Ryan — Eloise Queen — Somebody To Love A-Ha — Take On Me The Cardigans — Lovefool Sophie Ellis-Bextor — Murder On The Dancefloor David Bowie — Life On Mars? Rules here, purely for me to quote if you break them: Each song starts with 20 points (whether it deserves it or not). You can vote once a day. Since we all live in different parts of the world with all sorts of different timezones, please add a date at the top of your votes to avoid any confusion (e.g. Thu 25 Jul, 25/7/24, 7/25/24 if you’re a wrongun). Each day you may add up to 4 points to and subtract 6 points from any song on the board. You can split your points between as many songs as you like. You must use all six minus points (unless it’s a round-ending turn) and give at least one plus point. Placeholder posts are allowed, but if you don't edit your votes within 5 minutes, then the next person can go and do their votes. Consecutive votes are not allowed. Before voting, please listen to the songs of each round and vote according to your own opinions, don't vote for songs because they're high/low on the board or because of your opinions about the artist, only the song matters. Make sure you copy and paste the most recent voter's scoreboard when you take your turn to score. For your own ease, ‘paste as plain text’ to get rid of the previous poster’s formatting. Then, delete their +/- scores, add yours, adjust the song’s points total and make your scores bold. Here’s a random example post from a previous game’s finale: See, below, the dinky little list of 94 UK No.1 songs from the 1950s: Spoiler 11 Nov 1952 - Al Martino — Here In My Heart 13 Jan 1953 - Jo Stafford — You Belong To Me 20 Jan 1953 - Kay Starr — Comes A-Long A-Love 27 Jan 1953 - Eddie Fisher — Outside Of Heaven 3 Feb 1953 - Perry Como & The Ramblers — Don’t Let The Stars Get In Your Eyes 10 Mar 1953 - Guy Mitchell — She Wears Red Feathers 7 Apr 1953 - The Stargazers — Broken Wings 14 Apr 1953 - Lita Roza — How Much Is That Doggie In The Window 21 Apr 1953 - Frankie Laine — I Believe 23 Jun 1953 - Eddie Fisher ft. Sally Sweetland — I’m Walking Behind You 11 Aug 1953 - Mantovani — The Song From The Moulin Rouge 8 Sep 1953 - Guy Mitchell — Look At That Girl 20 Oct 1953 - Frankie Laine — Hey Joe! 3 Nov 1953 - David Whitfield — Answer Me 10 Nov 1953 - Frankie Laine — Answer Me 5 Jan 1954 - Eddie Calvert — Oh, Mein Papa 9 Mar 1954 - The Stargazers — I See The Moon 13 Apr 1954 - Doris Day — Secret Love 27 Apr 1954 - Johnnie Ray — Such A Night 29 Jun 1954 - David Whitfield with Mantovani & His Orchestra — Cara Mia 7 Sep 1954 - Kitty Kallen — Little Things Mean A Lot 14 Sep 1954 - Frank Sinatra — Three Coins In The Fountain 5 Oct 1954 - Don Cornell — Hold My Hand 2 Nov 1954 - Vera Lynn — My Son, My Son 23 Nov 1954 - Rosemary Clooney — This Ole House 30 Nov 1954 - Winifred Atwell — Let’s Have Another Party 4 Jan 1955 - Dickie Valentine — The Finger Of Suspicion 11 Jan 1955 - Rosemary Clooney & The Mellomen — Mambo Italiano 15 Feb 1955 - Ruby Murray — Softly Softly 8 Mar 1955 - Tennessee Ernie Ford — Give Me Your Word 26 Apr 1955 - Prez Prado & His Orchestra — Cherry Pink And Apple Blossom White 10 May 1955 - Tony Bennett — Stranger In Paradise 24 May 1955 - Eddie Calvert — Cherry Pink And Apple Blossom White 21 Jun 1955 - Jimmy Young — Unchained Melody 12 Jul 1955 - Alma Cogan — Dreamboat 26 Jul 1955 - Slim Whitman — Rose Marie 11 Oct 1955 - Jimmy Young — The Man From Laramie 8 Nov 1955 - Johnston Brothers — Hernando’s Hideaway 22 Nov 1955 - Bill Haley & His Comets — Rock Around The Clock 13 Dec 1955 - Dickie Valentine — Christmas Alphabet 17 Jan 1956 - Tennessee Ernie Ford — Sixteen Tons 14 Feb 1956 - Dean Martin — Memories Are Made Of This 13 Mar 1956 - Dreamwavers — It’s Almost Tomorrow 27 Mar 1956 - Kay Starr — Rock And Roll Waltz 10 Apr 1956 - Winifred Atwell — The Poor People Of Paris 1 May 1956 - Ronnie Hilton — No Other Love 12 Jun 1956 - Pat Boone — I’ll Be Home 17 Jul 1956 - The Teenagers ft. Frankie Lymon — Why Do Fools Fall In Love 7 Aug 1956 - Doris Day — Que Sera Sera 18 Sep 1956 - Anne Shelton — Lay Down Your Arms 16 Oct 1956 - Frankie Laine — A Woman In Love 13 Nov 1956 - Johnnie Ray — Just Walking In The Rain 1 Jan 1957 - Guy Mitchell — Singing The Blues 8 Jan 1957 - Tommy Steele & The Steelmen — Singing The Blues 22 Jan 1957 - Frankie Vaughan — The Garden Of Eden 19 Feb 1957 - Tab Hunter — Young Love 9 Apr 1957 - Lonnie Donegan — Cumberland Gap 14 May 1957 - Guy Mitchell & Jimmy Carroll — Rock-A-Billy 21 May 1957 - Andy Williams — Butterfly 4 Jun 1957 - Johnny Ray — Yes Tonight, Josephine 25 Jun 1957 - Lonnie Donegan — Puttin’ On The Style / Gamblin’ Man 9 Jul 1957 - Elvis Presley — All Shook Up 27 Aug 1957 - Paul Anka — Diana 29 Oct 1957 - The Crickets — That’ll Be The Day 19 Nov 1957 - Harry Belafonte — Mary’s Boy Child 7 Jan 1958 - Jerry Lee Lewis — Great Balls Of Fire 21 Jan 1958 - Elvis Presley — Jailhouse Rock 11 Feb 1958 - Michael Holliday — The Story Of My Life 25 Feb 1958 - Perry Como — Magic Moments 22 Apr 1958 - Marvin Rainwater — Whole Lotta Woman 13 May 1958 - Connie Francis — Who’s Sorry Now 24 Jun 1958 - Vic Damone — On The Street Where You Live 1 Jul 1958 - The Everly Brothers — All I Have To Do Is Dream / Claudette 19 Aug 1958 - Kalin Twins — When 23 Sep 1958 - Connie Francis — Stupid Cupid / Carolina Moon 4 Nov 1958 - Tommy Edwards — It’s All In The Game 25 Nov 1958 - Lord Rockingham’s XI — Hoots Mon 16 Dec 1958 - Conway Twitty — It’s Only Make Believe 20 Jan 1959 - Jane Morgan — The Day The Rains Came 27 Jan 1959 - Elvis Presley — One Night / I Got Stung 17 Feb 1959 - Shirley Bassey — As I Love You 17 Mar 1959 - The Platters — Smoke Gets In Your Eyes 24 Mar 1959 - Russ Conway — Side Saddle 21 Apr 1959 - Buddy Holly — It Doesn’t Matter Anymore 12 May 1959 - Elvis Presley — A Fool Such As I / I Need Your Love Tonight 16 Jun 1959 - Russ Conway — Roulette 30 Jun 1959 - Bobby Darin — Dream Lover 28 Jul 1959 - Cliff Richard — Living Doll 8 Sep 1959 - Craig Douglas — Only Sixteen 6 Oct 1959 - Jerry Keller — Here Comes Summer 13 Oct 1959 - Bobby Darin — Mack The Knife 27 Oct 1959 - Cliff Richard & The Shadows — Travellin’ Light 1 Dec 1959 - Adam Faith — What Do You Want? 15 Dec 1959 - Emile Ford — What Do You Want To Make Those Eyes At Me For? Usually, we go through 5 group stages, but the charts only began in November 1952 so there are actually only 4 groups, beginning with the No.1 hits of 1952/53, followed by a grand final consisting of the 25 songs that have qualified, where we will ultimately decide what the best chart topper of the 1950s is, and the artist(s) can smile down on all the copies of their singles that’ve been gathering dust in charity shops since your nan’s house clearance. The groups are as follows: 1952-53: 15 songs, 4 finalists 1954-55: 25 songs, 7 finalists 1956-57: 25 songs, 7 finalists 1958-59: 29 songs, 7 finalists Should be a piece of piss, this. Anyway, time to dig out the old 12-inches. Let’s Kill or Save! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,196 Posted 10 hours ago First round. Aww, bless it, it's tiny! 1952-53 Sun 18 Aug 24 Perry Como & The Ramblers — Don’t Let The Stars Get In Your Eyes +2 20 Al Martino — Here In My Heart 20 Jo Stafford — You Belong To Me 20 Kay Starr — Comes A-Long A-Love 20 Eddie Fisher — Outside Of Heaven 20 Guy Mitchell — She Wears Red Feathers 20 Lita Roza — How Much Is That Doggie In The Window 20 Frankie Laine — I Believe 20 Eddie Fisher ft. Sally Sweetland — I’m Walking Behind You 20 Mantovani & His Orchestra — The Song From The Moulin Rouge 20 Guy Mitchell — Look At That Girl 20 Frankie Laine — Hey Joe! 20 David Whitfield — Answer Me 20 Frankie Laine — Answer Me 14 The Stargazers — Broken Wings -6 Well, I don't know about you, but I knew a grand total of three of these without the need for YouTube. Take your time to familiarise yourself (and remember we're only doing this for a laugh ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 15,693 Posted 9 hours ago 15 minutes ago, TQR said: Frankie Laine — Hey Joe! That's not ..... .... no, of course not. I'll look at these tomorrow. At first glance I only recognise The Song From Moulin Rouge and How Much Is That Doggie In The Window (woof woof) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
time 8,376 Posted 9 hours ago 27 minutes ago, TQR said: 14 The Stargazers — Broken Wings -6 This is far better than Mr. Mister!* I know 7 of these without recourse to YouTube so that's a few minutes to spend with a cup of coffee in the morning! *j/k, its just as bad. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death Impends 7,735 Posted 9 hours ago 8/17/2024 24 Perry Como & The Ramblers — Don’t Let The Stars Get In Your Eyes 22 Jo Stafford — You Belong To Me +2 22 Kay Starr — Comes A-Long A-Love +2 20 Al Martino — Here In My Heart 20 Guy Mitchell — She Wears Red Feathers 20 Lita Roza — How Much Is That Doggie In The Window 20 Frankie Laine — I Believe 20 Mantovani & His Orchestra — The Song From The Moulin Rouge 20 Guy Mitchell — Look At That Girl 20 Frankie Laine — Hey Joe! 20 David Whitfield — Answer Me 20 Frankie Laine — Answer Me 18 Eddie Fisher — Outside Of Heaven -2 18 Eddie Fisher ft. Sally Sweetland — I’m Walking Behind You -2 12 The Stargazers — Broken Wings -2 I'm one of the few here who reasonably likes late 50s/early 60s and I still think early 50s charts are an arid wasteland. Says it all really. I did like the two I upvoted but not much else; the Como one and a couple of the Laines are okay, that's about it. Though shame there were no No. 1s for Les Paul & Mary Ford! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Commtech Sio Bibble 1,816 Posted 9 hours ago 18/08/2024 24 Perry Como & The Ramblers — Don’t Let The Stars Get In Your Eyes 22 Jo Stafford — You Belong To Me 22 Kay Starr — Comes A-Long A-Love 22 David Whitfield — Answer Me +2 22 Al Martino — Here In My Heart +2 20 Frankie Laine — I Believe 20 Mantovani & His Orchestra — The Song From The Moulin Rouge 20 Guy Mitchell — Look At That Girl 20 Frankie Laine — Hey Joe! 20 Frankie Laine — Answer Me 18 Guy Mitchell — She Wears Red Feathers -2 18 Lita Roza — How Much Is That Doggie In The Window -2 18 Eddie Fisher — Outside Of Heaven 16 Eddie Fisher ft. Sally Sweetland — I’m Walking Behind You -2 12 The Stargazers — Broken Wings I’ve given them all a listen and taken a note on which I do or do not like, the only ones I already knew were How Much Is That Doggie and You Belong To Me (and that’s only because Rick Astley has covered it). From a modern perspective I find it quite odd that two people could go to number 1 with the same song in different weeks, and out of the two versions of ‘Answer Me’ I much preferred Whitfield’s. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clorox Bleachman 2,262 Posted 8 hours ago 18/08/2024 24 Perry Como & The Ramblers — Don’t Let The Stars Get In Your Eyes 24 Frankie Laine — I Believe +4 22 Jo Stafford — You Belong To Me 22 Kay Starr — Comes A-Long A-Love 22 David Whitfield — Answer Me 22 Al Martino — Here In My Heart 20 Mantovani & His Orchestra — The Song From The Moulin Rouge 20 Guy Mitchell — Look At That Girl 20 Frankie Laine — Hey Joe! 20 Frankie Laine — Answer Me 18 Guy Mitchell — She Wears Red Feathers 18 Lita Roza — How Much Is That Doggie In The Window 18 Eddie Fisher — Outside Of Heaven 16 Eddie Fisher ft. Sally Sweetland — I’m Walking Behind You 06 The Stargazers — Broken Wings -6 1 hour ago, Commtech Sio Bibble said: out of the two versions of ‘Answer Me’ I much preferred Whitfield’s I've listened to all 19 of Whitfield's chart hits and wish never to hear another second of his caterwauling, but love that for you. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wannamaker 1,259 Posted 7 hours ago 17/8/24 25 Perry Como & The Ramblers — Don’t Let The Stars Get In Your Eyes +1 24 Al Martino — Here In My Heart +2 24 Frankie Laine — I Believe 22 Kay Starr — Comes A-Long A-Love 22 David Whitfield — Answer Me 21 Mantovani & His Orchestra — The Song From The Moulin Rouge +1 20 Guy Mitchell — Look At That Girl 20 Frankie Laine — Hey Joe! 20 Frankie Laine — Answer Me 18 Guy Mitchell — She Wears Red Feathers 18 Lita Roza — How Much Is That Doggie In The Window 18 Eddie Fisher — Outside Of Heaven 16 Jo Stafford — You Belong To Me -6 16 Eddie Fisher ft. Sally Sweetland — I’m Walking Behind You 06 The Stargazers — Broken Wings Don't hate anything here so it was really hard to downvote something. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theoldlady 2,153 Posted 5 hours ago 18/8/24 28 Frankie Laine — I Believe +4 25 Perry Como & The Ramblers — Don’t Let The Stars Get In Your Eyes 24 Al Martino — Here In My Heart 22 Kay Starr — Comes A-Long A-Love 22 David Whitfield — Answer Me 21 Mantovani & His Orchestra — The Song From The Moulin Rouge 20 Guy Mitchell — Look At That Girl 20 Frankie Laine — Hey Joe! 20 Frankie Laine — Answer Me 18 Guy Mitchell — She Wears Red Feathers 18 Lita Roza — How Much Is That Doggie In The Window 18 Eddie Fisher — Outside Of Heaven 16 Jo Stafford — You Belong To Me 16 Eddie Fisher ft. Sally Sweetland — I’m Walking Behind You 00 The Stargazers — Broken Wings -6 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,196 Posted 2 hours ago I will say, this is probably the weakest round, so if we're all finding at least some things we like, that's encouraging! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Book 3,458 Posted 2 hours ago 18.08.2024 28 Frankie Laine — I Believe 26 Kay Starr — Comes A-Long A-Love +4 25 Perry Como & The Ramblers — Don’t Let The Stars Get In Your Eyes 22 David Whitfield — Answer Me 21 Mantovani & His Orchestra — The Song From The Moulin Rouge 20 Guy Mitchell — Look At That Girl 20 Frankie Laine — Hey Joe! 20 Frankie Laine — Answer Me 18 Guy Mitchell — She Wears Red Feathers 18 Lita Roza — How Much Is That Doggie In The Window 18 Eddie Fisher — Outside Of Heaven 18 Al Martino — Here In My Heart -6 16 Jo Stafford — You Belong To Me 16 Eddie Fisher ft. Sally Sweetland — I’m Walking Behind You Personally I have to be in a special mood to listen to music like that, it's not everyday music to me. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
time 8,376 Posted 53 minutes ago 18-8-24 28 Frankie Laine — I Believe 26 Kay Starr — Comes A-Long A-Love 25 Perry Como & The Ramblers — Don’t Let The Stars Get In Your Eyes 22 David Whitfield — Answer Me 21 Mantovani & His Orchestra — The Song From The Moulin Rouge 22 Guy Mitchell — Look At That Girl +2 22 Frankie Laine — Answer Me +2 20 Frankie Laine — Hey Joe! 18 Guy Mitchell — She Wears Red Feathers 18 Lita Roza — How Much Is That Doggie In The Window 16 Jo Stafford — You Belong To Me 16 Eddie Fisher — Outside Of Heaven -2 16 Al Martino — Here In My Heart -2 14 Eddie Fisher ft. Sally Sweetland — I’m Walking Behind You -2 There are a few here that are bearable, but those that I have downvoted aren't amongst them. There are others that can count themselves lucky I didn't have more votes to use! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites